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The Price Is Right MAFIA edition |OT| Come on down!!!
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You justified both flips at the moment as "gathering information". What information do you have to show for it? Splinter was more reserved in both votes, when he actively tried to vote me (WAMD) out instead, but you have been the main force between both lynches so far and at this point I'll rather see your motivations behind said votes.
So I want to lynch you for "information"
If its stolen I think its fair to think that neither Oceanic or magnum are going to be able to use it, so that is a night town is not able to use it to find scum.
If magnum is lynched tonight, then scum has a very clear target on Oceanic (If he is town) since he is a confirmed cop and didn't bother to claim it was not one shot.
On the other hand, if magnum is still alive it means scum might consider not killing Oceanic since Magnum could steal the laptop and use it for town's benefit. Making killing Oceanic a wasted kill (again, if he is town)
Neutral Magnum is beneficial numbers-wise until he wins. When he wins, he leaves the game and no longer offers the advantage to us. He will play to win, and his win hurts us.
I justified both flips? You must have me confused with someone else, or look at the votes again.
Yes.
I'm not saying her actions on D1 were part of a larger plan. Everyone's plans in these games stay fluid. But even if players want to call me paranoid-Town, I don't think this is an overreaction. Part of the "blending" behavior of a mafia player is not just to stay out of sight, but also to make players believe you're on their side.
First of all, we have no reason to believe his claim. For all we know, he could be mafia. Second, do we know if he is taken into account regarding win conditions, i.e. if it is 2:2:1, would mafia not just win?
Either way, there is no reason not to lynch him. He lied before, his ability is to our disadvantage, he has no reason to help us (and iirc his previous "big contribution" on the target of the Xbox was a dud). If we lynch him, we minimize our risk, we avoid losing items and should he flip mafia we gain important information on those that defended.
Someone remind me, but isn't the whole WAMD lynch train based on supposed slip ups on D1? Because that is pretty weak. Either way though, why have some people not voted yet?
Come, Sawneeks, join me in the cheap seats. I have snacks and no inane questions from Kark. It's great.
Oh, hi. Care to play the game?
Nah I'm good for now
Oh, and reading back, I found this nice exchange after Dusk revealed the xbox
Sawneek did had information and kind of implied he believed Dusk, meanwhile Karkador effectively killed all information coming from this, since he implied anyone who would confirm Dusks claim could by find suspicious.
CornBurrito
Member
Made it home in time to vote. If you are town and are not voting because you're discouraged, don't be. Mislynches happen, especially in the beginning phase. As El Topo said, that only 9/16 players voted thus far is really bad.
Vote: Salvapot
Even if Salva flips scum, I'm still coming after you Splinter. Don't think I've forgotten.
Vote: Salvapot
Even if Salva flips scum, I'm still coming after you Splinter. Don't think I've forgotten.
You know, Splinter. You're full of [REDACTED].
Earlier in the game, you try to insult me about not knowing how to play, moments after (feigning?) panic that you thought there was 24hrs left in the game when there were like 2 hours left.
Now you've washed up to shore again, with 2 hours left, to get another potshot at me with no substance.
Are you even in this game? Do you come around to just be a [REDACTED]? Add something to the discussion or sub the [REDACTED] out, you [REDACTED].
Earlier in the game, you try to insult me about not knowing how to play, moments after (feigning?) panic that you thought there was 24hrs left in the game when there were like 2 hours left.
Now you've washed up to shore again, with 2 hours left, to get another potshot at me with no substance.
Are you even in this game? Do you come around to just be a [REDACTED]? Add something to the discussion or sub the [REDACTED] out, you [REDACTED].
Why don't you help me vote Splinter instead? Do you really think I am scum?
StarSketch
Banned
Add something to the discussion? I know you don't read my posts but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
No, I'm not getting into this with you today. I'm just going to give you 2 options:
- Prepare your defense
- Kill me tonight
StarSketch
Banned
Actually wait
Vote: Karkador
Vote: Karkador
Am I not worth your time?
How about some introspection into why you're one of the most toxic players in this community
Still waiting for your reads on Kalor, CM, and CornBro, Kark.
Exactly. We wanted Dusk lynched to see his alignment to confirm/disprove our theories. Having Dusk left alive would have always kept the possibility open that Dusk and 1 Mason were Scum.
I gave my opinion on what I thought Kyan was and I vouched that he is indeed a Mason but I have not vouched for his alignment.
You found me out, Kark. My Big Bad Mafia plan, ruined! Curses!
I gave my opinion on Kyan, I'm not sticking up for him. You want to lynch Kyan go for it, I won't agree with it and I'm not willing to vote for him now.
So outing a Mason pair who may actually be two Townies isn't painting a massive target on their backs?
If we are both Town we just sent a signal out to Scum who had no idea the chat existed. This is why we didn't come forward to out ourselves, we didn't know yet. We questioned each other both here and the Mason chat in order to try and figure out if there was enough grounds for us to come forward and accuse the other of being Scum.
Was I going to let my uncertainty possibly let two Townies get Nked by Scum? No, that's why I waited and tried to figure it out on my own because there was a chance Kyan could be Town. There is still the possibility Kyan is Scum but I wasn't ready to roll the dice and test that out just in case he wasn't and I ended up blowing it for nothing.
We never even discussed items or bidding at Night and I don't believe we ever had plans to. I'm sure if either of us had asked each other if we had an item or bid it would have sent up red flags so high they would be in space.
Would you say it's a 50/50 chance?
Kyan and I both agreed to come forward after OA mentioned he found a Mason that didn't vote for Dusk, clearly meaning he had investigated me since Kyan voted for Dusk. Kyan was going to bed and I was getting out of classes/work so I said I would claim. On the way home I thought about it and psyched myself out, eventually getting cold feet and backing out of claiming in the end. But, as I told Kyan in the Mason chat, if he wanted to come forward then he could.
As much as I was amused by your Thunderdome comment earlier I already said I feel like Kyan is Town to me.
Exactly. We wanted Dusk lynched to see his alignment to confirm/disprove our theories. Having Dusk left alive would have always kept the possibility open that Dusk and 1 Mason were Scum.
I gave my opinion on what I thought Kyan was and I vouched that he is indeed a Mason but I have not vouched for his alignment.
You found me out, Kark. My Big Bad Mafia plan, ruined! Curses!
I gave my opinion on Kyan, I'm not sticking up for him. You want to lynch Kyan go for it, I won't agree with it and I'm not willing to vote for him now.
So outing a Mason pair who may actually be two Townies isn't painting a massive target on their backs?
If we are both Town we just sent a signal out to Scum who had no idea the chat existed. This is why we didn't come forward to out ourselves, we didn't know yet. We questioned each other both here and the Mason chat in order to try and figure out if there was enough grounds for us to come forward and accuse the other of being Scum.
Was I going to let my uncertainty possibly let two Townies get Nked by Scum? No, that's why I waited and tried to figure it out on my own because there was a chance Kyan could be Town. There is still the possibility Kyan is Scum but I wasn't ready to roll the dice and test that out just in case he wasn't and I ended up blowing it for nothing.
We never even discussed items or bidding at Night and I don't believe we ever had plans to. I'm sure if either of us had asked each other if we had an item or bid it would have sent up red flags so high they would be in space.
Would you say it's a 50/50 chance?
Kyan and I both agreed to come forward after OA mentioned he found a Mason that didn't vote for Dusk, clearly meaning he had investigated me since Kyan voted for Dusk. Kyan was going to bed and I was getting out of classes/work so I said I would claim. On the way home I thought about it and psyched myself out, eventually getting cold feet and backing out of claiming in the end. But, as I told Kyan in the Mason chat, if he wanted to come forward then he could.
As much as I was amused by your Thunderdome comment earlier I already said I feel like Kyan is Town to me.
If you are trying to get me to vote for you, splinter, its not going to happen today. I am keeping my vote on Karkador and hoping town follows me there.
That means I am not going to change my vote to magnum just to save myself. I believe he is useful in keeping Oceanic alive for one more day.
That means I am not going to change my vote to magnum just to save myself. I believe he is useful in keeping Oceanic alive for one more day.
CornBurrito
Member
I'd vote for Splinter, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because barely anybody has even addressed my concerns about Splinter.
I have, didn't you read my long post early in the day? Right now I am focusing on karkador but I definitely put Splinter in my lynch list.
Probably
You're certainly trying hard to avoid the lynch - this is the most I've ever seen you contribute. There are also too many people passively defending you for me to ignore.
If scum, you already started bussing Kark though... That could make tomorrow awkward for you, which could in turn be interesting for the rest of us.
In all seriousness, our hands are tied today. Any reasonable chance of removing magnum safely died with Dusk, and if we don't lynch him today then we're giving up the cop.
VOTE: Magnumboy20xx
I usually don't cooperate as much because I usually don't take the game seriously, but this time town was so predisposed to lynch me for a very stupid reason that I had to raise up to the challenge.
I am curious, why would bussing Kark would make tomorrow awkward? You mean if he is successfully lynched and turns out to be town, or if he turns out to be scum? I don't understand what you are trying to imply here.
I am saying that tomorrow will - if I have anything to say about it - be all about Kark. If you are already bussing, as seems to be the case, then tomorrow you will have to choose between sticking to those guns or trying to walk back your position enough to defend him.
Or maybe I was wrong all along, bleh.
I guess we could just lynch Kark today. I err... assumed that would not be an option. Sketch's vote surprised the hell out of me though
Splinter 2.0
I'd respond, but I wouldn't want to keep circling a point some squabbling, non-participating fence sitters are gonna try to insult me for.
I'm obviously rather upset in a not-pretend way, so I'm not posting anything else for today.
Try not to smear the popcorn on that shit-eating grin.
We can try. There is enough time, and to be honest, I think letting magnun live is better than letting me live. As I said I think Magnum's presence is a strong deterrent for scum to kill Ocean.
Vote Karkador.
melonrabbit
Member
This has been a very strange day.
unvote
unvote
StarSketch
Banned
Except for the fact that Mafia can just kill Oceanic if we do that, as opposed to them killing Magnum for us on the assumption he took the laptop. It's a lose - lose situation.
OceanicAir
Member
vote: Sawneeks
I agree a lot with what Kark said. I don't believe the actions she took were really in town's best interest, mainly because I feel that she overstated the use of the Mason chat since alignment is guaranteed. Also, vouching could simply have been saying that his role was true not his alignment. I also believe in this lynch a heck of a lot more than the WAMD/Salva or Magnum lynch.
But one thing I'm thinking about in terms of roles. How many roles do you guys think scum have? Because I can't imagine that they have none, only thing that gives me pause since Sawneeks has no additional power.
I agree a lot with what Kark said. I don't believe the actions she took were really in town's best interest, mainly because I feel that she overstated the use of the Mason chat since alignment is guaranteed. Also, vouching could simply have been saying that his role was true not his alignment. I also believe in this lynch a heck of a lot more than the WAMD/Salva or Magnum lynch.
But one thing I'm thinking about in terms of roles. How many roles do you guys think scum have? Because I can't imagine that they have none, only thing that gives me pause since Sawneeks has no additional power.
StarSketch
Banned
If magnum takes the laptop and is promptly killed by Scum I mean. if he does something else and dies anyway then no loss here
As frustrating as its been to explain this situation to him I don't know if I would believe he is scum. Let me think on it.
I do find it interesting that shortly after I float the idea of Kark possibly being Scum in the Mason chat, Splinter then comes in suggesting he will go for Kark and we should maybe lynch him. If Kyan does end up being Scum I would suggest looking at Splinter as well.
Ask, and ye shall receive.
salvapot (3)
kalor 803
christina mackenzie 972
cornburrito 1012
nin1000 (0)
kalor (0)
magnumboy20xx (4)
kyanrute 932
el topo 945
ynnek7 1017
*splinter 1027
sawneeks (3)
karkador 946
stanleypalmtree 979
oceanicair 1040
karkador (2)
salvapot 996
starsketch 1020
I can understand why people want to lynch Magnum today but I can't get behind it. I'd rather lynch potential scum over an essentially confirmed neutral. It would mean we have to lynch scum over the next 2 days, giving us less leeway. I'll have to look over Kark's stuff since he's gaining some votes.
Karkador, Splinter and Kalor are my main suspects.
I am actually a bit worried about how Kalor pretty much dissipated, it sometimes feel like they are taking turns.
Ah, speaking of the devil.
Wait, when was Magnum confirmed? I may have missed that on me catching up to the game.
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
Also,
vote:karkador
I think your flip will help ton more than it would hurt them. Plus you're the reason I'm in this situation to begin with, so this may or may not be an OMGUS.
vote:karkador
I think your flip will help ton more than it would hurt them. Plus you're the reason I'm in this situation to begin with, so this may or may not be an OMGUS.
1 is reasonable then. Thankses.
Just to clarify, I am for Magnum lynch. I just wanted to show an issue with the number argument. But laying out the other problems with Magnum, well, it certainly does not hurt.