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[Monty Mole]

Oh please, this is not the time for stupid jokes like this.

It should be to the highest bidder, surely.

True, true

In all seriousness though, I think all Leave voters should be shipped to a far away land as castaways where they can start their own lives free of immigrants and trade deals. The remain voters can stay in the UK and enjoy the benefits of the EU.

 

[MacBosse]

So.

- Article 50 is pandoras box no one wants to touch any time soon.

- Exit negotiations will take some two years give or take.

- Then back at the table again for another set of years of hard negotiations for new trade deals.

Yeah. Big companies love that kind of uncertainty for years ahead. And free movement ain't going nowhere until deals are in place.

This is really a perfect storm you got going UK.

 

[Spaghetti]

It's no wonder people don't fucking trust politicians when they're always plotting to stab each other in the back.

 

[Joni]

Can we sell Essex to Brazil?

They can't afford anything at the moment.

The issue with A50 is how vague it is. It

Yeah, I don't think that is an accident.

 

[kmag]

If the first question on Question time isn't 'WTF' I'm going to be really disappointed.

 

[Monty Mole]

It's no wonder people don't fucking trust politicians when they're always plotting to stab each other in the back.

Sadly, as in business, getting to the top is all about being good at 'playing the game'. It's nothing to do with your values or competence.

 

[Spaghetti]

Sadly, as in business, getting to the top is all about being good at 'playing the game'. It's nothing to do with your values or competence.

Yeah. Business culture is fucking horrible.

It has no place in public office if you ask me.

 

[PJV3]

If the first question on Question time isn't 'WTF' I'm going to be really disappointed.

I would just like someone to give a limit to what is acceptable damage.

 

[liquidtmd]

If the first question on Question time isn't 'WTF' I'm going to be really disappointed.

Tenner says its something like 'So....Racism"

 

[Hasney]

I would just like someone to give a limit to what is acceptable damage.

Uh, can now be the limit? Pretty please? This much?

 

[eerik9000]

A comment regarding Malmström's comments: She is Swedish. Just like the Germans, trade with the UK is pretty important to us Swedes. One argument of Leavers was that it would be in the interests of countries like Germany to push for a mutually beneficial trade agreement even after Brexit. Malmström's comment can be considered evidence against this view.

EU commissioners must work in favour of the whole Union, and not their native country. They must be impartial to each member state.

 

[cormack12]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone

Link for UK people who want to watch QT in 10 mins.

 

[Hasney]

May as well see if it's less of an audience of cunts this time. It usually is, though.

 

[PJV3]

Uh, can now be the limit? Pretty please? This much?

Nah, 30 years of hardly any growth and London a hollowed out wasteland.

Just something like that would help.

 

[CTLance]

Brexit has taught me that next time I vote, I will have to properly research the matter at hand, in depth, even if it's only about the colour of Merkels lipstick on official occasions. Shit is scary as fuck.

 

[Hasney]

I'm just going to enjoy the calming noise of This is BBC One HD before I watch Question Time and probably rage quit after 2 questions.

Brexit has taught me that next time I vote, I will have to properly research the matter at hand, in depth, even if it's only about the colour of Merkels lipstick on official occasions. Shit is scary as fuck.

Next referendum: 0% turnout. Everyone was too scared.

 

[cormack12]

I hope it's not just really tame questions this week and they cut off the last relevant question.

 

[Zaph]

yeah, my blood pressure can't do a QT rn

Brexit has taught me that next time I vote, I will have to properly research the matter at hand, in depth, even if it's only about the colour of Merkels lipstick on official occasions. Shit is scary as fuck.

Lucky for you, we don't live in a direct democracy where hugely important decisions are left up to a lying press.

It's like the public being allowed to skip all their exams, but then expecting them to pass the bar

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I'm just going to enjoy the calming noise of This is BBC One HD before I watch Question Time and probably rage quit after 2 questions.

This. I'm preparing myself right now. Could be one of the most infuriating hours of television in years.

 

[Jezbollah]

Oh god Thornberry AND Carswell?

I think Sharknado 3 would be more kinder to my braincells than to go through that

 

[Spaghetti]

Fuck Question Time. It's not long enough or informative enough, and the fucking audience will clap for anything.

 

[theaface]

Is it Article 50 time yet?

 

[Hasney]

I hope it's not just really tame questions this week and they cut off the last relevant question.

Just pretend nothing ever happened "So who does the panel think will win the Euros?"

 

[PJV3]

Oh god Thornberry AND Carswell?

I think Sharknado 3 would be more kinder to my braincells than to go through that

she's nice enough but I'm not in the mood for her.

Get Ewan McGregor on.

 

[Hasney]

Fuck Question Time. It's not long enough or informative enough, and the fucking audience will clap for anything.

I liek claping

 

[liquidtmd]

I'm just going to enjoy the calming noise of This is BBC One HD before I watch Question Time and probably rage quit after 2 questions.

Optimistic. I give it half way through the first for me.

 

[cormack12]

Just pretend nothing ever happened "So who does the panel think will win the Euros?"

I'm fully expecting things like

How does it feel to have beaten the EU into submission
Will you remain strong as the EU try to bully us out.....

Can feel blood pulsing in my cheeks already typing this.....

 

[NekoFever]

Next referendum: 0% turnout. Everyone was too scared.

I'll do my part by burning down all the polling stations the night before. Too risky otherwise.

 

[Spaghetti]

I liek claping

Political equivalent of this:

 

[mrklaw]

If people want a visual representation of what a tariff regime between the UK and the EU would look like here it is note the overwhelming amount of tariffs below 5%

The bottom axis shows the 2011 trade surplus or deficit between the EU and UK in each tariff goods sector.

Oh I suppose I should mention that aside from tariffs, you'd also have custom charges which currently don't apply but they're relatively minor.

9.8% for vehicles seems very high. Which direction is that - UK deficit or EU deficit? Even if it's a UK deficit we still export a lot to Europe and adding 10% to costs is very bad




Hey - good question on QT

 

[Hasney]

Oh it's in Preston? Yeah, I'm revising down to the first question.

EDIT: oh good, border control out of the gate.

EDIT2: So Times writer has no clue. Good to know.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

May as well see if it's less of an audience of cunts this time. It usually is, though.

It'll only be a bunch of politicians being PC to audience members. I wish they'd just straight up tell them to get fucked.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Even shitty tabloids are a big step-up from Twitter, which is where a lot of this hysteria is coming from.

I swear, I feel like at some point we entered an internet created reality-distortion field, the real "generation gap" is people who live in the social media bubble, and those who don't.

Gotta admit, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to a lot of social media stuff but it doesn't surprise me that Twitter breeds this behaviour.

 

[cormack12]

Panelists going to waste the entire hour this week then...........

 

[liquidtmd]

ITS NOT A GAME OF FUCKING POKER YOU FUCKING BITCH

 

[Mr. Sam]

The sort of people I'm seeing come out for Andrea Leadsom, I'm assuming she's incredibly horrible, even by Tory standards.

 

[mrklaw]

If we can negotiate closed borders and free trade, then everyone else will want that. It isn't about what is possible, you have to consider all 27 countries it has a knock on impact too.

It isn't about being tough you stilly twat. All this rhetoric about being strong is just bullshit pandering to the right.

 

[Faddy]

"Its a game of poker"

Yes and the UK voters just folded a pair of Aces

 

[Norwegian_Imposter]

Off topic, but What do you teach?

I teach design and film

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbctwo
Newsnight on BBC2. They're wrapping up on the party issues. I suppose they will be talking about the EU ref next.

 

[Hasney]

Holy shit, she has no fucking idea. I'm flying in someone from this thread to replace her.

 

[CTLance]

So I take it QT is going as expected? Wish I could watch, too.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

I hate the Question Time crowd, the clapping sounds like something out of a fucking American sitcom.

 

[Tethur]

The issue with A50 is how vague it is. It was tossed in there to please some people and was never expected to have been used at all.

Now it's going to be used, people are in a bit of a pickle when trying to actually spell out the process.

Yes the out process has never been clearly defined, this point was a raised a couple of times during the Greek mess two years ago, I think both sides of the channel will find long-held beliefs and certainties are less certain than had been supposed .
You're explorers mapping out an undiscovered terrority (you might struck gold or give the natives syphilis) but you'll provide a map for any who follow. Good luck.

 

[SuperSah]

Yeah, I don't think that is an accident.

I study Law, and to be fair the vast majority of legislation, legal documents and so forth are intentionally vague.

Take for example, one of the old but now repealed Dangerous Dogs Act actually stated nothing more than 'a dangerous dog'. It was vague and absolutely ridiculous. Its purpose was for legal enforcement to determine what was meant by that. That was extreme however, so thus was repealed.

The point is, these things are not 'accidentally' vague as you mentioned, it was done on purpose. Some people I've spoken to think it was an accident, which it clearly is not.

 

[le-seb]

Yeah, I don't think that is an accident.

It's not.

Excerpts from Alain Lamassoure's interview by Le Journal du Dimanche, who helped redacting this article (in French):

«On ne pensait pas forcément au Royaume-Uni en rédigeant l'article»
We didn't necessarily think of the UK when redacting this article.

«Avec cet article 50, l’idée était de rassurer les pays et de faire en sorte que chacun se sente à l’aise dans cette maison commune en sachant qu’il peut en partir. C’était dans un but dissuasif, et cette dimension a échoué.»
The goal of article 50 was to reassure all countries, making them feel comfortable in this common house, knowing it's possible to leave it. It meant to be dissuasive, and this dimension has failed.

 

[Monty Mole]

Melanie knows nothing.

 

[liquidtmd]

I hate the Question Time crowd, the clapping sounds like something out of a fucking American sitcom.

Yup. Toilet flushing and laughs on standby

 

[mrklaw]

The beaurocats in Westminster don't listen to people either. How have they managed to spin it that it's all europes fault


Edit - fuck it they've got a UKIP wanker on, switching it off just in case he gets clapped

 

[cormack12]

Get in woman in yellow cardigan

f off UKIP