The Oily, Gentlemanly Super Spin Fighter 4 Reveal Thread of Kunoichis and Karatekas

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DarkoMaledictus said:
Hey not dissing sf4 or nothing love the art, just some characters are feel a bit off... but thats always going to be the case with nostalgia! Its better than 99% of stuff out there and 90% of the characters are perfect! Just nitpicking ;)!
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See I can totally understand this, if you look too into the muscles or armpits or elbows, it becomes less flattering, but still I appreciate the execution very well. I would say Chun-Li, Sakura and Vega look the most "off" to me but it seems great overall.

And did they ever explain why Bison is missing the cape? That should've been added for Super.
 
enzo_gt said:
See I can totally understand this, if you look too into the muscles or armpits or elbows, it becomes less flattering, but still I appreciate the execution very well. I would say Chun-Li, Sakura and Vega look the most "off" to me but it seems great overall.

And did they ever explain why Bison is missing the cape? That should've been added for Super.
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I'm guessing its either engine limitations, or they had problems making it look realistic... Also one thing that I absolutly love about the art is the style they went for a cartoon look. Not going the realictic route was pure genius. Works perfect and the style wont age like most realistic fighters! Looking at you tekken ;)!

Also, as was mentioned below in sf2 Bison removes his cape before the fight... guess they thought it would make their life easier to just remove it ;)!
 
dralla said:
read this about cody on srk

"Ex Ruffian goes through fireballs, but NOT on startup"

damn son, that sucks. so basically he has no way to get through fireballs on reaction? i know CU and stone stop them. does ex stone go through it?
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nope, dosent suck, sick move actually. just means you cant do the move right when the FB is in your grill. it boils down to this: ez zonk good for close range FB evasion, while you use EX ruffian mid range or so.
 
Hitokage said:
Yeah, looking at Sagat's frame data, he doesn't have a lot that's both hard hitting and special cancelable. I'm also working on the assumption that Angry Scar is instantaneous given the super freeze, which would leave you with like 10-20 frames of hitstun. If you were close, UC1 might work.

Edit: Unless Angry Scar is considered a super for canceling purposes.
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A lot of it depends on wether or not angry scar is special cancelable or you simply "link" it between hits. like, c.mp, opponent stuck in hit stun, angry scar, c.lp into upprcut before they recover. If angry scar is special cancelable then that open up a lot of possibilities but i dont think that is how it works. i could be wrong tho. i think they made it so you can only link it just due to what you're talking about.
 
haunts said:
A lot of it depends on wether or not angry scar is special cancelable or you simply "link" it between hits. like, c.mp, opponent stuck in hit stun, angry scar, c.lp into upprcut before they recover. If angry scar is special cancelable then that open up a lot of possibilities but i dont think that is how it works. i could be wrong tho. i think they made it so you can only link it just due to what you're talking about.
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That youtube video makes it look awfully like a cancel. Angry scar comes out while the last attack's hit spark is still onscreen.
 
Hitokage said:
That youtube video makes it look awfully like a cancel. Angry scar comes out while the last attack's hit spark is still onscreen.
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yeah you dont really see the c.mp retracting either, it just kind of disappears, but i am just not 100% either way. I just wonder because if it is a cancel it could lead to some really weird shit tbh. lol
 
After watching it a few more times and knowing that it's a move that recovers in 10 frames anyway, I'm not as sure either. Can't wait to actually have the game to test this kind of stuff though!

I'm totally going straight for training mode when I get it.
 
Anyone know the exact time that tournament stick deal ends on gameshark.com? My friend gets paid tomorrow but the deal says it goes to April 5th, so could he order it tomorrow?
 
_dementia said:
Gouken, Bison, Gen and Rose are zombies
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Yknow, I remember talking to a friend of mine when SF4 came out, that man, Akuma sucks. Like, the roster completely steals all his thunder. He used to be this bad bad man killing off all these sweet characters, but now?

1. Gouken: The original guy he was supposed to kill, just took a nap for 15 years instead. Good job Akuma.

2. Gen: Failed to kill a 90 year old man with cancer.

3. Bison: I'm not even sure what's going on here, I guess he melted Bison a little, maybe?

4. Seth (the comics): Turns out his moves can't kill robots. Oh well.

I mean really, jesus. The only person he's managed to kill has never even been shown on screen.
 
haunts said:
A lot of it depends on wether or not angry scar is special cancelable or you simply "link" it between hits. like, c.mp, opponent stuck in hit stun, angry scar, c.lp into upprcut before they recover. If angry scar is special cancelable then that open up a lot of possibilities but i dont think that is how it works. i could be wrong tho. i think they made it so you can only link it just due to what you're talking about.
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unless something has changed and you can now link c.lp from c.mk, then I think you can special cancel to AS to some degree. I've seen c.mk to Angry Scar to c.lp to TU.

edit: yeah, AS totally cancels the recovery frames of c.mk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo89tX2Gt3E
 
I had a dream that the final version was leaked, and people found in the games code extra characters that we didn't know about.

I wish the game was out...
 
Ronabo said:
I had a dream that the final version was leaked, and people found in the games code extra characters that we didn't know about.

I wish the game was out...
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Extra characters? Naw. The only thing possibly at this point is the way Nakky was being coy is maybe Shin Akumas a secret boss or somethin.
 
BitchTits said:
Shoto players must be kept happy at all costs.
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I really think it's a tie between SF and Tekken for series that deliberately overpower their main characters.

KOF used to, but stopped after 98.

Holy Order Sol said:
I don't mind chara-design, heavy execution requirements or unusual fighting style are what turns me off regardless of efficiency. C.Viper could be Igniz-tier and I wouldn't touch her if she played the way she currently does. I also kinda dislike fast characters but this I can get over.
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I think this is a legit criticism of the game. Not so much the unusual styles, as those are good, but it feels like they went outta their way in this series to make controls clunky and inefficient. Yet, they made the strategy required to play the game a lot easier.

I don't mind heavy execution when it adds to a game. It doesn't really add to SF4, except in a few cases (things like the angry scar combo are fine)
 
Pop On Arrival said:
unless something has changed and you can now link c.lp from c.mk, then I think you can special cancel to AS to some degree. I've seen c.mk to Angry Scar to c.lp to TU.

edit: yeah, AS totally cancels the recovery frames of c.mk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo89tX2Gt3E
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yeah i was thinking the same thing, i doubt they changed the + hit frames on c.mk. ill say the combo feels really werid tho just due to the pause and having to time the link after the recovery of the angry scar.
 
So what's left in terms of stuff to reveal? Embargo is over, and basically all we're waiting on is a screen/video of colour 11? I assume they'd keep this for a launch trailer or something, but really, what's left to show?
 
enzo_gt said:
So what's left in terms of stuff to reveal? Embargo is over, and basically all we're waiting on is a screen/video of colour 11? I assume they'd keep this for a launch trailer or something, but really, what's left to show?
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There's also colour 12 apparently. I think one of the tipsters on SRK said colour 11 and 12 were filters, and then Henaki said "you'll find out what colour 11 and 12 are soon, and how to unlock them." Then on Shiozawa's blog, she confirmed that an SF4 save gives you an 11th colour. Exciting stuff.

That's all they can really "announce" besides a PC version (also been rumoured). Everyone's probably keen to figure out how to play the game at this point, rather than waiting for more announcements.
 
_dementia said:
Ends monday night
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Thanks for the info. I'll try to tell him to cash his check ASAP to get one if he can. After being at my house a couple times and letting him play with my TE and Hori he refuses to go back to pad anymore. :lol
 
So I'm thinking of getting Super Street Fighter 4 to play with my buddies, but I hate the 360 d-pad. I don't wanna pay for a stick, so whats the best third party controller with a D-pad for this game?
 
Shalashaska161 said:
So I'm thinking of getting Super Street Fighter 4 to play with my buddies, but I hate the 360 d-pad. I don't wanna pay for a stick, so whats the best third party controller with a D-pad for this game?
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Right now there is a deal running at gameshark.com's store with a sale on all sticks and madcatz fight pads. Type in the code WARZONE at checkout to receive 30% off any round 1 or round 2 items. It will make any fight pad that's round 1 or 2 28 bucks. It makes TE sticks 105 bucks instead 150. Now's your best chance to get a great deal. :)
 
zlatko said:
Right now there is a deal running at gameshark.com's store with a sale on all sticks and madcatz fight pads. Type in the code WARZONE at checkout to receive 30% off any round 1 or round 2 items. It will make any fight pad that's round 1 or 2 28 bucks. It makes TE sticks 105 bucks instead 150. Now's your best chance to get a great deal. :)
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Is there an actual difference between round 1 and 2?
 
Shalashaska161 said:
So I'm thinking of getting Super Street Fighter 4 to play with my buddies, but I hate the 360 d-pad. I don't wanna pay for a stick, so whats the best third party controller with a D-pad for this game?
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and if you don't feel like getting a TE - you could get an hrap ex for $60-70 on ebay and swap the buttons if you feel the need whenever. OR get an ex 2 for as little as $30.
 
FlightOfHeaven said:
Makoto looked like a guy in SF3
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dragonballjoseph said:
I thought she was a guy until I heard her voice in the SSF4 trailer...
>_>
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Mission accomplished by Capcom.That was what their goal was with the character design.A lot of people who played Third Strike without really looking into the story had no idea it was a she either until. . .
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Papercuts said:
Is there an actual difference between round 1 and 2?
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They stopped making the R1 TE sticks; so they're limited editions for real this time.

As for technical specifications, AFAIK they're the same thing just different art and colors, R2 TE with the entire black case and black/grey themed art. It's really nice if you decide to modify it later and personalize the stick for yourself.
 
_dementia said:
round 2 looks better
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One other difference: locking takes out the start button so you can't accidentally pause, but doesn't take out the PSN/XBL button. It's a nice feature (and you don't want to pause in a tourney- that's an auto loss)
 
arstal said:
One other difference: locking takes out the start button so you can't accidentally pause, but doesn't take out the PSN/XBL button. It's a nice feature (and you don't want to pause in a tourney- that's an auto loss)
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Nah, you're thinking of the new TE "S"
Round 2 are the same as Round 1, except for visuals
 
i always see traces of ryu in her face (makoto), same with sakura and even chun li, it's pissing me off. it's like the artist used him as a base for female designs.

not a fan of makotos large forehead either. yea, so much bitching :)
 
arstal said:
One other difference: locking takes out the start button so you can't accidentally pause, but doesn't take out the PSN/XBL button. It's a nice feature (and you don't want to pause in a tourney- that's an auto loss)
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Locking prevents use of the PS Home and Xbox Guide button.

On the TE "S", it does this and ALSO the lock on start/select &back
 
MarkMan said:
Locking prevents use of the PS Home and Xbox Guide button.

On the TE "S", it does this and ALSO the lock on start/select &back
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That would be very useful for tournies. As someone who has gotten DQed due to that once, and seen it happen to others- it sucks when it happens.
 
arstal said:
I think this is a legit criticism of the game. Not so much the unusual styles, as those are good, but it feels like they went outta their way in this series to make controls clunky and inefficient. Yet, they made the strategy required to play the game a lot easier.

I don't mind heavy execution when it adds to a game. It doesn't really add to SF4, except in a few cases (things like the angry scar combo are fine)
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No, it's not the game. I'm REALLY lacking in the execution department.
 
CPS2 said:
There's also colour 12 apparently. I think one of the tipsters on SRK said colour 11 and 12 were filters, and then Henaki said "you'll find out what colour 11 and 12 are soon, and how to unlock them." Then on Shiozawa's blog, she confirmed that an SF4 save gives you an 11th colour. Exciting stuff.

That's all they can really "announce" besides a PC version (also been rumoured). Everyone's probably keen to figure out how to play the game at this point, rather than waiting for more announcements.
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So...there is a place I can see the other 10 colors? For all the costumes? Where?
 
FlightOfHeaven said:
Makoto looked like a guy in SF3
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Yes, because morons can't tell a female character in a game unless she's constantly slapping you in the face with her beef drapes.

Makoto is a fine example of little girl in fighting game done right. Rarity indeed, but at the very least she doesn't overtly appeal to Japans, and by association Americas, pedophile crowd.

In conclusion:

- Juri needs to go back to Tekken
- Sakura needs to go back to Arcana Heart (Don't care about the chronology, she belongs there now with all the other annoying little girls)
 
Wait, people thought Makoto was a guy? These the same people who thought Ash Crimson was a girl? Oi vey GAF.

Where do Legs (Chun), Ass (Cammy), School Girl Ninja and Boobs (Rose) go back to TToB?
 
_dementia said:
must
restrain
myself
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Seriously this shit tempting! I already have my PS2 stick that I can use on 360 and Wii/GC, but I want that SE for 360 (or maybe PS3 so I won't have to buy yet another converter)! That price is gold!
 
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