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[Plinko]

No Fear would be awesome. I'd also love to see The Shadow and WCS (two machines I'm eyeballing as my next ones) but I have a feeling they're equally as bad for licensing. Though maybe WCS might be a bit easier, given they'd want all the money they can get And maybe with The Shadow, they can pull a TAF and change the likeness of everyone famous in the backglass enough so they can release the table? From memory, there are zero actor likenesses on the playfield.

I voted for Flash too in that poll :/ I never realised it, but are you a Steve Ritchie fan? Mentioning No Fear and Flash in the same post! I'd love to see Flash make it, such a great playing game.

Doesn't The Shadow have actor likenesses in the DMD scenes, though?

I can't imagine WCS is that difficult for licensing.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

What happened? Did you suggest it could've been the next game and that's how it made the wiki? Or are you talking about something else?

No, they both just really dig it and think licensing would be "super cheap" and that its a good table. Trust me, Norm has way more out there choices of his own.

Also, the next table is what we all know

 

[sefskillz]

What's a decent entry-level price point machine that's actually pretty good? Some machines I really enjoy playing are Scared Stiff, White Water, High Roller, and RBION but I feel like those are a bit out of reach for someone who doesn't have a massive budget (or, at least, won't have one for a while).

Been hearing rumblings of machines like Johnny Mnemonic, Shadow, or Demolition Man but I don't know a lot about these tables. Please advise!

I picked up a Johnny Mnemonic in pretty good shape recently for 1900. Shadow is probably gonna run you quite a bit more (mid 2s to low 3s), but its a great game. Demo Man is pretty awesome and can be had in the 1800-2200 range. You can find some great System11 games in the low to mid 1000s, but it sounds like you're after a DMD. Depending on where you live, its tough to pick and choose the exact game you want, so its a good idea to spread your wings a bit and have a few you'd be willing to buy when the opportunity comes up. Judge Dredd and World Cup Soccer are two more DMDs I'll throw out there that can be had at the ~2k mark, but there are a lot of good ones at that price point.

 

[twinturbo2]

No Fear would be awesome. I'd also love to see The Shadow and WCS (two machines I'm eyeballing as my next ones) but I have a feeling they're equally as bad for licensing. Though maybe WCS might be a bit easier, given they'd want all the money they can get And maybe with The Shadow, they can pull a TAF and change the likeness of everyone famous in the backglass enough so they can release the table? From memory, there are zero actor likenesses on the playfield.

I voted for Flash too in that poll :/ I never realised it, but are you a Steve Ritchie fan? Mentioning No Fear and Flash in the same post! I'd love to see Flash make it, such a great playing game.

Well, High Speed II was pretty high on my wish list, pun intended, so...

 

[Gunstarheroes]

Man, walked around today with Norman and we checked out tables and had some really cool talk. No insider info, but i can tell you, we are both big fans of Space Station!

If any of you are near Pittsburgh, its worth coming out to this event. The amount of tables is staggering. Lots of time logged in with High Speed, Attack From Mars, World Cup Soccer, Godzilla (I Like it anyways), Fire, Escape From The Lost World, and that barely scratches the surface.

 

[twinturbo2]

Speaking of, I'd also like to see Indianapolis 500, but that license may not be cheap.

 

[sefskillz]

If any of you are near Pittsburgh, its worth coming out to this event. The amount of tables is staggering. Lots of time logged in with High Speed, Attack From Mars, World Cup Soccer, Godzilla (I Like it anyways), Fire, Escape From The Lost World, and that barely scratches the surface.

ReplayFX looks incredible but that Pinburgh tournament format sounds grueling as hell. Two 14 hour days of pinball to qualify just to do it a third time? That's a test of will and skill!

Somewhat related for those of us that can't make it, the PAPA finals stream starts around 5pm est today

 

[Vyse24]

Safe Cracker is now out on iOS.

 

[sefskillz]

PAPA stream from Pinburgh for the Semfinals and Finals is live http://www.twitch.tv/papatvpinball

 

[Gunstarheroes]

ReplayFX looks incredible but that Pinburgh tournament format sounds grueling as hell. Two 14 hour days of pinball to qualify just to do it a third time? That's a test of will and skill!

Somewhat related for those of us that can't make it, the PAPA finals stream starts around 5pm est today

Yeah, i watched quite a bit of it and had some friends in it, and it was rough, but i saw some great play and learned some good tricks for Scared Stiff.

Also i really hope Bone Busters Inc is back on tomorrow

 

[BobTheFork]

Super bummed out I couldn't to Pinburgh.

Third year in a row I haven't had the money. It's tough to spend that just for a pinball trip but maybe next year. We had 8-10 people from our group go and play and all the pictures look amazing.

The only good spot was with all the heavy hitters gone, I cleaned out a bunch of locals and made some money at the Sunday tournament.

I got word from my roommate that Elwin is finally coming out to the dory Hill campout in about a month. I didn't book a cabin in time so I'm going to bunk in my car. I should get some good pictures. It's always a blast.

 

[spineduke]

There's a sale on steam - stumbled upon it by chance. 50% off Season 1 and 2.

Is Safecracker coming to Steam?

 

[Shaneus]

Jesus, how come it's been so long since I've been in this thread? Have some catching up to do!

I can't imagine WCS is that difficult for licensing.

I'm thinking FIFA.

Ugh I've been bitten by the pinball bug and want to start saving for a machine.

What's a decent entry-level price point machine that's actually pretty good? Some machines I really enjoy playing are Scared Stiff, White Water, High Roller, and RBION but I feel like those are a bit out of reach for someone who doesn't have a massive budget (or, at least, won't have one for a while).

Been hearing rumblings of machines like Johnny Mnemonic, Shadow, or Demolition Man but I don't know a lot about these tables. Please advise!

What's your budget? Scared Stiff and White Water will set you back a decent amount (I think around $4k is the going rate for each in the US), High Roller Casino should be cheaper and I think RBION is experiencing a bit of a resurgence. As for the others you mentioned, I think they're $2500-$3k for REALLY nice examples. They go for more here in Australia so I can't give you any idea about local prices, but they'll definitely be cheaper (on average) than the first ones you listed.

If your budget is $1000-1500ish, I'd look at getting an early-mid 80s Bally/Williams machine. I love my High Speed and Pinbot would be a solid choice too.

No, they both just really dig it and think licensing would be "super cheap" and that its a good table. Trust me, Norm has way more out there choices of his own.

Also, the next table is what we all know

Not that I'm looking for insider info, but do you know what he'd like to see in there as an example? Was the name Rollergames mentioned in any context?

I don't think I've ever played Rescue 911... or if I have, it would've been back in the 90s. Having a look at pics though, it has those Gottlieb flippers that I never really liked the feel of. But I'm sure they'd feel better in TPA than IRL!

Well, High Speed II was pretty high on my wish list, pun intended, so...

Good man. Though I think something's lost in translation with his tables to TPA, you just can't get that flow that you feel on a real machine designed by him

Man, walked around today with Norman and we checked out tables and had some really cool talk. No insider info, but i can tell you, we are both big fans of Space Station!

If any of you are near Pittsburgh, its worth coming out to this event. The amount of tables is staggering. Lots of time logged in with High Speed, Attack From Mars, World Cup Soccer, Godzilla (I Like it anyways), Fire, Escape From The Lost World, and that barely scratches the surface.

I loved watching Godzilla on a stream some time ago. Can't remember what it was for, but it was a fun looking machine. Glad you dig High Speed as well, there's something in playing a real one that doesn't get captured in TPA.

ReplayFX looks incredible but that Pinburgh tournament format sounds grueling as hell. Two 14 hour days of pinball to qualify just to do it a third time? That's a test of will and skill!

Somewhat related for those of us that can't make it, the PAPA finals stream starts around 5pm est today

I'd love to try and go next year. I have a hunch it'll be a PITA to get a ticket, but the journey would be worth it, no matter how exhausted I'd get.

I got word from my roommate that Elwin is finally coming out to the dory Hill campout in about a month. I didn't book a cabin in time so I'm going to bunk in my car. I should get some good pictures. It's always a blast.

Lucky bastard. I think you posted photos of that from last year, yeah? Or might've been someone else, but it looked like a rad event. Jealous.

There's a sale on steam - stumbled upon it by chance. 50% off Season 1 and 2.

Is Safecracker coming to Steam?

It's already out on Steam. At least, in the season pack.

 

[sefskillz]

I mentioned it once before, but its officially out now on Android and iOS so figured I would bring it up again...

I've been working on an app called Pinscores, which is kind of like Untappd for pinball scores. I wanted something to help me keep track of my scores on various games along with the different locations I play at and also see where my friends are currently playing etc.

Now that I've got it launched on both app stores, I'm really going to start pushing more features in, ideas I have, along with some feedback I've gotten so far. I know some people are looking for a good app to run tournaments, so I'm thinking about venturing into that territory with it as well.

I'd love to get any feedback from you location players out there.

You can snag it here: http://www.pinscores.co/

 

[Shaneus]

That looks like a solid app, for sure. Need to get out into some more location pinball (MUCH more) but I can see it being a cool little, almost ARG-like app. Already put it out there to my friends in our small FB chat group.

I also RT'd the latest tweet to Steve Bowden/FunWithBonus, so that might get the word out there too

 

[sefskillz]

That looks like a solid app, for sure. Need to get out into some more location pinball (MUCH more) but I can see it being a cool little, almost ARG-like app. Already put it out there to my friends in our small FB chat group.

I also RT'd the latest tweet to Steve Bowden/FunWithBonus, so that might get the word out there too

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

 

[Teppic]

Does anyone else feel that many of the tables in the Pinball Arcade are too easy? What I mean is that it's too easy to see evertything the table has to offer. One of my first pinball experiences was Pinball Fantasies, and in that game I haven't yet as today seen everything in all tables, even though I played that game a lot. Is there some tables in the Pinball Arcade you feel that fills this criteria? You can be good at the table and there's still things you have yet to explore?

 

[Shaneus]

Does anyone else feel that many of the tables in the Pinball Arcade are too easy? What I mean is that it's too easy to see evertything the table has to offer. One of my first pinball experiences was Pinball Fantasies, and in that game I haven't yet as today seen everything in all tables, even though I played that game a lot. Is there some tables in the Pinball Arcade you feel that fills this criteria? You can be good at the table and there's still things you have yet to explore?

Yup, majority of the tables feel far too easy. For example, I struggle to crack 6-7 million on my High Speed at home, yet I can roll it numerous times in TPA. Their physics are far too forgiving and many games have vacuum ramps that feel like they suck the ball. Like on Creature.

I haven't seen everything on Ripley's, that's probably the main one I want to crack... but I'd rather do that on my IRL machine (which I'm still yet to do :/).

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

No worries! I like the concept behind it, would like to see it become popular. Like a pinball map but with competitive scoring attached.

 

[Bebpo]

Does anyone else feel that many of the tables in the Pinball Arcade are too easy? What I mean is that it's too easy to see evertything the table has to offer. One of my first pinball experiences was Pinball Fantasies, and in that game I haven't yet as today seen everything in all tables, even though I played that game a lot. Is there some tables in the Pinball Arcade you feel that fills this criteria? You can be good at the table and there's still things you have yet to explore?

Well, I think having perfect tilt on command makes a huge difference imo.

 

[BobTheFork]

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Lucky bastard. I think you posted photos of that from last year, yeah? Or might've been someone else, but it looked like a rad event. Jealous.

It was someone else who posted those. I'm going to take some this year but there is a good player named Gene from SF who is a professional and has a site/company called Orange Photography that posted some great pictures.

I hate to say this but I get worn out when we go up to that Altitude so I'm never up at 3-4 am when most of those pictures get taken. I'm working on a diet and exercise for oxygen use. It sounds insane that I'm prepping for a pinball tourney like a marathon, especially when I already like in Denver but I never go up to the mountains much so I have to prep for the extra 5000 feet.

That and the huge amount of drinking I do at this tourney. : )

That guy, Gene did a great write up on pinside about this tournament. We have people from all over the country now and I think a few outside the country.

I actually don't love the Pingolf format itself but the weekend is amazing.

If you ever get a chance it's a great tournament to come out for.

 

[Shaneus]

It was someone else who posted those. I'm going to take some this year but there is a good player named Gene from SF who is a professional and has a site/company called Orange Photography that posted some great pictures.

King of Pinball Gene X Hwang. Yeah, I might've heard of him Must be weird to think that people you kinda know or are in your league have been heard of a half a world away via podcasts and such.

I hate to say this but I get worn out when we go up to that Altitude so I'm never up at 3-4 am when most of those pictures get taken. I'm working on a diet and exercise for oxygen use. It sounds insane that I'm prepping for a pinball tourney like a marathon, especially when I already like in Denver but I never go up to the mountains much so I have to prep for the extra 5000 feet.

That and the huge amount of drinking I do at this tourney. : )

Can I ask what diet/exercise? I know just generally eating better and any exercise would help, but wondering if there's anything specific you're using to limber up or whatever.

And I don't mind Pingolf, though I've only ever played in one (AFAIK there's only been one IFPA-sanctioned Pingolf event in Australia).

 

[Tetraeon]

I picked up a Johnny Mnemonic in pretty good shape recently for 1900. Shadow is probably gonna run you quite a bit more (mid 2s to low 3s), but its a great game. Demo Man is pretty awesome and can be had in the 1800-2200 range. You can find some great System11 games in the low to mid 1000s, but it sounds like you're after a DMD. Depending on where you live, its tough to pick and choose the exact game you want, so its a good idea to spread your wings a bit and have a few you'd be willing to buy when the opportunity comes up. Judge Dredd and World Cup Soccer are two more DMDs I'll throw out there that can be had at the ~2k mark, but there are a lot of good ones at that price point.

Guess I need to keep my ear to the ground here. Always a bit tougher to find a machines to play in Canada, let alone one for sale. Thanks!!

 

[Blu10]

Guess I need to keep my ear to the ground here. Always a bit tougher to find a machines to play in Canada, let alone one for sale. Thanks!!

Check out this link of pins for sale in Canada. The topic is very active, and I'm sure you'll see something come up you might be interested in. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/anybody-in-canada-have-any-pins-they-want-to-sell/page/57

 

[BobTheFork]

King of Pinball Gene X Hwang. Yeah, I might've heard of him Must be weird to think that people you kinda know or are in your league have been heard of a half a world away via podcasts and such.


Can I ask what diet/exercise? I know just generally eating better and any exercise would help, but wondering if there's anything specific you're using to limber up or whatever.

And I don't mind Pingolf, though I've only ever played in one (AFAIK there's only been one IFPA-sanctioned Pingolf event in Australia).

I found Gene's last name yesterday. I think I've mentioned this but I live with Jennifer Peavler as a roommate and she and Gene are good friends so he comes over to our house a few times a year. Elwin stayed at our house last year when IFPA was in Denver. Nice guy but he and I didn't talk much. It may have been you but I once mention I lived with the 2nd best female player in the world and they just knew it was Jennifer.

IFPA was the first time I had met most of the major players and I don't get out of town for tournaments so I never really run into them or remember their names.

My diet right now is all carbs gone for 3 weeks and I cut my calories down to around 1300 a day. Normally that's too low but I work a desk job and sit at home all night so I'm not burning much more than that. I'm going to up the calories when I start on my bike next week.

Other than that I've found that electrolytes are really important so I tried to stack up on some bananas and gatorade a few days before I go play. In this case it's really just for altitude. I need to drop some weight anyways so I figure this would be a good time and I would be in better shape when we go up the mountain. I've tried to find physical solutions to play but it's really a mental game so it's more about being comfortable.

Good shoes you can stand in for 12-14 hours a day for a few days. WATER, lots of water and I go with light snacks. You just need to feel like you can win. I'm taking some ginseng and eating a good grip of tuna this month to see if that helps me with altitude tireness.

Pingolf is fun but I'm not great at it. I always get into A division but I never place very high in A. The hook of Pingolf is that you have to be good on every game. A few extra strokes will kill you. Trent Augustine won this tourney the last two years and with him and Elwin I'm not betting on any locals beating them unless Donovan Stepp or Adam Leftkoft has a huge day.

The best part are people decorating the cabins. A friend brought his F-14 last year and decorated the cabin Top Gun style, complete with Skeleton Goose in a flight suit.

 

[Blu10]

Just got a Metallica on location near me. What a fantastic game! Couldn't figure out the rules to save my life, but it tops Ac/dc in my opinion.

 

[sefskillz]

Just got a Metallica on location near me. What a fantastic game! Couldn't figure out the rules to save my life, but it tops Ac/dc in my opinion.

awesome! its so damn good, so many ways to play it. papa has a tutorial with bowen, its on older code but it should get you enough of the basics: http://papa.org/2014/05/16/metallica-tutorial/

 

[Vyse24]

Just in case anyone here thought that Farsight was hinting a different table for the next release:

 

[twinturbo2]

Just in case anyone here thought that Farsight was hinting a different table for the next release:

Hopefully, they can add Corvette and Indy 500 next...

 

[microtubule]

Just in case anyone here thought that Farsight was hinting a different table for the next release:

Ohhhhh!!! that would make a TERRIFIC start to Season 5!

 

[Shaneus]

Just in case anyone here thought that Farsight was hinting a different table for the next release:

Yeah, they teased some screens on their FB:

Ohhhhh!!! that would make a TERRIFIC start to Season 5!

Only problem is, if I want it I have to kinda double dip for it on iOS because they won't sell the full season unless all the tables have been released. Fortunately, I have no problem double-dipping on HS2 because it should be awesome. Hopefully.

 

[twinturbo2]

Yeah, they teased some screens on their FB:



Only problem is, if I want it I have to kinda double dip for it on iOS because they won't sell the full season unless all the tables have been released. Fortunately, I have no problem double-dipping on HS2 because it should be awesome. Hopefully.

I'M THROWING MONEY AT MY SCREEN

NOTHING IS HAPPENING

GIVE IT TO ME

NOW

 

[Vyse24]

Tomorrow, 7pmET/4pmPT, Getaway: High Speed 2 stream from Farsight. Expect the Newsletter Friday, and the table to be released Saturday.

 

[Velinos]

Still waiting for season 3 to go on sale.

Went back and played some TPA in preparation for a big pingolf event next weekend. Finally finished TOTAN with over 75 million and it didn't hang at the restart (w00t!). Still can't start the HAREM multiball, but in due time hopefully.

 

[bloodydrake]

i wouldn't expect to see season 3 on sale anytime soon honestly.

 

[Shaneus]

i wouldn't expect to see season 3 on sale anytime soon honestly.

Yeah, we only just saw 1 and 2 go on sale for PC (I think? Or was it consoles?). Anyway, yeah... don't hold your breath, it'll be a long while.


Edit:
So this is awesome, someone on Tilt Forums has started http://pintips.net/, which looks to be the start of a great site with small tidbits of info for various games that can be upvoted, downvoted, corrected or even submit your own. I think this will be insanely handy for comps, especially with games you've never seen before!
On a similar note, Pavlov Pinball also have an article called 5 Second Game Guides. Not sure if it's dynamic or not, but it has a stack of tiny tips for decent scores on a lot of machines.

Certainly two handy sites for someone like me who can't get the experience of a variety of machines.

 

[Tetraeon]

Check out this link of pins for sale in Canada. The topic is very active, and I'm sure you'll see something come up you might be interested in. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/anybody-in-canada-have-any-pins-they-want-to-sell/page/57

Woah, this is killer. I love Pinside but didn't know about this thread. Thanks!!

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Pavlov Pinball also have an article called 5 Second Game Guides. Not sure if it's dynamic or not, but it has a stack of tiny tips for decent scores on a lot of machines.

Certainly two handy sites for someone like me who can't get the experience of a variety of machines.

Any Stern game
Shoot stuff, get points!

ha!

 

[Vyse24]

218.3MB download right now on Steam. You know what that means:

Version 1.41.7
- Added The Getaway: High Speed 2
- Added Season 5
- GI fix for all emulated tables
- Tuning improvements to these tables. More info in the Blahcade podcast #20 (http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/10428-BlahCade-Podcast-20-Forum-Questions-Part-1)
* Black Hole
* Star Trek:TNG
* Funhouse
* Dr. Dude
* Junk Yard
* Taxi
* Fire Power
* High Roller Casino
* Attack from Mars
* Theatre of Magic

Expect the newsletter soon.

 

[Vyse24]

New newsletter is here. Sales, ReplayFX, Flipper physics and more.

Spoiler

F-14 Tomcat

https://773839.content.nlgrid.com/w...YM1Z6WlhKZmFXUWlPakV4TVRFNU56QTFNRGd3TVgwPQ==

 

[twinturbo2]

New newsletter is here. Sales, ReplayFX, Flipper physics and more.

Spoiler

F-14 Tomcat

https://773839.content.nlgrid.com/w...YM1Z6WlhKZmFXUWlPakV4TVRFNU56QTFNRGd3TVgwPQ==

YAAAAAAAAAASSSSS
(Normally, people saying that makes me cringe, but I can make an exemption here, can I?)

 

[twinturbo2]

My only disappointment with High Speed II is that there's no vibration on my gamepad when I hit the Supercharger shot. Otherwise, totally worth it.

Bring on F-14 Tomcat next!

 

[Shaneus]

I wish I knew Getaway actually came out. I never saw TPA on my PC update, so I never noticed it downloaded Getaway and now I'm sad because I missed playing it yesterday And of course I had no idea it was out either because yes, the iOS update was delayed (big surprise there).

F-14 Tomcat as the next table? Aw yiss, opening the season up with some Steve Ritchie classics! Not sure what this means with me playing on iOS, though... with no full seasons to be bought early, do I buy individual tables or just stick with the trials until S5 is complete?

 

[AstroLad]

What are the rumored Stern games that Nate was referencing on this week's C2C? I think he mentioned one new title and one retheme or something. Game of Thrones + something else.

Damn pure-adult themes (and I don't even follow GoT -- yes, I'm the one -- so double whammy there). :/

 

[nicoga3000]

What are the rumored Stern games that Nate was referencing on this week's C2C? I think he mentioned one new title and one retheme or something. Game of Thrones + something else.

Damn pure-adult themes (and I don't even follow GoT -- yes, I'm the one -- so double whammy there). :/

I haven't listened to it yet, but it's all but confirmed that Stern is redoing Spider-Man with new art. So he could be talking about that?

 

[AstroLad]

Yeah that must be it, matches description. Better then GoT at least for me. Really wishing we got a home-run family theme from one of these companies but I guess I'll keep waiting.

 

[microtubule]

Funny I was just listening to the Blahcade Podcast and now the new update with Flipper Physics 3.0 is released on Steam!

Another update:

Version 1.41.9
- Fixed issue where if you tried to buy season 5 pro upgrade it would have you purchase season 4 pro upgrade. If you did this, contact support@pinballarcade.com and let them know your farsight account name and steam name and we'll get it sorted for you.

Version 1.41.8
- Flipper Physics 3.0 in all tables now
- Instruction fixes for The Getaway: High Speed 2
- Fixed table of the month to be White Water

 

[bloodydrake]

just went back and played some of the older tables like MonsterBash, Medivial Madness TOM and Creature, they all play so much nicer now with the newer flipper mechanics..
Really surprised to see all the tables done so fast..they made it seem like they were gonna be trickled out

 

[Shaneus]

Yeah that must be it, matches description. Better then GoT at least for me. Really wishing we got a home-run family theme from one of these companies but I guess I'll keep waiting.

Still don't know why they don't do a Muppets theme. It would kill. And after hearing on one of the last few episodes just how let down that woman was on Woah Nellie, Stern really need to lift their game and start appealing to more than just the middle-aged white dude with disposable income. I could see Muppets being an incredible license for a pinball machine (Animal drum toy, Gonzo bike a-la the magnetic multiball thing in Kiss... and that's just off the top of my head). Minions could be good but is far too much of a short-time fad to be appealing to both adults and kids on a long-term basis, maybe a Lego-themed (not Lego movie) machine too? Modding and adding toys to that by just adding bricks could be pretty amazing for kids.

just went back and played some of the older tables like MonsterBash, Medivial Madness TOM and Creature, they all play so much nicer now with the newer flipper mechanics..
Really surprised to see all the tables done so fast..they made it seem like they were gonna be trickled out

I enjoy the new mechanics because it feels a little less scripted if that makes sense, but live catches still feel really random... sometimes I'll pull one off accidentally and other times the ball will fly off the flipper again.

Haven't tried drop catches because I can never pull them off in real life, let alone in TPA

 

[Vyse24]

Funny I was just listening to the Blahcade Podcast and now the new update with Flipper Physics 3.0 is released on Steam!

Another update:

524.2MB update. Jeez.

 

[Shaneus]

524.2MB update. Jeez.

That's because so many tables were updated! They say all of them, but I don't know how they could've tested the physics across all the tables. I'm guessing there'll be a few bugs on some machines (like unmakeable shots etc).