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[tapedeck]

I hope Ken's model have been revisited

he make The WORST jump from 2D to 3D in SF4 imo, do something with his hair for god sakes, and a better alt costume.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Ken needs to look more mean. Overall theres a few chars that need a major cosmetic overhaul. Blanka also comes to mind. Yeesh.

 

[ShinAmano]

Another thing...hopefully in training mode they will add the ability to hit a button to watch the computer pull off the combo...so frustrating was the trial/training mode for not having this feature.

he make The WORST jump from 2D to 3D in SF4 imo, do something with his hair for god sakes, and a better alt costume.

Yeah his alt was fucking horrible.

 

[Threi]

You miserable pile of secrets.

Have at you!



I hope Cody is hard to play or retard tier. I don't want him to be overpopular like Ken.

I want to play him! Only me!

Cody won't be popular.

Guy, Dudley, and Makoto, and Ibuki have a large chance to be though



*edit*

+1 for ponytail Ken

 

[hikarutilmitt]

I dunno what it used to be - somethin crossup related? her j. lk is pretty great for that

Her j.MK had a nice large hitbox and had great crossup properties because of it. In SFIV they made pretty much ONLY her foot the hitbox and it seems to be incredibly small anyway, making it still okay for a jumping attack for her, but awful compared to her old one. It cannot be used for crossups pretty much at all, now, and her j.LK has to be hit REALLY low to not give them time to recover to block/reversal any followups.

 

[bistromathics]

this is one of the most popular threads on neogaf :O

Her j.MK had a nice large hitbox and had great crossup properties because of it. In SFIV they made pretty much ONLY her foot the hitbox and it seems to be incredibly small anyway, making it still okay for a jumping attack for her, but awful compared to her old one. It cannot be used for crossups pretty much at all, now, and her j.LK has to be hit REALLY low to not give them time to recover to block/reversal any followups.

So hit it low. You want it to be safe anyways
j.mk is all-around useless

 

[Mr Jared]

Not a fan of any of these rumors, to be honest. Ultras were already way un-balanced amongst the cast as is, and now there's possibly two Ultras per character? Without some sort of Super Art or selection system for this, I'm afraid.

Also, Alpha characters are unbearably lame. It's bad enough that the console version got nothing but these rejects, but now they want to throw in more? It's nice to see some 3S characters in there, but I think they could have done better in that regard (Ibuki is the weak link).

Speaking as a huge Zangief fan, he doesn't need an air-throw and an air-activated, most-likely-to-be-instant-Ultra-air-throw sounds like a nightmare for everyone.

I was a big nay-sayer of SF4 before I got my hands beta versions and it all turned out great.. which is why I get very concerned when I hear things like the new version "plays nothing like SF4."

Here's hoping they're just rumors

 

[h3ro]

Cody won't be popular.

Guy, Dudley, and Makoto, and Ibuki have a large chance to be though



*edit*

+1 for ponytail Ken

I could see the large East Coast 'Rog population giving Dudley a go...

I need something Capcom... a screenshot, character art, whatever, just something!

 

[Steaks]

I could see the large East Coast 'Rog population giving Dudley a go...

I need something Capcom... a screenshot, character art, whatever, just something!

Good things come to those who wait, my friend.

 

[LeMaximilian]

Had a sudden flashback...

I was at Comic Con back in 08 just to play SF4. At the time I spoke with Seth and Kramez about the game before it was out. I questioned Kramez regarding the possibility of updates, balancing, more characters and DLC for the game. I can't recall his quote exactly, but he said depending on it's success, 'we have a very large road-map for Street Fighter 4'. Based on the information at hand right now, it looks like he was telling the truth.

 

[Steaks]

Also to anyone in the NYC area, see you guys at Chinatown Fair in a few months :lol

 

[bistromathics]

I was a big nay-sayer of SF4 before I got my hands beta versions and it all turned out great.. which is why I get very concerned when I hear things like the new version "plays nothing like SF4."

I seen that quoted a few times now in this thread. Who said that?

 

[black_vegeta]

Also to anyone in the NYC area, see you guys at Chinatown Fair in a few months :lol

Which means the arcade version will be out in a few months???

 

[Steaks]

I seen that quoted a few times now in this thread. Who said that?

It's rumored haunts said it, but I'm pretty sure it was made up when I released the roster...

 

[h3ro]

Also to anyone in the NYC area, see you guys at Chinatown Fair in a few months :lol

I'm in Queens, I've never heard of this fair, what is it?

 

[Steaks]

I'm in Queens, I've never heard of this fair, what is it?

Arcade in Manhattan, 8 Mott Street.

 

[bistromathics]

It's rumored haunts said it, but I'm pretty sure it was made up when I released the roster...

when you 'released the roster'? huh?

 

[bob_arctor]

Also to anyone in the NYC area, see you guys at Chinatown Fair in a few months :lol

haha just said the same thing a minute ago to my friend. Crowds gonna be nuts.

 

[haunts]

Why do people always associate me with SSFIV rumors? :lol

I cant go into #capcom these days w/o getting private messages each time. lol

 

[h3ro]

Arcade in Manhattan, 8 Mott Street.

Oh, awesome!

I'm definitely not good enough to be going into an arcade and playing with regulars, I'm happy being king of the scrubs with my cousins/friends in our weekend get-togethers.

 

[Ledsen]

These rumors are getting me all hot and bothered. But I hope they don't tweak the gameplay too far from what SFIV is now. I don't like the idea of air blocking or parries at all. Hope the official news/trailer drops soon.

People have to stop talking about this... the leaks don't mention air blocking or parries at all, it's just hopes and dreams from random GAF:ers ... if this doesn't stop we'll have a GAF -> internet -> GAF :lol

 

[Steaks]

Why do people always associate me with SSFIV rumors? :lol

I cant go into #capcom these days w/o getting private messages each time. lol

Better watch out, last time I got a private message when I was in #capcom, I got banned shortly after

Oh, awesome!

I'm definitely not good enough to be going into an arcade and playing with regulars, I'm happy being king of the scrubs with my cousins/friends in our weekend get-togethers.

Man don't sweat it, besides, you should go to at least see the game with your own eyes on those nice ass HD monitors. People are generally pretty friendly and willing to teach you stuff too, especially most of the good players otherwise the scene would die again.

 

[LeMaximilian]

Why do people always associate me with SSFIV rumors? :lol

I cant go into #capcom these days w/o getting private messages each time. lol

I heard Haunts say it. Arial Raves in SSF4 confirmed. :lol jk

 

[GrayFoxPL]

I hope "it doesn't play anything like SFIV" means that guard doesn't change the characters into untouchable fortress like in SFIV. Seriously the game is overly defensive now. I hope the air hits are also more "argumented".

 

[n3ss]

Not a fan of any of these rumors, to be honest. Ultras were already way un-balanced amongst the cast as is, and now there's possibly two Ultras per character? Without some sort of Super Art or selection system for this, I'm afraid.

Also, Alpha characters are unbearably lame. It's bad enough that the console version got nothing but these rejects, but now they want to throw in more? It's nice to see some 3S characters in there, but I think they could have done better in that regard (Ibuki is the weak link).

Speaking as a huge Zangief fan, he doesn't need an air-throw and an air-activated, most-likely-to-be-instant-Ultra-air-throw sounds like a nightmare for everyone.

I was a big nay-sayer of SF4 before I got my hands beta versions and it all turned out great.. which is why I get very concerned when I hear things like the new version "plays nothing like SF4."

Here's hoping they're just rumors

You have no idea :X

 

[haunts]

I'll admit, I thought about dropping the TVC new characters bomb like 6 months ago..

 

[Totakeke]

I hope "it doesn't play anything like SFIV" means that guard doesn't change the characters into untouchable fortress like in SFIV. Seriously the game is overly defensive now. I hope the air hits are also more "argumented".

If anything, two ultras would only mean a better defensive play is needed.


Not that it automatically translates to turtling mind you.

 

[tapedeck]

Originally Posted by Johnny5Optimus View Post
ahem, lemme just add to this thread

All rumoured returners from ST(DJ,Hawk), Alpha(Final Fighters, Adon) and 3S(Dud, Mak, Ibu) are true.

Everyone has 2 Ultras.

Hakan - arabic grappler obsessed with oil.
Juri - evil asian girl fighter working for Seth.

some ppl have played this updated version and one was quoted as saying "It doesn't play anything like IV currently does."

Announcement should be made at TGS and the Japanese SF4 blog later this week.

Also, they're calling it SSF4.

believe me or not, but mark this post for tomorrow/late tonight.

annndddd im out.

Thats where it came from. Just one kids interpretation, and no real explanation , but thats where it started.

 

[bistromathics]

You have no idea :X

now you're just being a dick

Thats where it came from. Just one kids interpretation, and no real explanation , but thats where it started.

what forum was that on? srk?

 

[viewtiful_dru]

Also to anyone in the NYC area, see you guys at Chinatown Fair in a few months :lol

I'll be there day one like I was for the original release of SF4. What a day that was.

 

[LeMaximilian]

SF4 could really benefit from a CVS2 style guard break. Could change the pace of a battle dramatically.

 

[Fersis]

Not a fan of any of these rumors, to be honest. Ultras were already way un-balanced amongst the cast as is, and now there's possibly two Ultras per character? Without some sort of Super Art or selection system for this, I'm afraid.

Also, Alpha characters are unbearably lame. It's bad enough that the console version got nothing but these rejects, but now they want to throw in more? It's nice to see some 3S characters in there, but I think they could have done better in that regard (Ibuki is the weak link).

Speaking as a huge Zangief fan, he doesn't need an air-throw and an air-activated, most-likely-to-be-instant-Ultra-air-throw sounds like a nightmare for everyone.

I was a big nay-sayer of SF4 before I got my hands beta versions and it all turned out great.. which is why I get very concerned when I hear things like the new version "plays nothing like SF4."

Here's hoping they're just rumors

Many many many players want some Alpha characters, i like the new roster. (If true)

Are you still working in HOME ?

 

[Raging Spaniard]

this is one of the most popular threads on neogaf :O

Thanks

Its pretty awesome to see the cycle of complaining happen. When the game came out a sizable group of people bitched that it wasnt anything like a SF game (I disagree) and now that a new version/update/game is rumored to play differently, people are bitching again.

Bitching is good though, show that you care. Personally Id rather have more new characters, but eh, I like most of the names Im hearing.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I'll admit, I thought about dropping the TVC new characters bomb like 6 months ago..

We should make a new SF IV thread or update this one!

 

[tapedeck]

what forum was that on? srk?

http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2234041&page=11

 

[arstal]

Not a fan of any of these rumors, to be honest. Ultras were already way un-balanced amongst the cast as is, and now there's possibly two Ultras per character? Without some sort of Super Art or selection system for this, I'm afraid.

Also, Alpha characters are unbearably lame. It's bad enough that the console version got nothing but these rejects, but now they want to throw in more? It's nice to see some 3S characters in there, but I think they could have done better in that regard (Ibuki is the weak link).

Speaking as a huge Zangief fan, he doesn't need an air-throw and an air-activated, most-likely-to-be-instant-Ultra-air-throw sounds like a nightmare for everyone.

I was a big nay-sayer of SF4 before I got my hands beta versions and it all turned out great.. which is why I get very concerned when I hear things like the new version "plays nothing like SF4."

Here's hoping they're just rumors

2 Ultras increases the odds of someone having a good one. I think it will be the reverse of what you expect. 90% of the time people will just use one.

As for the Alphas- I prefer the SFA2 cast to the ST cast. I would have killed for Birdie in this.

Worst case, if this ends up mess, go back to SF4, or even STHD.

 

[hitsugi]

SF4 could really benefit from a CVS2 style guard break. Could change the pace of a battle dramatically.

I've been thinking of this since.. well, pre-SF4 release. Hopefully it gets added... yes - exactly as it was in cvs2.

 

[haunts]

SF4 could really benefit from a CVS2 style guard break. Could change the pace of a battle dramatically.

I would be a god in this game if there was guard break... you know its true! lol

 

[Steaks]

I would be a god in this game if there was guard break... you know its true! lol

Safe Tiger Knee strings become even better!

 

[TimeKillr]

http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2234041&page=11

I will re-iterate:

This kid only took what was posted on another forum, added smilies and claimed as his own.

He's not the original source. But the source he took the info from is legitimate (it's mine, in fact :lol )

 

[bistromathics]

Worst case, if this ends up mess, go back to SF4, or even STHD.

I don't wanna be one of those guys though
Smash Bros Melee was the only 'fighter' I got serious about prior to sf4, and I hated the changes in brawl. But 90% of the community moved to brawl. Fortunately that freed up a gaming genre slot for SF4, so it all worked out in the end

 

[AZ Greg]

Wow, this thread blew up in just a few hours. :lol

Here's hoping the rumors are true. Of course, if the changes are as drastic as they are said to be then there is some concern that everything will work to make a good game. What I do like about this approach is that it won't make vanilla SF4 obsolete like a small revision would have.

 

[tapedeck]

I will re-iterate:

This kid only took what was posted on another forum, added smilies and claimed as his own.

He's not the original source. But the source he took the info from is legitimate (it's mine, in fact :lol )

Yeah I think everyone pretty much knows your the source. I was just regurgitating the info that was in this thread, thats funny that kid claimed it as his own, lulz. So when we gettin a trailer??

 

[BitchTits]

At the risk of this getting lost in the SF4 Dash hype I have a Q for Rose players:

What's the best way to combo her Super? I often go for j.MK, cr.HP, fireball, super (sometimes misses the fireball and just Super from the cr.HP). The only problem is often opponents counter before the Super comes out (after the cr.HP basically). I don't know if this is to do with my timing, or just what I'm doing in general, would MP be better to use instead of HP?

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

what? what?

man what happened, everyone is going off about something.

lol i was about to say, bistro would disagree.

 

[ghst]

so what is the bidding on:

2 either/or selectable super art ultras.
each character having a kick and punch ultra.
separate ultras for different grades of the ultra meter.

 

[TimeKillr]

Yeah I think everyone pretty much knows your the source. I was just regurgitating the info that was in this thread, thats funny that kid claimed it as his own, lulz. So when we gettin a trailer??

Actually, it isn't me.

I wish it was me, since I could give out, you know, better information, but everything I have is told to me from someone else.

He reads gaf, though, and that's why I edited my old post - he told me I had incorrect info in there.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I hope Ken's model have been revisited

he make The WORST jump from 2D to 3D in SF4 imo, do something with his hair for god sakes, and a better alt costume.

yeah a lot of SFIV characters have a bizarre cromagnon thing going

 

[hikarutilmitt]

At the risk of this getting lost in the SF4 Dash hype I have a Q for Rose players:

What's the best way to combo her Super? I often go for j.MK, cr.HP, fireball, super (sometimes misses the fireball and just Super from the cr.HP). The only problem is often opponents counter before the Super comes out (after the cr.HP basically). I don't know if this is to do with my timing, or just what I'm doing in general, would MP be better to use instead of HP?

Go for her forward moving drill type move and cancel out of that. Keeps you close for the super and isn't as hard to time properly. I'm not sure the fireball is reliable for most combos and distances, the "drill" goes right to them and gives you a closer range and more hits to cancel from.

 

[Dascu]

At the risk of this getting lost in the SF4 Dash hype I have a Q for Rose players:

What's the best way to combo her Super? I often go for j.MK, cr.HP, fireball, super (sometimes misses the fireball and just Super from the cr.HP). The only problem is often opponents counter before the Super comes out (after the cr.HP basically). I don't know if this is to do with my timing, or just what I'm doing in general, would MP be better to use instead of HP?

Yeah, try using a different normal. Also, some fireballs travel faster/slower depending on which punch button you use. Make sure you're using the HP variant (which I think is the fastest).

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Wow, this thread blew up in just a few hours. :lol

Here's hoping the rumors are true. Of course, if the changes are as drastic as they are said to be then there is some concern that everything will work to make a good game. What I do like about this approach is that it won't make vanilla SF4 obsolete like a small revision would have.

I'm afraid we're taking the rumors bit too far. By morning we'll have locked that SFIV has a side-scrolling beat'em up mode and that all character are actually SD versions and fight in go-karts. Plus consoles get exclusive characters from Lord of the Rings.
We must slow down...

By the way, you speaketh rightful things. I'd rather have SSF4 and SF4 to be so different so they can coexist.