The "PS3 Has No Games" stigma - Why is it still going strong?

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TheDuce22 said:
If you have a 360 already there is very little on the PS3 worth owning. Thats why people still say it.
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This goes both ways. The HD consoles being essentially fungible goods basically gives Nintendo free product differentiation.
 
Xisiqomelir said:
This goes both ways. The HD consoles being essentially fungible goods basically gives Nintendo free product differentiation.
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Yes it does... but the OP said he asked a guy that already owns a 360. I agree if you have a ps3, there is not much reason to buy a 360, unless it has enough exclusives that justify it for you.
 
Kinitari said:
Taking that into consideration, wouldn't the investment in a machine that has games now, and will have more games in the future that will only be playable on that system, which is also very feature rich with non-gaming extra's be not-stupid? You can go out and buy 34 Shovelware titles on the Wii, or buy a Ps3 and 1 or 2 games and in my opinion (and probably the opinion of many) the Ps3 scenario would be a better investment.


Or what, am I just missing your point completely?
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Honestly, I think you're just a bit too egocentric. Not everyone has the time to own all three consoles and play all of their must have games. Hell, I'm not even sure if I have the time for both my Wii and 360. Between work, friends and my girlfriend, my gaming time has really taken a dive. Sure, I'll miss out on MGS4 and Final Fantasy XIII but I don't really care. I'll probably pick up a PS4 and get PS3 games that I missed out on.
 
ugh, I hate hearing people still say that the PS3 has no games... I own all 3 consoles and I have the most games for the PS3.
 
Blu-Ray? PS brand name? I have had a PS3 for over a year now, and I have a total of 4 games, and almost 50 BR movies. Compared to my 360 in which I have... 32 games.
 
Xisiqomelir said:
This goes both ways. The HD consoles being essentially fungible goods basically gives Nintendo free product differentiation.
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Well I disagree simply because PS3s exclusive library is pathetic compared to the 360. The only AAA titles are Resistance and Motorstorm IMO. At this point 360 has about 10-12 GREAT exclusives covering basically every genre.
 
omg rite said:
Warhawk and Eye of Judgement aren't interesting to me. I didn't like Motorstorm or Uncharted (especially Motorstorm -- Uncharted wasn't a bad game or anything).

MLB 08? I don't play realistic sports games. I never have. (Give me an exclusive NBA Jam though, and I'll bite!)

UTIII? Isn't that coming to 360 (not sure)? I'm not interested in it myself, but I would just wait for the 360 version. That's not exactly a game many people would buy a system for.

Ratchet? Love the series, I'll be getting it when I get the MGS4 bundle.
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While i respect your opinion, my point wasn't that these games would interest -you- in particular, it was in response to the (apparent) lack of PS3 exclusives. These are just the ones that have gotten 7.5+
 
muckhole said:
Maybe, as a 360 owner, he's not going to be interested in the multiplatform titles, and doesn't see enough that appeals to him in Sony's exclusive line-up at the moment to justify dropping $399. It isn't exactly small change.
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What this guy said. Especially since multiplatform games TREND (yes trend not tend) to run better on 360, has a better online system, and add in achievments (for whores, or people that like the extra challenges)
 
ymmv said:
The real issue is that this 360 centric perspective is turned into a general truth. It can be turned around just as easily if you already have a PS3 and see no reason buying a 360 for only a handful of upcoming interesting exclusives. If you're a last-gen gamer looking for an upgrade, it's patently untrue.
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Yes, but what establishes the perception for gamers looking to upgrade? Peer recommendations from gamers further up the enthusiast market, who have already upgraded - many of whom own Xbox 360s and either intentionally or unconsciously promote the perception of "no games" on PS3.

Everyone looking at the actual libraries is missing the point. It's not that the PS3 has no games, it's that it's been stuck with the label of "no games". Adding games to the library unfortunately does little to address this, it's incredibly difficult to shake by any means.
 
"Dude, the steak with mashed potatoes and cheese sauce is only 39.99!"

"Yeah, but I'm not hungry enough for a steak with mashed potatoes and cheese sauce."

"Dude, you're a total steak with mashed potatoes and gravy fanboy."
 
I personally think as a PS3 owner that it has no games, until they start rolling out games of my favorite genre, Japanese RPG's.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Honestly, I think you're just a bit too egocentric. Not everyone has the time to own all three consoles and play all of their must have games. Hell, I'm not even sure if I have the time for both my Wii and 360. Between work, friends and my girlfriend, my gaming time has really taken a dive. Sure, I'll miss out on MGS4 and Final Fantasy XIII but I don't really care. I'll probably pick up a PS4 and get PS3 games that I missed out on.
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Egocentric?

Edit: The rest of your post is understandable(ish). I mean, I don't quite grasp the concept of having time for one console, but not three (unless you have 3 games you HAVE to play at the same time or something). But again... I was talking about bang for your buck. It just seems... smarter to me, to invest in getting the -best- of all three consoles, rather than the crap -> the best of one.
 
Kinitari said:
While i respect your opinion, my point wasn't that these games would interest -you- in particular, it was in response to the (apparent) lack of PS3 exclusives. These are just the ones that have gotten 7.5+
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But that's not the point.

Most people look at 360's exclusive as more interesting than PS3's. Halo, GoW, Bioshock are more wanted and more interesting to -most- (not all) potential buyers than Warhawk, Uncharted, Eye of Judgment, and a new Ratchet game.

That doesn't mean those aren't are GOOD games. Don't get me wrong. But to the mainstream game-buying-public, they don't care about Warhawk or Ratchet. They want games like Call of Duty 4, which is on both systems. And if they get a 360, they can get games like Bioshock and Halo. That's just how most general game buyers think.

That is where the "PS3 has no games" comes from. It's not LITERAL. It's "PS3 doesn't have games that would make me buy it over/along with a 360".
 
shintoki said:
What about that makes you know what are they reffering too?

No games that interest them in general?-Maybe they only like Coop games
Most of the games being multiplatform?-They share like 80%
No exculsive games that interest them?-Couldn't care for R/c or Uncharted
What about no games that interest them currently?-Waiting for MGS4
All those can fall into No games remark.

Seems like a pretty vague statement that show more about the opinion of the people who respond to it, then the ones who actually said it.
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I really don't think you understand what I was saying in my first post you felt compelled to argue with, so I'll clarify it for you.

If you only own a 360, of course it's harder to justify your purchase of a PS3, because then you're only going to be considering exclusive games. That is what any smart consumer would do, no sane person faults anyone for that. The the thing is, that goes for any system now and forever. Put yourself in the shoes of a PS3 only owner (It's hard, I know, right?) immediately, there's then only a handful of reasons to own a 360.

But to say that the other system then has no games, when in all likelihood, you've been enjoying some of the games the other system has, you're both a hypocrite and a liar.

Your defense of the "PS3 has no games" as an umbrella term is laughable. If there's not many games that interest you, or no exclusive games that interest you, then say it that way. Otherwise, it means what it means.

And your last sentence, boy, what a doozy. Implying only Sony fanboys would take issue with the "PS3 has no games" line of thought. Might want to practice a little introspection there.
 
A lot of this is down to Sony marketing. Sony has to be willing to market against the natural tendency of network effects driven markets to favor the product with the greater LTD on the market.
 
islewarrior said:
here we go again , as gta5 launch gets closer and closer the more crap threads like this will start to appear. for some reason 360 fanboys have that stink of fear that somehow the ps3 will become the system of choice and their purchase of the 360 becomes a bad investment.
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I'm definitely smelling something today.
 
omg rite said:
But that's not the point.

Most people look at 360's exclusive as more interesting than PS3's. Halo, GoW, Bioshock are more wanted and more interesting to -most- (not all) potential buyers than Warhawk, Uncharted, Eye of Judgment, and a new Ratchet game.

That doesn't mean those aren't are GOOD games. Don't get me wrong. But to the mainstream game-buying-public, they don't care about Warhawk or Ratchet. They want games like Call of Duty 4, which is on both systems. And if they get a 360, they can get games like Bioshock and Halo. That's just how most general game buyers think.

That is where the "PS3 has no games" comes from. It's not LITERAL. It's "PS3 doesn't have games that would make me buy it over/along with a 360".
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But that was -my- point.

A bit of a generalization/assumption, but i'll give it to you. But even then, that doesn't have much to do with this entire thread. If someone ALREADY has a 360, chances are they have those games you mentioned, so its not like they have to choose one or the other. And for a new potential buyer, I can understand your point. But something else to take into consideration is that pretty much all 360 games that are getting praised are also available on PC, or they will be soon. So if someone has a PC already that can handle those games, that probably takes away a dramatic amount of incentive to purchase a 360... but now im just arguing hypotheticals.
 
PS3 has lots of great games, but presently fewer top quality console exclusives than Xbox 360, and multi-platform titles are still generally better on Xbox 360.

PS3 is selling better regardless.
 
mildewproduction said:
What this guy said. Especially since multiplatform games TREND (yes trend not tend) to run better on 360, has a better online system, and add in achievments (for whores, or people that like the extra challenges)
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don't forget rumble...
 
Sorry, but as long as Sony delays Home and in-game XMB the 360 is going to lavish in the perception of being the "system to buy for" on multiplatform titles. LIVE is a compelling system, and a great tool for building loyal customers. The guy that says "I'm on my 4th 360 is living proof that LIVE works. It's that simple.

Anyone can see that there are plenty of great games to play for the PS3...walk into a game store or fucking use Google for that matter. Sony would be well served to open up to the public, start advertising where they are going with the PS3 and get the ball rolling towards rebuilding the loyalty they have lost since the PS2. They've got to offer at least as much or more than the other guy does, if they want to shed the "360 version as the purchase of choice".
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
I personally think as a PS3 owner that it has no games, until they start rolling out games of my favorite genre, Japanese RPG's.
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I agree it's in dire need of a rpg overhaul. I also hope that when the psn store is updated next month, it's updated with all of the ps1 games that the japan store has and more.
 
Jaeyden said:
Sorry, but as long as Sony delays Home and in-game XMB the 360 is going to lavish in the perception of being the "system to buy for" on multiplatform titles. LIVE is a compelling system, and a great tool for building loyal customers. The guy that says "I'm on my 4th 360 is living proof that LIVE works. It's that simple.
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At this point, Home/XMB doesn't matter to many, because they'll get the version of a game that most of their friends have so they can play together. That will probably always be the 360 version for most games.
 
muckhole said:
Maybe, as a 360 owner, he's not going to be interested in the multiplatform titles, and doesn't see enough that appeals to him in Sony's exclusive line-up at the moment to justify dropping $399. It isn't exactly small change.
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Kinitari said:
Egocentric?

Edit: The rest of your post is understandable(ish). I mean, I don't quite grasp the concept of having time for one console, but not three (unless you have 3 games you HAVE to play at the same time or something). But again... I was talking about bang for your buck. It just seems... smarter to me, to invest in getting the -best- of all three consoles, rather than the crap -> the best of one.
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:lol

I love Sony fanboys.
 
Choke on the Magic said:
I agree it's in dire need of a rpg overhaul. I also hope that when the psn store is updated next month, it's updated with all of the ps1 games that the japan store has and more.
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I do like game announcement like Valkyria Chronicles, White Knight Story, FF13, and FFvs13, but I also like a steady stream of information along with those announcement.

Valkyria Chronicles is the only one that does this, with website updates every thursday.
 
Evander said:
don't forget rumble...
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yeah...

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The 360 -only- owner is a different beast.

To him the PS3 doesn't have a lot of games. All multiplatform games are old news to him. He's not looking to buy another system to play games he already has access to.

If Resistance and Warhawk and Rachet & Clank were really important enough to him he would have bought a PS3 by now. No amount of convincing at this point will get someone like that to buy a PS3 until the list of exclusives becomes too big to ignore. Let's be fair, those 3 games just aren't Halo or MGS. People buy systems to play Halo and FFXII.

Still, the PS3 is getting there. While the Wii will always be the LOL system, the PS3 will eventually get to the point that it has an exclusive library that even 360 system warriors will respect. Hopefully once that happens perhaps the SDF will have the self-confidence to not insist on slamming the 360 every chance they get.

Either way, hopefully your system pushing hasn't extended too far into your RL. It is kinda creepy.
 
Xisiqomelir said:
This goes both ways. The HD consoles being essentially fungible goods basically gives Nintendo free product differentiation.
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Free product differentiation??? Wait until the release of GTA4 and WiiFit ... media coverage will be awesome to watch...


On the topic... what happens to the ps3 is the same with GC... everyone told me back then when they knew i had one : " bu bu but the gamecube has no games"
 
Kinitari said:
So.... getting the best exclusives of all 3 consoles = Sony Fanboyism now? Like... am I just misunderstanding you?
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The term "best" is subjective. Whats best for you is certainly not the best for another. Also, I'd like to see your list of all releases for this generation.
 
jonabbey said:
A lot of this is down to Sony marketing. Sony has to be willing to market against the natural tendency of network effects driven markets to favor the product with the greater LTD on the market.
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And fans doing the constant "wait for..." thing.

If you doubt the effect of it, just look at all the avatars and list wars that feature games that are not even close to being on the market.
(some even only rumored :| )

Same thing happens with the Wii defense force, but at least those don't need to go on and on about it. Their console happens to be leading after all.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
The term "best" is subjective. Whats best for you is certainly not the best for another. Also, I'd like to see your list of all releases for this generation.
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He's talking about owning all 3 consoles and not settling for the best of a single console.
 
Felix Lighter said:
He's talking about owning all 3 consoles and not settling for the best of a single console.
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I guess I missed that but my original point still stands. I don't have the time for 3 consoles. Being butthurt because the PS3 is the odd one out for this gen is just plain silly.
 
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TheDuce22 said:
If you have a 360 already there is very little on the PS3 worth owning. Thats why people still say it.
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Sony fans:

If you have a PS3 or a PC already there is very little on the 360 worth owning.
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Unbiased:

There are enough good games on both that are worth owning.
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Of course, this thread seems to be full of the first group, which is now bitter for some reason.
 
Well I just bought one with Resistence. I'm currently playing Growlanser 3 on it and am awaiting rachet and Clank to come in the mail. I'm not really seeing any " must own, gotta beat it as soon as I get it" titles out there currently on the shelves.

I'm calmly waiting for Disgaea 3 to release. I merely bought one right now becuase I couldn't pass up on a 250 dollar PS3.
 
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