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Just curious...are these the same girl? (when she was younger)

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Kak.efes said:
They brought the Rock back to fight some wannabe rapper named Cena? .. The Miz? The champion is some guy named the Miz?

Someone fill me in on whats been happening in wrestling for the last ten years.

God there's soo much, it's just not possible.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
There's no official DVD collection or anything covering the best of the Attitude era is there? Storylines and matches from both the weekly shows and the PPVs.

They are starting to release Season DVD's, and they have other wrestler collections but they all suck ass.

DVD's that are entirely old matches and stuff are censored and dubbed over piles of crap. Cussing? Gone. Entrance music? Dubbed over with generic garbage so they don't have to pay a rights fee. etc.

Documentaries on the other hand are amazing. The behind the scenes stuff and one on one interviews are all magical.
 
Yousefb said:
haha I've never seen heel Santino
"can of the ass whoop being opened" lool

You missed some awesomeness. That video's missing the part where Santino threw the DVD on the ground and put it out like a cigarette.
 
I might watch the WWE again now that The Rock is back. Cena fans (any left?) should be happy this isn't a heel Rock taking him on. Face Rock is still gonna verbally pummel Cena but a heel Rocky would absolutely bury him.

I've been trying to figure out why the return. He doesn't need the money. Vince couldn't afford to pay him anything close to what he makes on movies. He doesn't really need the work either as he has plenty of movies. We can laugh at his Disney movies like The Tooth Fairy but that actually pulled in a decent amount worldwide. Maybe he really is coming back because he loves the WWE. Hogan and Austin might be ranked ahead of him overall, but in terms of embodying the whole package between wrestling and entertainment no one does it better. Rock is the perfect symbol for what WWE stands.

I haven't watched wrestling the last five years, and my main concern is there anyone who can even hang with him? Austin and Hogan are icons and heel Rock helped make both of them even more famous than what they were. The quality of the opponent really goes down when we look at Cena and then the rest of the WWE roster.
 
Damn... Last time I watched the WWE was when it was the WWF. The Rock being back might make me pay attention again.
 
Just heard The Rock is back in WWE

I haven't watched wrestling since Brock Lesnar was the big champion back in the day, what old school wrestlers are still in wrestling. Is Stone Cold still at WWE?
 
KAL2006 said:
Just heard The Rock is back in WWE

I haven't watched wrestling since Brock Lesnar was the big champion back in the day, what old school wrestlers are still in wrestling. Is Stone Cold still at WWE?
Not currently, but Stone Cold will be the host of the new season of Tough Enough. I believe that starts in a few weeks.
 
If my WWE watching days serve me well Austin make a quiet exit from the show after being out of action for long stretches of time due to knee surgeries, I think.

If true, that really doesn't bode well for his return.
 
Kak.efes said:
They brought the Rock back to fight some wannabe rapper named Cena? .. The Miz? The champion is some guy named the Miz?

Someone fill me in on whats been happening in wrestling for the last ten years.

Cena is no longer a wannabe rapper. He's now a slightly updated version of Hulk Hogan, and just as bland. He started off as a wannabe rapper when he was heel. His raps were so funny that they started getting over. Eventually he turned face (because the crowd cheered so much), and dropped the rapping and over-the-top thug thing. He did keep some of the grittier references to hip hop culture in his promos and attitude though, and there was a time between 2005 and 2006 when he was actually legitimately popular and pretty entertaining.

Two problems. First of all, the WWE roster was pretty thin back then, so there weren't many bad guys that people really cared about to put against Cena. They saved HHH and Jericho for the big PPVs, but even they were almost on the cusp of being faces themselves at that point. The second problem was that WWE wanted to start skewing younger, and Cena, being the face of the company, had to go really kid friendly. No edgy promos, no overtly aggressive actions, nothing. Just basically 'I'll never quit' - that was his character, and he brought out a bunch of new, boring catchphrases.

Kids love him. Women love his body. Everybody else hates him. He is however, by all accounts, a really decent guy in person and somebody that loves the company and the business and will do whatever he can to help it.



The Miz calls himself that cause it's the first syllable in a last name that's absurdly difficult to pronounce. Miz is actually an interesting character, because he was on some reality tv show at one point, and then we went on the WWE's reality tv show Tough Enough.

So naturally people figured he was just some reality show whore trying to get as much out of the genre as he could before it fizzled out and people stopped caring. But it turns out, the guy was actually a huge wrestling fan, worked his ass off, and while he didn't win, he still got a contract.

His character is pretty funny, he's basically a delusional narcissist who thinks he's the greatest thing ever. His catch phrase is 'I'm the Miz, and I'm AWESOME' which is so ridiculously stupid that OBVIOUSLY the crowd ate it up.

As is usually the case, the champ is the guy that is getting most reaction of either type (positive or negative). Miz has been getting more and more heat every month he's been on television. He's kind of like Jericho in that he gets over even when he loses. So obviously he's being positioned to take on the biggest face in the company, Cena. Who kids and women love but pretty much everybody else hates.

That's a rough summary of the two.
 
Yousefb said:
haha I've never seen heel Santino
"can of the ass whoop being opened" lool

I didn't even know Santino was a face now. Why the hell did they turn him face? He's like, the epitome of what a heel should be (foreign, talks kinda funny, hates America).

Like most people in here, I haven't watched WWE in years. I think the last time I watched was when Jimmy Kimmel's Cousin Sal was going to wrestle Santino. The Rock coming back will definitely make me watch again, though.
 
Atlagev said:
I didn't even know Santino was a face now. Why the hell did they turn him face? He's like, the epitome of what a heel should be (foreign, talks kinda funny, hates America).

Like most people in here, I haven't watched WWE in years. I think the last time I watched was when Jimmy Kimmel's Cousin Sal was going to wrestle Santino. The Rock coming back will definitely make me watch again, though.

That's one of the interesting things about pro wrestling - the writers only have so much control. If the fans love a performer or a character so much that they start cheering for him, then the writers can't keep putting him in a heel role, cause it will only hurt the face he's being put up against.

Santino was turned face on account of fans cheering the hell out of the guy cause he was so hilarious.

Same reason Randy Orton was turned face. Likewise for Edge (twice).

Unfortunately for the latter two, the elements that MADE those characters popular in the first place were quickly stripped out in accordance with WWE's unofficial 'babyfaces must be excellent role models' mandate. The only exception was for when Jericho needed to be written off the show...then Randy Orton was allowed to get his career-ending head-kicking mojo on in face mode.
 
krae_man said:
They are starting to release Season DVD's, and they have other wrestler collections but they all suck ass.

DVD's that are entirely old matches and stuff are censored and dubbed over piles of crap. Cussing? Gone. Entrance music? Dubbed over with generic garbage so they don't have to pay a rights fee. etc.

Documentaries on the other hand are amazing. The behind the scenes stuff and one on one interviews are all magical.

Man that's so shitty. I'd kill for uncensored, full years of RAW/Smackdown on Bluray/DVD during the attitude era.

I heard there were some uncut DVDs in the UK. Anyone have them? Are they any good?
 
Im certainly tuning in every week for the Rock. Consider WM ordered for Dwayne. Rockamania more like!

Austin, Rock, Foley beating down Nexus and the entire WWE would be cool. Make it happen Vince
 
While we're on the topic of Rock memories, I still remember the moment that the 'Rocky sucks' chants that had been going on since 1996 changed to chants of simply, 'Rocky'.

SummerSlam 1998, MSG, ladder match with HHH.

Rocky was giving as good as he was getting, and doing it with the kind of swagger that stars are made of.

New York crowds are always a little ahead of the curve (it seems) when it comes to the next wave (they were the ones who booed Bret Hart and cheered Stone Cold at Survivor Series 2 years earlier), but in this case, I think they just happened to be in attendance for the moment when everybody figured out 'hey, this guy is pretty fucking awesome'.
 
I stopped watching wrestling around 2001 because I lost interest in it, but The Rock was always one of my favorites. Just a highly entertaining dude. I still remember when he came in as blue-chipper Rocky Maivia.

The whole John Cena/Batista/whatever era is completely alien to me.
 
Lebron said:
And now, everyone is talking about WWE again. Rocky does what Cena can't.

Yeah, haha I know this is too much but I'm praying for some sort of revolution here. Once the people get another taste of the people's champ how will they be able to go back to this shit:

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I just can't believe how many former fans Vince brought back with just one signing. This makes me think there is hope for the WWE now.
 
brianjones said:
truth

i could never understand how wrestling games kept getting worse after that

Being as to play are the referee and do the fast count or slow count on your friends was fucking gold.

That shit (behind only Gauntlet notifying us of who exactly shot the food) was the biggest troll injection into gaming.

That had to have broken up friendships.

It had to.
 
deVIZtator said:
I just can't believe how many former fans Vince brought back with just one signing. This makes me think there is hope for the WWE now.

He didn't sign anyone, he's just there for WM. He's not wrestling or even there on a semi-regular basis.
 
Jin34 said:
He didn't sign anyone, he's just there for WM. He's not wrestling or even there on a semi-regular basis.
I thought I heard talk of him just being backstage now. Nonetheless, everyone marked out.
 
Kak.efes said:
They brought the Rock back to fight some wannabe rapper named Cena? .. The Miz? The champion is some guy named the Miz?

Someone fill me in on whats been happening in wrestling for the last ten years.

The biggest heels in the company are Eddie Guerrero's wife and Michael Cole.
 
deVIZtator said:
I thought I heard talk of him just being backstage now. Nonetheless, everyone marked out.

I didn't get the speech of never leaving and being back, made a lot of ppl come to the wrong conclusion.
 
The Antitype said:
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This gives me so many wonderful flashbacks of late 1997.

Young, obnoxious, over-sexed, under-disciplined HBK was so awesome. I'm sure he was a fucking nightmare to work with, but my god his subversive energy roared out of the television.
Tell me about it. Michaels was hands down the most charismatic and creative wrestler there has ever been. Sorry Rock fans. As much as I appreciated The Rock in the beginning, his act and one liners became so repetitive I could barely stand it when he came on screen anymore. One of my favorite matches in WWF history is Hogan vs. Rock at Wrestlemania, simply because his shtick had become so old at that point that after years of sounding like a broken record, the fans finally started to boo him.

The Rock was really entertaining early on starting as a heel and during the first few months or so of him becoming a crowd favorite, but he just wasn't able to stay fresh and come up with new material.
 
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