PJV3
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There's no point worrying until September or earlier if Tory plans become clearer.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM
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There's no point worrying until September or earlier if Tory plans become clearer.
If the EU invoked a50 on our behalf then that would be one of the greatest betrayals of sovereignty seen in the last 50 years.
It is not a legally binding referendum and we are trying to get a new government sorted.
I must admit, I'm not massively pleased with how Europe has reacted to this, although it is understandable that they are pissed off, we are a sovereign nation and contribute massively to the EU budget and run a large trade deficit with it.
It is not a legally binding referendum and we are trying to get a new government sorted.
I must admit, I'm not massively pleased with how Europe has reacted to this, although it is understandable that they are pissed off, we are a sovereign nation and contribute massively to the EU budget and run a large trade deficit with it.
That thought process is poison and one of the major reasons our political parties suck. It encourages bad political practice. I vote for people I want representing me in Parliament, not so a team wins or loses
agree - i voted for them that election too (for the first time ever, always Labout until that point) and they screwed us well and proper for a sniff of power.
The famous "Power tends to corrupt" quote is very apt for what happened, you could see it in motion....you could see it on Nick Cleggs face
Funky Papa
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some people are actually happy if the UK leaves the EU because UK was known for blocking some reformations and that they insisted on their "special deals". Having better deals than all of the other members but usually the only country to keep complaining.
Imho the public EU opinion about the #Brexit slowly changes from "shocked" to "¯\_(ツ_/¯" with all those news in the last days.
On the plus side, the TTIP is now probably DOA in the EU.
Let's see what kind of deal the UK gets if it has to negotiate its own transatlantic trade arrangement with America. I bet Boris is great at deals. Very good deals. The best deals.
There was no way that Labour/LD would have worked though, it would still have been a minority government. LDs had a choice between a strong government in a time of financial crisis (even if it was a Tory one), and a government that would suffer a fight to pass every single piece of legislation, whether or not they were a part of it
FTSE250 is holding basically. It's likely to stay this low until significant things happen like job losses and restructuring, or recovering by staying in the EU. FTSE100 is mostly enjoying the fact that most of the big countries are doing fine as they have global presence.
PJV3
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It's shit, but until we get PR or marginals disappear it's what it is.
HazySaiyan
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Well then crisis averted! /s
AHA-Lambda
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Fernando Fernandez
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The Lib Dems did a good job in Government with Clegg especially, keeping the Tories going full Tory.
CyclopsRock
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Well, Labour can get fucked...
And outside of my brother's place there is a bunch of this:
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People are a bit harsh after he failed to impress at Chelsea but he's been great since he moved back to Athletico.
Not a Tory voter and fully agree with this.
They were saying he is getting a lot of attention from MP's as they want to be on his cabinet
Funky Papa
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The EU is being much more polite and germane than I thought it'd be.
They basically told the UK to sort their shit out before holding any talks. They want certainty and formality so they can work on the exit strategy like grown ups, which is a heck of a lot more than what the UK is currently offering.
Hell, they even let their biggest detractor stand up and talk nonsense even after the country he was from voted to leave.
ConservativeHome has May 29% and Boris on 28% in their survey of members.
AHA-Lambda
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May as PM...
I'd wake up and think "what the bloody hell has happened..."
Nigel Farage would say a bunch of sexist stuff and yet gain more support. Trump gets more support as UK is fucked under the helm of a woman.
Darkest Timeline.
Despite that, why do I get the feeling that she's at the very least better suited than Boris as PM? Oh yeah, because while she's vile she didn't lie through her damn teeth.
BreezyLimbo
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Well, Labour can get fucked...
And outside of my brother's place there is a bunch of this:
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And then there is UKIP sooooo...
I think the only sane choice left are my homies the libdems. It's a shame Nick Clegg is screwed over politically.
Damn Banksy at it again
Have to agree with you. They stopped the tories going full tory and managed to get things like the personal allowance up among others.
Yeah half of them voted to put the student fees up, but a) that wasn't why I voted for them and b) i have to wonder what they had to bargain for to get what they did.
If another election came along tomorrow I'd vote for them again.
PJV3
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They never should have let them in then, Tory austerity has been killing smaller communities, councils, local NHS services, employment. I'd rather they had another vote if nobody could form a government. It was a power grab pure and simple.
Yes they held a leash on the Tories somewhat. But that is like giving a small child the leash of a great dane and hoping for the best in my opinion
AHA-Lambda
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Oh no one wants him, but i'd say May is worse
Plus he'd basically burn down the country right about now which is deserved
Not me, the guy is dangerous, but the alternative is?
accel
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SymbiantXenos
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A deal that'll be everything that is eu membership with none of the say.
The end of the united kingdom as we see it today.
An unelected PM with a choice between an absolute idiot or thatcher mk II.
A round of applause for the leave vote ladies and gentlemen
The end of the united kingdom as we see it today.
An unelected PM with a choice between an absolute idiot or thatcher mk II.
A round of applause for the leave vote ladies and gentlemen
Because Teresa may is lethal, and she will fuck you over as soon as look at you...she believes in all this snooper shit, and privacy laws will be ripped up
Nope, she believes in the Snoopers Charter far too much and keeps trying to push it fae too hard for me to accept this. The only good thing about her is that she runs her mouth leas than the other prominent Tories.
I kind of want it so he has to deal with the mess he made.
But really no he's the most awful politician in the UK. Who conspired to have a journalist beaten up (why is this not an instant disqualification from holding office in this shitty country?)
What I'm saying is, what realistic alternative was there? Minority governments with constant general elections until someone manages a slim majority would have been a disaster
Let careerist Boris fall on his own sword.
Deep down he's pro immigration & single market. Which is some slight comfort. The worrying thing is how much further he's willing to lie and deceive his way to power at the expense of what (he knows is) best for our country.
May is just pure evil. Anti human rights, anti immigration
Deep down he's pro immigration & single market. Which is some slight comfort. The worrying thing is how much further he's willing to lie and deceive his way to power at the expense of what (he knows is) best for our country.
May is just pure evil. Anti human rights, anti immigration
shinra-bansho
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FTSE 250 only down 9%, pound denominated on a pound that's only 11% weaker than last Thursday!
You're out of the woods now I'm sure.
Yeah, the recent one that wasn't implemented but everything else which is still a good deal remains.
The EU doesn't act because it's pissed, it acts because it's in the best interests for it's members. You know, like the whole reason EU exists
What do you actually want them to do? Chain the door? We've said we'll go, they're basically saying "ok, sorry about that, hate to see you go but if you're going could you please get on with it and stop telling us about the fact your going and start telling us when so we make the bed and change the curtains"
They're not going to talk about hypothetical, in terms of a trade deal there's no real discussion the UK knows roughly what's on the table either EEA access and all that entails or it can go for a Canadian style line item access agreement which will tank the UK service industries. It'll probably have to wait until the Chinese and US deals are done though.
There's not going to be a special super dooper deal, the UK already had that, the EU will be flexible enough to get a EEA deal done but it will need to meet the basic tenants of the EU's core values (free movement of goods, capital, services, and people) as essentially those ARE the common market.
A repeat of the vote in order for a party to collect a majority. If I had known the Lib Dems would have considered teaming up with the Tories I wouldn't have voted for them
Boris is evil as a front for his own political gains. May is evil because she's the devil incarnate
This would have both been a disaster that dragged on for months if not years, and probably would have resulted in a majority Conservative government given the swing away from Labour in 2010
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