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[Hasney]

Yeah, it's just the usual big hairy bollocks. My time is better used sleeping.

 

[Monty Mole]

Scary when I watch QT and I realise that GAF hive is more savvy than the politicians.

How long before someone says 'Australian style points system'?

 

[mehrmantrout]

Jesus , Thornbery, Carswell and Phillips on question time

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Scary when I watch QT and I realise that GAF hive is more savvy than the politicians.

But can you all eat sandwiches without looking like weirdos?

 

[Joni]

Yes the out process has never been clearly defined, this point was a raised a couple of times during the Greek mess two years ago, I think both sides of the channel will find long-held beliefs and certainties are less certain than had been supposed .

Greece had another problem. There was no out for the Eurozone, although a country could be kicked out..

The point is, these things are not 'accidentally' vague as you mentioned, it was done on purpose. Some people I've spoken to think it was an accident, which it clearly is not.

Indeed, it is a lot more dangerous in this manner when it concerns something that never lists detailled what the implication of all the other articles is.

It meant to be dissuasive, and this dimension has failed.

I don't think it has failed on that dimension. The people that have to call the article, seem very very reluctant to do so. They knew what it meant if they won.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Political equivalent of this:

Not so similar. That guy is great at what he does

 

[SuperSah]

That Labour woman is talking so much sense

Thank you, it's a mess and nobody has a clue what they're doing.

 

[cormack12]

That Labour woman is talking so much sense

Thank you, it's a mess and nobody has a clue what they're doing.

Yeah, that snipe from the UKIP fella should have been highlighted as wrong. She didn't say disregard the referendum result at all.

 

[Mr. Sam]

That Labour woman is talking so much sense

Thank you, it's a mess and nobody has a clue what they're doing.

One doesn't have to be particularly astute to come to this conclusion.

 

[Monty Mole]

Why do nationalists always have crooked faces?

That Labour woman is talking so much sense

Thank you, it's a mess and nobody has a clue what they're doing.

Yes but then she's stating the bleeding obvious in a loud voice to get some applause, like everyone who comes on QT.

 

[Faddy]

UKIP are actually the most honest party on this. They basically say we can still trade with Europe on WTO rules and that is better value and better for our economy than obeying the 4 Pillars of the Single Market.

The dishonesty is that the WTO does not have rules for services which is Britain's main export for Europe.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Lmao, that fucking clapping reaction to the nonsense that guy in the audience just spewed out.

 

[IpKaiFung]

Just gonna leave this here

 

[SuperSah]

One doesn't have to be particularly astute to come to this conclusion.

Well, everyone else seems to be avoiding admitting it's a shitshow, so it's a fresh take.

 

[liquidtmd]

Kane nailed it for many

 

[Deleted member 13876]

But can you all eat sandwiches without looking like weirdos?

I cannot.

 

[Joni]

UKIP are actually the most honest party on this. They basically say we can still trade with Europe on WTO rules and that is better value and better for our economy than obeying the 4 Pillars of the Single Market.

Except it isn't. There is a reason why trade agreements are so popular. They wouldn't be if WTO was the superior choice.

 

[SuperSah]

'Clown with the hammer has left the circus'

brilliant lol

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Why weren't people brave enough to damn the idea of 'Leave' as much as they are now?

 

[liquidtmd]

Argggggghhhh 75%+ of our industry is SERVIIIICEEE.

Three minutes. I give it three minutes before I rage quit QT

 

[Frosty Droid]

@DavidAllenGreen

Brexit is not going to happen. It never was. Politics is now about explaining this is the case, following the non-binding referendum.

 

[Hasney]

I heard odeous. Did shit just get real while I was brushing my teeth?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

The french were gentle??

fucking hell lady they want our banks in exchange!

 

[mehrmantrout]

I study Law, and to be fair the vast majority of legislation, legal documents and so forth are intentionally vague.

Take for example, one of the old but now repealed Dangerous Dogs Act actually stated nothing more than 'a dangerous dog'. It was vague and absolutely ridiculous. Its purpose was for legal enforcement to determine what was meant by that. That was extreme however, so thus was repealed.

The point is, these things are not 'accidentally' vague as you mentioned, it was done on purpose. Some people I've spoken to think it was an accident, which it clearly is not.

Vague doesn't matter, its Parliaments intention not the (actual) Act

iirc the Dangerous Dogs Act was amended not repealed

Last one (and I studied it and practiced) don't get tied up with this ideal world that Uni teaches you, the reality is vastly different

@DavidAllenGreen

I've pretty much said this from the start, whether its a second referendum that presents a shit result or an early parliamentary rejection remains to be seen

 

[EdibleExplosives]

We'll be fine, because we're Britain! Remember when we won two world wars? They don't call us Great Britain for nothing.

Edit: Yes, people being called bigots are dividing society, not the bigots themselves.

 

[SuperSah]

@DavidAllenGreen

I know this dude is a top lawyer, but I do also hope he's right.

Vague doesn't matter, its Parliaments intention not the (actual) Act

iirc the Dangerous Dogs Act was amended not repealed

Last one (and I studied it and practiced) don't get tied up with this ideal world that Uni teaches you, the reality is vastly different

Cheers buddy, appreciated the fixes to that.

 

[Faddy]

The "We are a great trading nation" stuff really gets me. We were a really great trading nation who used those skills to get ourselves the best deal in Europe. Exemptions, rebates, opt-outs, vetoes. We got all those things then threw it away.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

christ on a bike, all these people can keep saying are "not all leavers are racists!"

 

[Monty Mole]

We'll be fine, because we're Britain! Remember when we won two world wars? They don't call us Great Britain for nothing.

We've got a Queen and everything.

 

[mrklaw]

What do the conservatives get out of this? More freedom to fuck things up and pare back workers rights? All the candidates are seemingly happily behind leaving.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Maybe he's become like us. Maybe, he just doesn't want to accept it.

 

[oti]

@DavidAllenGreen

I just don't see it not happening at this point.

 

[SuperSah]

christ on a bike, all these people can keep saying are "not all leavers are racists!"

I know someone who knows someone who voted cos' legitimate reasons

blah blah blah

we know why many of these people voted Leave

 

[liquidtmd]

We've got a Queen and everything.

The Queen is dead, boys. And it's so lonely on a limb.

 

[*Splinter]

Why weren't people brave enough to damn the idea of 'Leave' as much as they are now?

They did and were dismissed as "scaremongering"?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

@DavidAllenGreen

I hope he's right but I genuinely think our politicians are stupid enough to do it =/

Why weren't people brave enough to damn the idea of 'Leave' as much as they are now?

They did but it was all "project fear" and people "had had enough of experts"

 

[OriginalThinking]

What do the conservatives get out of this? More freedom to fuck things up and pare back workers rights? All the candidates are seemingly happily behind leaving.

For now, they get to parade around how patriotic they are. It's a strong narrative that appeals to a particularly loud subset of society.

 

[Monty Mole]

Melanie Phillips always winds me up when on QT. She says lots but says nothing.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

What do the conservatives get out of this? More freedom to fuck things up and pare back workers rights? All the candidates are seemingly happily behind leaving.

less regulation for them to contend with, workers rights, civil rights, environmental etc.

 

[liquidtmd]

Russell Kane is really really good here

 

[figadapaura]

@DavidAllenGreen

I fucking hope he's right.

 

[Zaph]

@DavidAllenGreen

.

Nobody is stupid enough to press the a50 button knowing it'll damn them and their family name in all history books

 

[cormack12]

Russell Kane is really really good here

Yep - says something when the comedian is the most politically astute on the panel.

 

[mrklaw]

less regulation for them to contend with, workers rights, civil rights, environmental etc.

But surely they're going to get fucked over when people see the results being worse than the status quo.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

"I'm not going to hang on. Answer Russell"

 

[Hasney]

The french were gentle??

fucking hell lady they want our banks in exchange!

Yes, but they'll allow us to keep Johnny Foreigner out. They're so kind and benevolent!

 

[AHA-Lambda]

But surely they're going to get fucked over when people see the results being worse than the status quo.

people ain't complaining about higher public debt and social inequality now though, cos muslims and immigrants get the blame for everything

 

[Hazzuh]

Emily Thornberry is terrible, people like her are why Labour can't win elections.

 

[liquidtmd]

I want to punch the UKIP guy...but interesting, he's just said the May comments about repatriation needs urgent clarification

 

[SuperSah]

Reaching out to the 48% who voted the other way will not happen, will it?