BumblebeeCody
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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They'll pass English Votes for British Laws because clearly the Scots can't be trusted.
Current entire UK Government
With Nicola Sturgeon as Ripley.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Which is fine. England can fuck off on its own.
Indigo_Plateau
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Are Michael Gove and Boris Johnson really the only candidates left as PM?
Boris is a bafoon and Gove is a self declared Zionist.
Is this really where we've come to?
Boris is a bafoon and Gove is a self declared Zionist.
Is this really where we've come to?
PJV3
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I'm hoping for Dan Jarvis and a call to unite the strands of the party. Trying to fuck over the left is going to destroy the activist base.
nature boy
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If Scotland were to vote for independence, would they want to be a republic or still have the Queen as head of state?
BreezyLimbo
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Its essentially a poison pill. Cameron didnt go for it because it would make his reputation even worse. Whoever is elected next wont activate it lest they would tarnish their reputation as soon as they invoke it.
Activating article 50 is akin to taking a gun and blasting your own brains out. Cameron knows this. Its a self set poison pill. Its actually genius if it didnt come out of pure stupidity.
And this is why even though I would have preferred to remain, I'd rather leave than allow the Government to just ignore the referendum and be like "nah ain't doing that".
They have all shown their true colours the past few weeks. From the lies and scare tactics of both campaigns, to Cameron acting like an utter coward, Farage being like "oops didn't mean that" just hours after Leave won the vote, to labour tearing itself apart, and the fact that even though they've been spending money on tv time and ads reminding us to vote time and time again lest we forget....not one of them actually formed an exit plan this entire time. If it wasn't so messed up it would be hilarious. They've shown just how out of touch with the country they are.
Hence why we can't afford to hand over what power we do have to them. To give them the right to ignore us. Because once you hand over that power it's very difficult to get it back, and with clowns like these running the country I wouldn't trust any of them.
This is how I feel about the response to that post. I made a funny on Gaf, my life is complete.
Not only do you want to ignore a democratic decision, you're hoping that the police swoop in to deal with any protesters.
Darkstorne
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There was Theresa May as well, but then this happened...
So it's tetchy whoever gets in. No-one is "popular" in that party right now.
Simple transition, keep Betty until she pops off then GTF ASAP before Charles takes the throne ideally.
The last couple of decades? I fail to see any bigger political fiasko honestly.
Even the Germans in 1933 had the excuse of being under a very bad (for them) Versailles treaty, while the UK right now has the best deal in the whole of the EU.
Audioboxer
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As much as I want my English remain bros helped I really hope we can do it up here without doing that.
I'd actually be a little scared of what would happen. The English leave voters would fucking despise us. We'd take a beating in the media. Maybe even the EU would dislike us for bringing England/Wales back along with us when they've shown a democratic distaste for the EU.
But you know, if she can't get it done any other way, YOLO. Hit the lever Sturgeon and keep us all in.
99.9% sure that will not be happening. Very likely it's just indeyref2 and the UK saying bye to Scotland.
I think Dan Jarvis is the only credible name I've seen put forward so far. I would rather see him than some snake who lost last time get another shot because they rigged the game.
SlickShoes
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Blocking the out before a referendum makes sense as it's what almost half the UK wants. It will also stir up anti-scottish sentiment across the entire leave voter base which will basically reach hysterical levels, thus strengthening further the time being right for Scotland to leave the UK.
I want my country back, I want Scotland to stand on it's own and decide it's own future, not be dragged down some anti-immigration xenophobic yellow brick road to certain doom disguised as English national pride.
I've never felt British, and the way this vote and campaign went I doubt I ever will. If Scotland can;t gain independence this time then I'll seriously look at living elsewhere. Scotland is a country that NEEDS immigrants, we are at odds with everything the leave campaign stood for.
fucking hell, the wet knickers in here are something to behold.
the one thing i agree with the leavers on is that we've been sleepwalking through a shite political state of affairs for the best part of the last decade, most of us were resigned to tories running the circus for god knows how long while labour ate itself alive.
there is an opportunity for something decent to come out of this mess and the coin is still in the air as far as i'm concerned. keep your head and the world will be yours.
the one thing i agree with the leavers on is that we've been sleepwalking through a shite political state of affairs for the best part of the last decade, most of us were resigned to tories running the circus for god knows how long while labour ate itself alive.
there is an opportunity for something decent to come out of this mess and the coin is still in the air as far as i'm concerned. keep your head and the world will be yours.
Eh, I could see the markets bounce back a bit on monday as nothing has actually happened yet. The main effects of brexit won't hit till Britain actually leaves, though it will cause a large amount of uncertainty in the markets.
pacificrex
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If you think it's perfectly okay to discount people because they're older, I don't know what to say. The older generation only wants what is best for their children. I think it's downright shameful to discount them in so many ways. You don't get control of everything just because you're younger.
For the record, I don't have a horse in this race. Not from the UK. But as an outsider looking in, some of the reaction to not getting their way has been awful. Calling for more votes until you somehow get the result one side wants is the opposite of democratic.
geordiemp
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I did not vote leave, does not mean I cant find fault in both stances. I dont like Brussels bureaucrats who have no one on their back for accountabbility, I dont like the inefficiencies, but I also support people coming here to do work others wont and respect that. Some people just dont want to work.
If I could vote for free trade common market, but also no restrictions on EU labour movement, I would.
Its not always clear cut is it. I bet if that if the remain vote was free common market and free labour movement remain would of got 85 % and won a land slide...
You realize that by going ahead with Brexit we're handling ALL of our power to Johnson or Gove? Going back on one singular decision does not a dictatorship make, especially with a non-legally binding suggestion based on only a slight minority.
Was doing this all weekend and that was in central london, probably not socially acceptable to out yourself here. Then again I saw that tweet about people shouting make britain white again on Great Portland Street. I live in Fitzrovia, it's literally street opposite. Never seen that in this part of London ever.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I went out for a long walk today and was doing this a lot. The walk was meant to clear my head of all this nonsense.
RedSparrows
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Doing this as a way of getting domestic reform, is, however, really dangerous.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Protesters != Rioters
And yes after this
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I couldn't give a fuck. Sorry.
What will hurt Britain tomorrow is less the brexit and more that most of the political class collapsed over the weekend
Investors won't like this chaos
Im pretty sure if you pressed 9/10 people on the street you would find one value or belief they have that, were you to know it, would make you think of them quite differently.
I mean fuck there are things I wont talk to my own family about because I know if we do im gonna hear some shit I dont want to.
Had the same thing at a family party last night. Walked in to the pisser on my uncle and his friend basically saying they voted out because Immigrants have taken our jobs and now there is nothing left for young people.
I thought about starting a debate but then realised it stunk of piss so just went for option two. Pissed a little bit on my uncles shoes without him noticing. Felt good.
justsomeguy
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Agree. Met a friend's new bf today and it was the only thing I was worried about.
"Only wants what's best for their children"
The key word is "wants here". Actions will always speak louder than words, and from Thursday we've seen that most of the older generation care more about themselves and their selfish idea of "taking back control" than the younger generation. Experts upon experts have said that a brexit would fuck the country's future up, yet they ignored it.
And no, calling for more democracy is not a removal of democracy. Nor are our elected leaders not taking a suggestion as legal fact.
The whole world changed overnight and that's not hyperbole.
My wife is Polish and before this was subject to casual racism at work around the referendum 'Ir's not you, it's all the others".
I'm afraid what it will be like for her now.
I am also ashamed of my country. Is this how National Socialism started?
change emotional to racist
Let's not go full Godwin. That doesn't help anyone.
justsomeguy
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Danke.
RedSparrows
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I'll never forget having a drunken (so some mitigation) conversation with a flatmate in first year of undergraduate. She was bright, friendly, and bloody gorgeous to boot.
Then she said prisoners should be shot, as they were a waste of money. Not just murderers, either.
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I don't think anyone but UKIP and the Lib Dems can actually expect to make any gains out of a snap general election, but will be interesting to see if the next wave of opinion polls show anything different.
The Conservatives government was elected on a manifesto of holding an EU referendum, they have done so. I don't think there's any constitutional 'need' to have another general election if the party sucks it up and gets behind their new leader. What are the chances?
It fucking is. I've even eyeballed my neighbours thinking "Were you one of them?"
I was even a bit edgy when my girlfriend and I went out yesterday because she's French (well, half French) and I was worried that we'd get dirty looks or something.
paperboywriter
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God, what have you done
paradox121
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I'm in a Remain constituency and yet I still find myself suspiciously eyeing up old white people as if they're evil incarnate. (I'm a terrible stereotyper, I know).
I don't think anyone could have predicted the extent to which this whole issue would draw these huge lines between race, class and age.
Bobnob
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pacificrex
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It seems to me that your nation is nearly as polarized as my own, so I can identify with your plight. However, is these polarized environments, I've noticed that everyone has their own ''experts''. How do regular people know who to trust? Everyone has an agenda and a bias, so don't bother denying it.
You completely misrepresent the argument being made by phrasing it like ''calling for more democracy''. C'mon now. That isn't democracy. Democracy would be holding a vote, making the change and actually see how the UK adjusts and giving it a chance in the 21st century. If there's enough of a swell to vote again and change back, then that's a more appropriate time. It isn't democratic to just keep holding votes and strongarming the other side and they're bent to your will.
The Prime Minister has set a schedule for his resignation, the opposition is in disarray, and Scotland is proposing revolt. That, unfortunately, isn't exactly a formula that suggests a stable future for the country in the short-term. It's hard to not expect at least some reaction to that.
Pankratous
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Can't believe it's nearly been three full nights and there's still no plan. There's nothing. Is Nicola Sturgeon the only politician doing her job? Labour is in disarray. The "victorious" leave campaign, short of confirming their campaign was a lie, have done nothing. The PM has quit.
This is terrifying. Thank god UK doesn't have guns, there'd a civil war by now.
This is terrifying. Thank god UK doesn't have guns, there'd a civil war by now.
The Incarnation
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In a vacuum, a 2nd vote would be even more in favour than a 1st vote, as there are people that are against a 2nd vote on principle. A 2nd vote should be harder for Remain to win, not easier. There's no strong manning here.
in fairness: tales from my ass
SymbiantXenos
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