The Order: 1886 Delayed Into 2015. [Stop talking about MS lineup]

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Infamous: Second Son was planned as a launch game (Nov. 2013) and got delayed to Mar. 2014.

Proof: Destructroid Interview with Chris Zimmerman from Sucker Punch. In the video Chris confirms that the game was delayed from Launch as originally planned.

http://www.twitch.tv/destructoid/c/3840957

The delay turned out to have been worthwhile. I really enjoyed Infamous: SS, easily the best next-gen game I've played so far.

Hopefully the delay for The Order: 1886 turns out equally well.

Well, that was a potential plan but they ended up not going for that because they needed more time. Does it really count if they never actually announced the release date for the game?

inFAMOUS… when we first started we thought of it as a launch game, not a launch window game, and the reason it’s a launch game coming out now and not in November was that we weren’t ready. It wasn’t gonna be as great as it needed to be at launch. We needed a little bit more time. And Sony’s like “yeah, of course, no question, do that.” They were like: “make a great game.” That’s what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to create great experiences for people and make a great game.So we had the time to go in and make it better. And it got a lot better in those 4 months. It’s where we wanted it to be. It’s the game we saw in our heads.
 
If we ever get to the point where we look back at this game and think it is ugly, I'll be too old for this shit.
 
Well, isn't it funny--inFamous was never promised for 2013.

Never even insinuated, actually.

Really? Guess you are right, but I remember reading some article way back after E3 talking about how Infamous's Release date had been Pushed back to 2014...I think it is that everyone expected it to be a launch game since it was shown at the PS4 reveal.
 
Not really the bar under the ammo counter is the Black Sight Gauge, and depletes with use. Don't know how it's replenished though
Well in Killzone the adrenaline packs heal you, but also slow down time, so they have a dual use.

That sounds exactly like what was posted.

These knights have an elixir called BlackWater which can heal their wounds in seconds, the side effect to using blackwater is Black Sight which gives you the ability to slow down time, as explained by Ms. Tina Amini in the kotaku video.
Oh OK, on closer reading the side effect doesn't have to be directly tied to using the healing item in real time, which is how it works in Killzone. The side effect thing is more of just a story justification for a separate bullet-time meter? I can dig it.
 
Huh. Thats exactly how it works in Killzone: Shadowfall.

That GIF is so good. Wish I had seen it earlier because its the first bit of footage to make me smile because it looks like fun.

Did you download the footage from gametrailers? Watch it on your tv/laptop as Viveks86 mentioned, it's crazy good. Seriously Ready At Dawn's technical team must be oozing with talent, gameplay graphics have matched pre-rendered CGI seen in other games, and it's happening almost within the PS4's first anniversary. Imagine games down the line from Santa Monica Studios/Naughty Dog/Guerilla Games/Sucker Punch and third party developers when they shift focus to developing games strictly on PS4/Xbox One? This new generation is going to be glorious.
 
It's amazing how people still keep claiming that Infamous was delayed.

It's one of the many opinions (bullshit) that were presented as facts on this website. A few people assumed it was correctly because this is NeoGAF, the forum for the more informed gamer.

It's sad that you have to question information as if it was posted on Youtube or the IGN comment section. If someone wants to speculate, as least make the post look like you're just guessing.
 
July
The Last of Us

August
Diablo III
The Evil Within

September
Destiny
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

October
Alien Isolation
Drive Club
Dragon Age Iquisition
Evolve
Assassins Creed Unity

November
Batman Arkham Knight
COD Advanced Warfare
Battlefield SWAT
Far Cry 4

December
Guilty Gear Xrd
Deep Down
Planetside 2

PS4 Line up, October/November seems too busy for The Order I guess, hopefully Q1 2015 gives the game a better chance.
 
Better off delaying until Q1 2015. Release schedule will be much more open, in addition to the game getting enough time to be polished. There already is too much coming this fall, and we haven't even had E3 yet. The negative outlook that many people have about the "sparse" games line up for the PS4 later is year is largely unjustified. Exclusives help differentiate the systems, but third party support is far more important and PS4 has plenty of it this fall.

Titanfall was a major exclusive for XO, but it wasn't comparatively influential on sales. Wii U has some great first party exclusives, but it is struggling to find a place in the market. I am not disregarding exclusives' role as a sales driver, but is not the be all and end all that many make it out to be.
 
Well in Killzone the adrenaline packs heal you, but also slow down time, so they have a dual use.

That sounds exactly like what was posted.


Oh OK, on closer reading the side effect doesn't have to be directly tied to using the healing item in real time, which is how it works in Killzone. The side effect thing is more of just a story justification for a separate bullet-time meter? I can dig it.

Tina in her video mentioned, that the slow-down thing has a value to it, and it requires black water. You will have to collect and keep black water for faster healing and slowmo.
 
So nothing counts for you?
Okay

Nothing counts for people who claim PS4 has no games.

Multiplats - not games
F2p - not games
indies - DEFINITELY NOT games
AAA exclusives - the only things that are actually games

Each console only has about 10 games for an entire generation. PC hasn't had any games since Witcher 1 (arguable if this is even constitutes AAA).
 
Probably won't add it. Story comes first. And the story makes no sense with a second player. It's not about the gameplay, dammit!

I thought it was all about graphics. Not to troll but I found second son and kill zone both lacking in game play but my eyes had multiple orgasms. To me that's the experiences the ps4 has offered me.
 
I hope E3 does AT LEAST something to restore confidence in Sony's WWS for the future.

If we are screwed this year, at least give us something to look forward too.
 
Better off delaying until Q1 2015. Release schedule will be much more open, in addition to the game getting enough time to be polished. There already is too much coming this fall, and we haven't even had E3 yet. The negative outlook that many people have about the "sparse" games line up for the PS4 later is year is largely unjustified. Exclusives help differentiate the systems, but third party support is far more important and PS4 has plenty of it this fall.

Titanfall was a major exclusive for XO, but it wasn't comparatively influential on sales. Wii U has some great first party exclusives, but it is struggling to find a place in the market. I am not disregarding exclusives' role as a sales driver, but is not the be all and end all that many make it out to be.

Having the best console version is better than exclusives(for attracting sales) so you can say the best versions are exclusive to Sony. I think Sony is learning they don't need to rely on their exclusives anymore. Which is good because now they can really polish them instead of rushing them out the door.
 
Disappointing, but I would rather they cook it longer if it needs it rather than releasing something mediocre. Sony cant afford to have any of their big 1st party titles flop given the investment costs. I think its a smart move considering the financial situation they are in.
 
I hope E3 does AT LEAST something to restore confidence in Sony's WWS for the future.

If we are screwed this year, at least give us something to look forward too.
With a bunch of great multiplatform games coming, how are we screwed? Or are exclusives the only games worth playing?
 
It's one of the many opinions (bullshit) that were presented as facts on this website. A few people assumed it was correctly because this is NeoGAF, the forum for the more informed gamer.

It's sad that you have to question information as if it was posted on Youtube or the IGN comment section. If someone wants to speculate, as least make the post look like you're just guessing.

Infamous: SS was delayed. See my previous post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=113641099#post113641099
 
I always thought The Order would be 2015 and Uncharted 4 would be 2014. Naughty Dog is a bigger studio, U4 has been in the oven awhile now, and they've shipped plenty of AAA title games in the fall before. If for whatever reason Uncharted 4 doesn't release this year, well then I don't know.
 
July
The Last of Us

August
Diablo III
The Evil Within

September
Destiny
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

October
Alien Isolation
Drive Club
Dragon Age Iquisition
Evolve
Assassins Creed Unity

November
Batman Arkham Knight
COD Advanced Warfare
Battlefield SWAT
Far Cry 4

December
Guilty Gear Xrd
Deep Down
Planetside 2

PS4 Line up, October/November seems too busy for The Order I guess, hopefully Q1 2015 gives the game a better chance.

Sir you got the dates wrong for a few games. Shadow of Mordor is releasing on Oct7th, the very same day that sees the release of Alien Isolation and DriveClub. And Evil Within, well you might want to fight the evil inside you until it releases in October, sorry.
 
July
The Last of Us

August
Diablo III
The Evil Within

September
Destiny
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor

October
Alien Isolation
Drive Club
Dragon Age Iquisition
Evolve
Assassins Creed Unity

November
Batman Arkham Knight
COD Advanced Warfare
Battlefield SWAT
Far Cry 4

December
Guilty Gear Xrd
Deep Down
Planetside 2

PS4 Line up, October/November seems too busy for The Order I guess, hopefully Q1 2015 gives the game a better chance.

Hotline Miami 2 and PCARS am cry.
 
Wow, Sony has been delaying a lot of games recently...

Driveclub ----------- Delayed 1 yr. [11 months]
Deep Down -------- Delayed indefinitely[Sony is developing Deep Down?]
Infamous SS ------ Delayed 3 months(originally a launch game)[When was it said that Infamous was for launch?]
The Order 1886 -- Delayed 6 months[You know the initial release date?]
TLG ------------------- Delayed (how may years has it been)[That's not recent

While Ready at Dawn never gave an official release date for it, in an interview last year in august, they said that they were on track to release it in a year (Q3 2014).
IGN had an article or something on how the Order was expected to launch around August/September of this year, so I, and probably other people expected it to come out around then.
So while you could say this technically isn't a delay since we never had an official release date given, its pretty much a delay as it was expected to be out this year in Q3.
 
After DC being delayed a year because of freaking social networking menus, and after inFamous SS being delayed a few months despite being the most bare-bones inFamous game in terms of content, I think Sony really needs to start turning the screws on their first and second party studios.

I don't mind delays, so long as they're with a purpose and we end up getting a better game as a result. But if we're starting to get significant delays just to get the game we were supposed to at the original timeframe, or if they choose to focus on frivolous features, that's when the reins need to be pulled back.
 
Lol @ that amended title. Btw. Totally random but it's crazy how Sony & Nintendo always seem to have complimentary problems. One can't get their first party together, the other has a dearth of 3rd party support. One breaks sales records with home consoles while the other with handhelds. The universe is speaking.
 
Nothing counts for people who claim PS4 has no games.

Multiplats - not games
F2p - not games
indies - DEFINITELY NOT games
AAA exclusives - the only things that are actually games.

Maybe they should just release The Order with a single playable character and a few chapters. Sell the rest as "season" DLC. Then it will count as though it were a full release.
 
From the Eurogamer comments section:
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Someone needs to shop logos of currently delayed games to his t-shirt. :D
 
What pisses me off is this annoying continued ambiguous nature of the game's release.

IF they were going to push it to 2015, could they have AT LEAST given us a firm release date this time?

Like February or March? Something we could rely on.
 
I always thought The Order would be 2015 and Uncharted 4 would be 2014. Naughty Dog is a bigger studio, U4 has been in the oven awhile now, and they've shipped plenty of AAA title games in the fall before. If for whatever reason Uncharted 4 doesn't release this year, well then I don't know.

It's possible. It would follow the same anouncement scheme of Uncharted 2 more or less. (Small teaser end of year/beginning new. Big E3 blowout. November release).

I do hope so, but I don't get my hopes up.

For the Order, I'm glad they have the balls to delay and make it better then go into crunch and give us a lesser experience. It's a shame though that the Sony line up is quite barren of exclusives this Q4 that way. There is enough multiplatform goodness coming though...

Well, in the end I do expect we'll see an unanounced exclusive on E3 that might release in 2014 still.
 
OH and NOT all delayed games are eventually good.

Some are actually worse, because of the continued delays.

Duke Nukem Forever logic.

I always thought The Order would be 2015 and Uncharted 4 would be 2014. Naughty Dog is a bigger studio, U4 has been in the oven awhile now, and they've shipped plenty of AAA title games in the fall before. If for whatever reason Uncharted 4 doesn't release this year, well then I don't know.

If this does happen, Sony would be greatly redeemed, but honestly this seems like a slim possibility. I mean, would anybody honestly bet on this?

A more realistic eventuality is that Sony announced some other more minor profile titles for a Holiday 2014 release. Possibly those Killstrain or Entwined games.

With a bunch of great multiplatform games coming, how are we screwed? Or are exclusives the only games worth playing?

::Sigh::

Again, I bought this system in large part for the exclusives. If I wanted multiplatforms, I could've just stuck with a PC.
 
Kind of regret getting a PS4 so early now. I should have waited. With my interest in Destiny at an all-time low, and with most of my gaming done on PC, I can't really see myself turning it on much for the rest of the year except for the odd game of FIFA. At least there's DriveClub.
 
It will end up being a more successful IP for the delay. Fall is too crowded with multiplatform games. In Feb/Mar it will be wide open and have more gamers to sell to. I think Sony is trying to create big IPS now that they can get multiple games out of, so the success of the title is paramount.
 
OH and NOT all delayed games are eventually good.

Some are actually worse, because of the continued delays.

Duke Nukem Forever logic.

A game that always comes to mind as having needed more time is ME3. Sure i would've been disappointed but in the end it could have helped with many of its narrative problems. Since then I've learned to take these delays in stride. Hell, even appreciate them. Sony just needs to stop releasing these dates if they know they can't meet them.
 
Nothing counts for people who claim PS4 has no games.

Multiplats - not games
F2p - not games
indies - DEFINITELY NOT games
AAA exclusives - the only things that are actually games

Each console only has about 10 games for an entire generation. PC hasn't had any games since Witcher 1 (arguable if this is even constitutes AAA).

The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.
 
There is no proof that any point was DNF better than the game that shipped. The delays could have made it better, it just also never achieved the level of being good.
 
I doubt Sony let the title slip if they didn't have something planned for the holidays, wether it's a price cut or a game. I don't think we have a chance of seeing uncharted after all the news coming from ND but we won't have had a game from Bend in 3 years, or a console game from media molecule in longer....

or The Last Guardian
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.

Plus, people are interested mostly in major game releases.

Indie titles are nice, but not that prominent of a thing for most people.

Personally, I do like some F2P games, like Planetside 2, but I have a PC for titles like that.
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.

AAA exclusives are not what sells consoles. Look at the 360 vs PS3 in the US. Or the Wii U.
Isn't uncharted coming though.

Possibly. Despite what people on here think, it has a chance of coming out this year. They didn't go out of their way to clear up the 2015 release date confirmation from the ps blog post for nothing. And Uncharted 3 came out 3 years ago. No one knows what the current stage of development is at.
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.
Isn't uncharted coming though.
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.

Ok prove it.
 
I doubt Sony let the title slip if they didn't have something planned for the holidays, wether it's a price cut or a game. I don't think we have a chance of seeing uncharted after all the news coming from ND but we won't have had a game from Bend in 3 years, or a console game from media molecule in longer....

or The Last Guardian

Well, I hope you're right, but I wouldn't depend on this sort of thing.

JUST GIVE ME SOMETHING ELSE is all I'm saying. Please don't let all my optimism for this Holiday season rest on friggin Driveclub, which was supposed to be a launch title.

Isn't uncharted coming though.

This year? Wouldn't assume that to be the case.
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.

If remasters count, both Sony and MS are covered w/ TLOU and Halo AE, respectively.

Otherwise these sort of statements apply directly to MS (sad to say Sunset Overdrive will not have the sort of appeal the Order will have, even if it's a good game).
 
The "No Games" conversation is more targeted to the idea of the console war. AAA Exclusives are what sell consoles - that's a long-proven fact. Sony's lacking any major wide-appeal AAA exlcusive this year, and it will hurt them in the long run. For the sake of the game, this is the best decision. For the sake of Sony, it's one of the worst.
And if you know your history, AAA exclusives games WiLL come to Sony and sometimes even more than their competitor so why should we worry?
 
And if you know your history, AAA exclusives games WiLL come to Sony and sometimes even more than their competitor so why should we worry?

Its not a question of whether they will come, its a matter of this Holiday being totally bereft of such titles. Which is unacceptable.
 
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