The Order: 1886 Delayed Into 2015. [Stop talking about MS lineup]

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I have no issue with them announcing it, but don't give a release date. I don't get why they feel the need to do it all. Just show the game say it's in development and then when the game is a point where you can confidently give a release date, do it then. No need to announced a release window 18 months in advance.

If they did that for every big game then why would anybody buy a console? What we've seen with recent console launches is first parties telling bald-faced lies about their software slate to sucker people into buying a machine early.
 
I'd be reluctant to jump to too many conclusions on that front until after E3. It's *possible* that that's all they have right now, true, but we're also at the stage of the year where there's a bunch of secrets lined up to be revealed, so it's possible they've got something up their sleeve, too.

Dude, with all due respect, Sony isn't giving us any reason to believe that there is a plethora or content (or any content for that matter) left to be unveiled for this year. OH and recent developments don't exactly bolster confidence of this either.
 
If they did that for every big game then why would anybody buy a console? What we've seen with recent console launches is first parties telling bald-faced lies about their software slate to sucker people into buying a machine early.
Agreed
 
This makes me happy. It gives me more time to play the massive amount of amazing looking games coming out this Fall, and it will be a better game in the end. I prefer having first party games launch during the months of the year when third parties aren't really releasing anything, as it makes for a more well rounded year. Also, I am failing to see why a three or four month delay is such a big deal. Who cares if Sony doesn't have any huge first party exclusives this Fall anyway? The game would just get overshadowed by all of the huge well established franchises. People are weird.
 
Sunset, D4 and an HD halo is nothing serious for sony. all those combined will move less systems than the most hyped game in recent memory, titan fall. Third parties will be the one moving systems. Which one has the better verisons? Ps4. Which console will they mostly be advertised for? Ps4. Which conlsoe will have the most midshare? Ps4. Ps4 Which console will dominate on a global scale this holiday? Ps4.

So you're saying Sony are quaking in their boots after seeing Sunset and did the only thing they could do and delayed 1886 so it doesn't get outclassed by the far superior Sunset and are instead pinning their hopes on third party titles to save them?
 
as games become way more expensive to create I really think exclusives are becoming less and less important. few devs can afford to take the risk

the only real advantage to be had by each platform is performance and the ecosystem

crazy prediction though: how nuts would it be if they announce The Last Guardian for 2014 for PS4?
 
I'd be reluctant to jump to too many conclusions on that front until after E3. It's *possible* that that's all they have right now, true, but we're also at the stage of the year where there's a bunch of secrets lined up to be revealed, so it's possible they've got something up their sleeve, too.

When was the last time Sony announced a major exclusive on such short notice? I don't expect a major unnanounced AAA PS4 exclusive for this year. Sony fucked up with their release schedule.

2012 was an empty hole as well for the PS3, it had PSASBR as it's big fall game, then 2013 saw too many PS3 releases, it had a game from a major 1st party studio each month prior to PS4 launched+GT6 after the launch, and 2014 is back at being empty again.
 
I'm fairly ok with the delay even though I wanted the game asap.


Now please five us the ability to have play it with 1080p 2xMSAA
 
Dude, with all due respect, Sony isn't giving us any reason to believe that there is a plethora or content (or any content for that matter) left to be unveiled for this year. OH and recent developments don't exactly bolster confidence of this either.

They did have this in the press release last year IIRC:
SCE World Wide Studios (SCE WWS) is currently developing more than 30 PS4 exclusive titles, 20 of them, including 12 new IPs, are planned to release within a year of the launch of the PS4 system. This demonstrates PlayStation’s focus on delivering original, creative content to gamers that will define next-generation gaming experiences. SCE WWS President Shuhei Yoshida provided an update on PS4 exclusive titles, #DRIVECLUB™, Killzone™ Shadow Fall, KNACK™, which will be available at launch, and inFAMOUS Second Son™, available first quarter 2014. He also unveiled SCEA’s next blockbuster title, The Order: 1886™, from acclaimed studio Ready at Dawn.

And then there is this PS Blog entry that is updated regularly... I think?:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/03/26/ps4-games-in-2014-the-ultimate-list/
 
How about competently developing a title and getting out polished and refined on time?

Believe it or not, this can be done.

To make such a claim, I can assume you are in the game industry and have shipped a title? A lot of armchair analysts trying to explain something they have only a minimal understanding about.
 
When was the last time Sony announced a major exclusive on such short notice? I don't expect a major unnanounced AAA PS4 exclusive for this year. Sony fucked up with their release schedule.

2012 was an empty hole as well for the PS3, it had PSASBR as it's big fall game, then 2013 saw too many PS3 releases, it had a game from a major 1st party studio each month prior to PS4 launched+GT6 after the launch, and 2014 is back at being empty again.

GT6.
 
I guess they'll now try to tout TLOU Remaster as their big game for the year? What a joke.
You mean how Microsoft will try to do the same thing with their Halo collection?

Microsoft has Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo collection and will rely on third party games like CoD and Battlfield.
Sony has DriveClub and The Last of Us and will lean on indies and third party games like Destiny and Assassins Creed.

And they both have a potentially stellar 2015 lineup.
I don't see the problem here.
 
Ain't even committing to early 2015, damn. Sounds like we shouldn't be surprised to see it delayed to Summer or Fall 2015.
 
You have nothing on else on your list? There are plenty of other games coming out this Fall.

Besides, would you really rather have it rushed?

Destiny, that's about it.
No I would have rather they increased the "man" power and got it done on time.
 
Looking back on it, outside of that poster and those vague tweets, did they ever announce Q4 2014 officially? This announcement of the early 2015 release on the PlayStation Blog is the first time they've actually mentioned a date so far.
 
How about competently developing a title and getting out polished and refined on time?

Believe it or not, this can be done.
What exactly is "on time"? If they had not projected a release timeframe of Fall would you have still had said they weren't being competent by not getting it out in the busiest shopping season?
 
Dude, with all due respect, Sony isn't giving us any reason to believe that there is a plethora or content (or any content for that matter) left to be unveiled for this year. OH and recent developments don't exactly bolster confidence of this either.

When was the last time Sony announced a major exclusive on such short notice? I don't expect a major unnanounced AAA PS4 exclusive for this year. Sony fucked up with their release schedule.

I agree... but that's still not something I'm willing to assume to be the case. I'm happy to hedge my bets before I grab my flaming torch and pitchfork.
 

Wait... really? People are complaining about a vague release date being pushed back, to another vague release date?

Did they even commit to a more specific window? Like... I dunno... Fall 2014 or Winter 2014? If they didn't even have the faith to be a little more specific, it really shouldn't be any surprise that there's delays.
 
Delays happen and there are still tons of games to play. Not a huge deal when you have to wait a bit longer.
 
You mean how Microsoft will try to do the same thing with their Halo collection?

Microsoft has Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo collection and will rely on third party games like CoD and Battlfield.
Sony has DriveClub and The Last of Us and will lean on indies and third party games like Destiny and Assassins Creed.

And they both have a potentially stellar 2015 lineup.
I don't see the problem here.

The problem being that Sony's retail game output is usually much better than Microsoft, and this fall MS will actually beat them if there are no further announcements. If you leave out the re-releases, and Horizon 2 is for real, Xbone has 2 new games, PS4 has 1 (delayed launch) game coming up.
 
What exactly is "on time"? If they had not projected a release timeframe of Fall would you have still had said they weren't being competent by not getting it out in the busiest shopping season?

Look let me be clear about this.

I'm not even talking so much about Ready At Dawn here, as I am Sony.

Sony has an obligation to its customers, who purchased their product to deliver regular content for it.

Sony up till now has clearly reneged in this promise. Sony should have planned out PS4's release schedule and better managed its games development to ensure that in the event of a unexpected delay, they were prepared for that contingency.

Clearly, their designs (if there ever even were any) have floundered.

They planned this title as a 2014 release. They should've known realistically if it was going to make it and if there was a strong chance that it wasn't, had something as a substitute for it.
 
Dude, that stuff is from last year's E3.

I think it is fairly obvious none of that is actually going to be accomplished, sadly.

That was kind of why I mentioned it to begin with. We didn't hear much (if anything) about those titles since then... but why wouldn't they be able to pull out those games at E3 this year?
 
Good, more time to work on games and make them as best as they can be is always great news. If only more publishers thought this way we wouldn't be in a sea of day one patches and completely broken online experiences that users wait months to be repaired.

Take the time you need, we have generations upon generations of games to catch up on.
 
The problem being that Sony's retail game output is usually much better than Microsoft, and this fall MS will actually beat them if there are no further announcements. If you leave out the re-releases, and Horizon 2 is for real, Xbone has 2 new games, PS4 has 1 (delayed launch) game coming up.

Why do you keep ignoring third party games?
 
Look let me be clear about this.

I'm not even talking so much about Ready At Dawn here, as I am Sony.

Sony has an obligation to its customers, who purchased their product to deliver regular content for it.

Sony up till now has clearly reneged in this promise. Sony should have planned out PS4's release schedule and better managed its games development to ensure that in the event of a unexpected delay, they were prepared for that contingency.

Clearly, their designs (if there ever even were any) have floundered.

They planned this title as a 2014 release. They should've known realistically if it was going to make it and if there was a strong chance that it wasn't, had something as a substitute for it.

Wow. Chill. E3 is in two weeks.
 
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