Wishmaster92
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Good one
The Order: 1886 screenshots
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Good one
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Has anyone ever actually said what the FoV is?
It looks no wider to me.
It shouldn't be either, FoV is based on player distance from the screen and screen size.
FoV in this game is based on the aspect ratio and the virtual wide-lens they are using. I said this before (KKRTOO said I was wrong though) but with a wide-angle lens there should be more visible geometry than with a 35mm. Same as what happened with Resident Evil 6 and the FoV change.
EmptySpace
Banned
you have to design the game based on that, as what rad did. they did not just strip the top and bottom part from a 1080p framebuffer and got done with it.
paradise_circus
Member
Did no one mentioned the very filmic IQ of the whole scenery? It sure looks like Lottes game he wished to realize IQ-wise. I hope others will try to achieve the same level or even surpass this.
The last guardian with the same IQ would be so glorious.
The last guardian with the same IQ would be so glorious.
Has anyone ever actually said what the FoV is?
It looks no wider to me.
It shouldn't be either, FoV is based on player distance from the screen and screen size.
Not sure exactly what it is, but it appears to change depending on what you're doing (exploring, shooting, zooming etc), and in your relation to nearby walls, cover etc.
And what's stopping Crytek designing Ryse 2 (for instance) around it?
None of that really makes sense to me.
Firstly, I don't know how you're determining the 'virtual' film stock. If the lenses were simulated anamorphic lenses you'd see vertical haloing on lights, and it doesn't have it, so either it's not very accurately done, or it's actually modeling normal lenses with Super 35 stock, which is the standard way of shooting scope on film today.
Secondly, I don't know how any of that is relevant, if they're using virtual wide angle lenses on Super 35, the FoV would be between 85 and 65, but so are most console shooters. It doesn't really tell me what the FoV actually is.
dragonbane
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Are you talking about RaD? They are not Sony owned nor is the black bar thing anything new. It has been used multiple times in the past.
Night Angel
Member
Such concern.
Oh, I though that they were owned by Sony.
You need to learn what concern trolling is.
luxstellarum
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DirgeExtinction
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Your opinions on this game seem to be all over the place.
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There can't be any spaces.
His opinions in general, but I don't think he's trolling.
luxstellarum
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There can't be any spaces.
Stealthed. lol
Tidus_Great
Banned
graphics look amazing, but the game looks very boring and the dialogue and story are not looking promising. it's basically a more classy gears of war.
SDCowboy
Member
You know the story? Can you tell us about it?
Infinite Xero
Member
Everything is so dark and gray, it's unappealing. The IQ is great but everything seems to blend in with each other due to the colors.
We don't know anything about the story yet, do we?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
SDCowboy
Member
I'm going out on a limb here...but I'm guessing there's other areas beyond rooms with the lights off or alleyways covered in smoke. Also this is industrial revolution London, not Disneyland. That's how it looked for the most part.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Well they're emulating focal length, chromatic aberration, depth of field and dirt on the camera, so I don't expect they'll oh-no-oops forget to emulate the field-of-view as well.
And it's 35mm film they use for movies, not a 35mm lens - how the hell would RAD get a 2.35:1 ratio out of a prime 35mm lens? They're emulating the camera lenses, not the film stock. They're not expecting you to run the game through an anamorphic projector, so they're not using anamorphic lenses - they're using primes.
whats not promising about the story
Thats what I'm thinking. The characters, lore, premise, setting etc, if anything all make the story incredibly enticing, at least in my opinion.
Night Angel
Member
I heard there was a scene where some hand to hand combat takes place, using the good Commodore as a platform to trip enemies. Exciting stuff.
And people say this it just a typical TPS. Fucking insane.
Vire
Member
I dunno, the voice acting was kinda naff in the little clip.
viveks86
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Lmao!
Some gamers just prefer more color in their games. Others are just looking for something to criticize.
I gotta agree with this. It didn't feel natural to the occasion IMO.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Not sure if its the setting, but this game is not getting any love from me. Maybe I am jaded and maybe i'll be proven wrong, but not sure if this will turn out to be anything special.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Apparently, there's a whole bonus level side-scroller bit where you have to get him across London and through a building site without dropping him. Suda51 is programming it.
It's a bit like that Sleepwalker game on the Amiga, or that episode of Popeye were Swee' Pea gets loose.
SDCowboy
Member
I love bright colors in games also. But I also like period setting to look like what they are being modeled after.
looks like a downgrade to me too, the characters all look like living dead now too.
Like, there was no hot pink? At all? I was kind hoping for trails after my character, like in infamous. Just a little color to make things spicy.
Wait, do you mean a level like Donkey Kong? Enemies throwing barrels with Galahad having to jump them with the Commodore?
I'm in.
Orthogonal
Member
It might be the poor feed, but on a technical level, they are much better now. On an artistic level, it is subjective and some people may not like the change, but it is important to make that distinction.
EmptySpace
Banned
because you're asking for them to increase image quality.
ryse single player is using smaa 1tx at 1600x900 at 26-30 fps.
infamous second son open world is using smaa 2tx at 1920x1080 at 30+ fps most of the time.
let than sink in for a moment.
not trying to derail or be off-topic, but image quality isn't dependent on software alone. 1920x800 has more pixels than 1600x900 as well.
but enough of that talk.
That's how Super 35 works, it produces 2.35:1 frame without anamorphic lenses. The print is just extended to the unused optical audio part.
This is besides the point. 35mm lenses on 35mm stock results in roughly a 60 FoV. The argument was that this being in scope is giving the player a wider FoV, if it's 60, that's not the case at all.
Interficium
Banned
Why stop there.
Honestly you should be ashamed that your eye thinks these are PS2 graphics, the true hardcore among us would say something accurate, something like...
"Looks like a PS1 game."
"Looks sub 16-bit."
"Looks like last-last-last-last-last-gen NES graphics."
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I feel like we're doing all the work for RAD here, getting this game coloured-in and zhuzzed-up so people will actually want to buy it.
Oh well then, I don't know what's happening anymore. I assumed FoV in games, worked in the same way as focal lengths on cameras.
Night Angel
Member
Looks like a game from 1997.
mynameismyname
Banned
Why can't people just accept that the lack of color is simply what the art director deemed best for this game and just fucking roll with it?
EmptySpace
Banned
Night Angel
Member
Dammit. This is better.
Kinda like his honesty. And frankly, I think it should be in a new thread.
SDCowboy
Member
Or that. lol
EmptySpace
Banned
uhhhh..everyone should just download the uncompressed e3 trailer from years ago. looks so fucking good. and you can tell it was in-engine once its on your tv. it looked like a video game, that's for sure. then again there were specks of dust on the lens, there were these little details you won't be able to see on a compressed youtube video.