Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The Shuttle from Trider makes a good resupplier because its full upgrade bonus is that it doesn't reduce Morale after resupplying!
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The Super Robot Wars Z2 |OT| The Last Bastion of Sprite Animation (56k watch out)
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Shouta said:
Do they consider the sequels of certain shows "new titles"?
fffffuuu, stage 20 was HARD. I had a perfect SR point run going until that stage, but 10+ bosses and grunts in 3 turns?? No thanks. Just getting through it alive after everyone's SP ran out and everyone's hit % against these bosses were <50% was challenging enough.
Was surprised they changed that scenario from OO S1 and didn't have
. Oh well, I'm sure they'll come any map now.
Still been doing all the routes up until now, so about 38 maps cleared total so far. Must have logged in 40-50 hours already in a week on the game. Great stuff. A little burned out, but totally enjoying it.
Was surprised they changed that scenario from OO S1 and didn't have
The thrones appear to save Setsuna from Ali spiderbot
Still been doing all the routes up until now, so about 38 maps cleared total so far. Must have logged in 40-50 hours already in a week on the game. Great stuff. A little burned out, but totally enjoying it.
bloody hell i still haven't finish the damn game, how many chapters are there? Im at 45
on a side note, sales numbers!
http://www.mechadamashii.com/news/news-super-robot-wars-z-2-tops-charts/
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34217/Latest_Super_Robot_Wars_Dominates_Japanese_Sales_Chart.php
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lol the sales number was from a gaf thread...
gaf > internet > gaf
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427946
on a side note, sales numbers!
http://www.mechadamashii.com/news/news-super-robot-wars-z-2-tops-charts/
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34217/Latest_Super_Robot_Wars_Dominates_Japanese_Sales_Chart.php
edit:
lol the sales number was from a gaf thread...
gaf > internet > gaf
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427946
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
51 actually
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
jling84 said:
It has on Wonderswan games. I think you can recruit many from that series.
HaRyu said:
make sure your main damage dealers have aced, especially Mazinger (kabuto) and Shin getta (Ryoma), they practically gets 20, 30% damage boosts at 130morale. but my real damage dealer is Chirico, he's one insane fucker, there was one time i got him down to 73 health and with his potential L9 kicking in he was dissing out 20k+ crits on bosses, this is without any seishin command, with soul he could one shoot bosses with less than 50k hp. Whats funny is that he hasn't even reached his full potential yet, his first skill is still ????s.
hteng said:
Oddly enough, I only have 2 Aces (Crowe and Shimon). I'm not having any trouble with the whole stage, just that one last unit. I'm just not causing enough damage. Best I can do is bring it down to about 75%. Of course, all the times I managed to do that, that 25% damage was done all on Turn 5, and only by about six units or so.
My main problem is by the time I have to start attacking that last unit, most of my forces are scattered all over the place, and they just won't make it in time. So right now, its more of a matter of strategic deployment and positioning, and trying to rush through all the enemy units so that I can at least start my attacks on Turn 4, not the Turn 5.
Ookami-kun said:
Compact 3 was great, had Betterman in it too.
Pureauthor
Member
Is that the Dark Continent route you're one, HaRyu?
Makes sense that ol'
would be a tough one.
Makes sense that ol'
Lordgenome
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
He's not that hard if you already have morale down spell. He goes down quite easily in a single turn if you play your cards right.
Pureauthor said:
Ookami-kun said:
??? Uhh... no?
I'm on Stage 45,
"Little Queen". Its the Macross F stage.
The stage you guys are talking about is Stage 44. That was one was quite easy.
EDIT: Ookami, are we thinking of the same enemy unit, or are you thinking Stage 44 too?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah I was replying to the post above me XD
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Shouta said:
Actually that's Chirico's ace bonus. A fully-upgraded Scopedog means higher critical rates.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You still need to have him kill a lot though, then again that's not much of a problem.
He also gets Soul too which means 2.5 damage instead of just 2.
He also gets Soul too which means 2.5 damage instead of just 2.
Sseklebeast
Member
My Chirico with full hp crits for 13-20k without Soul. I only wish he got hit so I could take advantage of ???? and Prevail. That's with his Scopedog fully upgraded, Predict and Ignore Size ( forgot exactly what parts I gave him ) and I upgraded his range attack stats a bit too. He's such a beast.
*edit*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFGpaVJckh8 Vid I uploaded ~ much <3
*edit*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFGpaVJckh8 Vid I uploaded ~ much <3
Pureauthor
Member
Ookami-kun said:
Most reals get Soul instead of Hotblood more recently, and vice versa.
Akagi being the exception of course.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Pureauthor said:
Prolly to balance it out. Though Amuro has Hotblood, but then again Nu's almost like a Super anyway lol
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HaRyu said:
First choice = fight for peace, fight him as him.
second choice = fight because you want to fight. He then asks if you mean it. Yes or no. Yes means he goes all serious with higher stats and levels.
second choice = fight because you want to fight. He then asks if you mean it. Yes or no. Yes means he goes all serious with higher stats and levels.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HaRyu said:
The first one
Sseklebeast
Member
Is it true that the second choice is based on how many SR points you attained? I mean if you do not have a certain amount of points then nothing will change as far as stats are concerned?
Sseklebeast said:
Bah, I wish you had mentioned that earlier, I would have bothered to check (since I have all the SR points).
And yay me! I have finished the game.
Oh, and tip for those who haven't done the last stage yet, you don't get penalized for losing non-essential units on the last stage (aka, you don't end up paying for them). Was so far into the last stage, I had to sacrifice a few units. I hate doing that...
Pureauthor
Member
I believe you need to be on hard mode for that.
Also, Haran Banjou succeeds in frightening Lordgenome. Awesome.
Also, Haran Banjou succeeds in frightening Lordgenome. Awesome.
Now that I'm about halfway (stage 27, so a little over), I need to get something off my chest:
this game is a little boring.
The game is a good srw and from the gameplay-side it's great with all the unique units/FUBs/challenging SR points, lots of maps. The sub-order system is awesome and I love how you get SO MUCH MONEY in this game compared to other SRWs. In my 8 or so SRWs I've finished, I've never fully upgraded a single unit by the end of the game and got their bonus. Because of the money situation here, I'm getting close to FUB on ~3-4 units already by halfway through. That's really cool. From the visual/audio side it's also very good.
But story/pacing-wise. I'm halfway through the game and nothing ever happens. Spoilers for the first half of the game:
I notice this a lot because I've been playing Alpha 3 this year and I'm around the same % through (halfway) and all this stuff has happened in that game already: (spoilers for first half of alpha 3)
The point is that I can remember far more events from the first half of Alpha 3, a game I haven't played for 2-3 months now than I can remember from the first half of Z2-1, a game I've been playing daily for a week and a half now.
It just feels like nothing's happened besides introducing the shows and one OG plot event.
I dunno if I should blame this on splitting the story across 2 games, thus making half of Z2-1 only the first 25% of the story. Which in that case still begs the question of do you really need 40-50 maps for each quarter of the story? Because that's really going to stretch things out and cause dragging.
Or if the problem arises from the show selection and them just picking a bunch of anime series where NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE PLOT for a large chunk of it. It could just be that all the mecha anime lately is monster of the day/mission of the day, and no decent plot arcs occuring anymore. don't know.
All I know is that I'm hoping the last half of this game has a lot more exciting stuff happening and if that doesn't come to fruition, well then I guess I'll hope that Z2-2 is faster paced with lots of events happening throughout. In that doesn't happen either, well then I'll just be a bit disappointed in the Z2 saga overall. But that's a lot of ifs, so hopefully the Z2 saga just has a REALLY slow intro. Right now while I like the gameplay and sprites, I'd rank Z2-1 below Alpha 2/3/Z1/OG2 and somewhere around the DS games like W/K.
this game is a little boring.
The game is a good srw and from the gameplay-side it's great with all the unique units/FUBs/challenging SR points, lots of maps. The sub-order system is awesome and I love how you get SO MUCH MONEY in this game compared to other SRWs. In my 8 or so SRWs I've finished, I've never fully upgraded a single unit by the end of the game and got their bonus. Because of the money situation here, I'm getting close to FUB on ~3-4 units already by halfway through. That's really cool. From the visual/audio side it's also very good.
But story/pacing-wise. I'm halfway through the game and nothing ever happens. Spoilers for the first half of the game:
Even doing all the routes, so ~40-50 maps by now, after the great initial 5 or 6 recreating all the ep1s from the new shows, the only events I can even remember happening were the map13 fuji hostage situation with zero, the map19 godmars event with his brother, the map20 big army battle from Gundam OO ep15/16, and the map 24 OG plot halfway point. There was also the kokubougar dai-guard map I guess.
The other 30-40 maps have just been a bunch of dimensional monsters showing up, or Ashura showing up with 1 new Dr. Hell mecha that has 1 attack and you beat it and he runs away again, or a bunch of Invaders showing up, or Viral showing up and yelling a bit and then running away again, or Votoms mercs showing up and blowing up in 1 hit, Zechs or Graham army showing up to fight a gundam and then blowing up and running away; same with Ali.
It's just not particularly hot blooded or exciting outside a few hot blooded exciting maps.
The other 30-40 maps have just been a bunch of dimensional monsters showing up, or Ashura showing up with 1 new Dr. Hell mecha that has 1 attack and you beat it and he runs away again, or a bunch of Invaders showing up, or Viral showing up and yelling a bit and then running away again, or Votoms mercs showing up and blowing up in 1 hit, Zechs or Graham army showing up to fight a gundam and then blowing up and running away; same with Ali.
It's just not particularly hot blooded or exciting outside a few hot blooded exciting maps.
I notice this a lot because I've been playing Alpha 3 this year and I'm around the same % through (halfway) and all this stuff has happened in that game already: (spoilers for first half of alpha 3)
Besides the show intros, you have Dancougar destroying the enemy base in NY, the entire 2nd half of GGG TV with the primevals being introduced, destroying GGG hq, invading orbital base, combining on the moon, J-ark, mamoru's past, the professor's death, ZA POWER, the Z-master, then the final TV ep on earth. Phew, yeah so a lot of GGG events. You also have Ideon's intro + arc when it goes to the space colony, event where one the early main badguys gets killed, the entire early arcs of SEED including intro, space colony, decent to earth, desert tiger art with hot dog eating, orb, kagari/athrun getting shot down together, Mac 7 intro + bad guy bringing back flying demon chick and chasing her around, the entire end of the Mac Plus story complete with Sharon Apple vs. Basara music battle, and probably other stuff I'm forgetting. Plus all the OG plot like taking out the 1st platoon on Mars. And the various platoons and OG characters interacting.
The point is that I can remember far more events from the first half of Alpha 3, a game I haven't played for 2-3 months now than I can remember from the first half of Z2-1, a game I've been playing daily for a week and a half now.
It just feels like nothing's happened besides introducing the shows and one OG plot event.
I dunno if I should blame this on splitting the story across 2 games, thus making half of Z2-1 only the first 25% of the story. Which in that case still begs the question of do you really need 40-50 maps for each quarter of the story? Because that's really going to stretch things out and cause dragging.
Or if the problem arises from the show selection and them just picking a bunch of anime series where NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE PLOT for a large chunk of it. It could just be that all the mecha anime lately is monster of the day/mission of the day, and no decent plot arcs occuring anymore. don't know.
All I know is that I'm hoping the last half of this game has a lot more exciting stuff happening and if that doesn't come to fruition, well then I guess I'll hope that Z2-2 is faster paced with lots of events happening throughout. In that doesn't happen either, well then I'll just be a bit disappointed in the Z2 saga overall. But that's a lot of ifs, so hopefully the Z2 saga just has a REALLY slow intro. Right now while I like the gameplay and sprites, I'd rank Z2-1 below Alpha 2/3/Z1/OG2 and somewhere around the DS games like W/K.
Sseklebeast
Member
HaRyu said:
Hey Prinny! I just found out on Sunday ( the day I finished it )
otherwise I would have mentioned it.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Bebpo said:
That's because @3 is like the best SRW ever
Sseklebeast
Member
I like your AVs Ookami-kun.
I'd say wait for Z2-2 to see how series storylines playout there Bebpo.
I'd say wait for Z2-2 to see how series storylines playout there Bebpo.
I wouldn't call Alpha 3 being the best one ever (Alpha Gaiden is my favorite), but the plot lines in Alpha 3 seemed more haphazard that the other Alpha games. Probably because it was the last one, and it tried to fix any plot inconsistencies generated by the previous games, and some rather far-fetched (but commendable) explanations of how certain series came to even be in Alpha 3 (like explaining why EVA is back, or how the hell the Excellion managed to make it out of that black hole bomb blast from the end of Alpha 1, or even why Virtua On was in it). Its been a while, but I think they also repeated plot lines that were taken care of already in previous games.
Z2.1's plot was fairly straightforward, but for the most part, logical. Although someone needs to explain to me why there's people living underground in this world (GL).
Z2.1's plot was fairly straightforward, but for the most part, logical. Although someone needs to explain to me why there's people living underground in this world (GL).
So the wiki says to get
you need to destroy the stage 27 MD with Crowe. What's a good strat for this? Even with Almost every other dm killed by turn 3 my Crowe doesn't have enough morale for AP Phase, and grand sniper only does about <3K damage and I need to do 5-6k and support attacks seem stuck at around 2k. That thing has a high DEF on hard. Missed it on my first run if the map on the Gurren route. Have two more shots with the other routes, so want to get it with one. Although I'd rather use my 24-27 gurren route as my main save because I worked my ass off to get some more kills for simone, since I didn't realize I'd been killing everything in the first 20 stages with kamina I really want Simone to hit ACE status by the end, but he only had like 13 kills by map 24 split and for some reason even if I throw GL out in front of my party to get counter-kills, all the enemies ignore him and move toward smaller/weaker units >_<
marguerite
I really want Simone to hit ACE status by the end, but he only had like 13 kills by map 24 split and for some reason even if I throw GL out in front of my party to get counter-kills, all the enemies ignore him and move toward smaller/weaker units >_<Bebpo said:So the wiki says to getyou need to destroy the stage 27 MD with Crowe. What's a good strat for this? Even with Almost every other dm killed by turn 3 my Crowe doesn't have enough morale for AP Phase, and grand sniper only does about <3K damage and I need to do 5-6k and support attacks seem stuck at around 2k. That thing has a high DEF on hard. Missed it on my first run if the map on the Gurren route. Have two more shots with the other routes, so want to get it with one. Although I'd rather use my 24-27 gurren route as my main save because I worked my ass off to get some more kills for simone, since I didn't realize I'd been killing everything in the first 20 stages with kaminamarguerite
I don't think the wiki is right about that. The only thing I did that matched up w/ the wiki was that one Convince. I don't remember doing all those things that the wiki said. I was under the impression that it was Skill Points that dictated that secret (and a Convince).
Hmmm, yeah it seems like the wikis are just listing the absolute minimum, "if you do everything listed you'll have to get it", and some may be unnecesary. Will be nice when the official guide book comes out and clears it up, but I'll probably be long done with the game by then
Still going to attempt all the stuff they say on my try with the map. I don't care that much about recruiting, but if it might affect z2-2, then I want it just in case.
Still going to attempt all the stuff they say on my try with the map. I don't care that much about recruiting, but if it might affect z2-2, then I want it just in case.