Mephisto40
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Fair point. If Xbox is dead, what happens if Xbox Live gets shut down?
Fair point. If Xbox is dead, what happens if Xbox Live gets shut down?
This could just be a few countries in Africa for all we knowMicrosoft will stop marketing Xbox consoles in certain markets in EMEA
u do know that UK is in Europe ?So, yesterday game pass was dieing and now it's the only focus for Europe.
Maybe the truth is in-between.
Europe becomes a second class citizen and only gets game pass streaming and very low volumes of console stock to sell to the region while UK and US gets more focus on a console/pc hybrid.
Likely, but the Verge doesn’t care as all they’re after is the clicks and advertising revenue. I’d like to remind everyone that during the time when all that talk about every Xbox game coming to PlayStation was happening, they were front and centre fanning the flames. They must have put out like 5 or 6 Xbox ”source” stories within the space of a week. So far all we’ve got is four minor games and until we hear more from Microsoft, nothing is confirmed.This could just be a few countries in Africa for all we know
u do know that UK is in Europe ?
Fair point. If Xbox is dead, what happens if Xbox Live gets shut down?
Living in the UK myself, it doesn't seem to me like xbox is "strong" here tbh, it's being increasingly heavily outsold by playstation on a month by month basisYes, of course I do...But it is not relevant here. The UK is still pretty strong for Xbox. MS has always treated the UK differently than Europe.
True, but the third party narrative started ramping up after October when the acquisition completed. No way to know really. Could be things would have happened exactly as they happened either way.
My response from above...
Nope. It's good for consumers to have access to more games thanks to Microsoft. Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before.And every platform is treated equally and gets the updates, DLC and skins at the same time
Living in the UK myself, it doesn't seem to me like xbox is "strong" here tbh, it's being increasingly heavily outsold by playstation on a month by month basis
What other platforms are Activision games available on since Microsoft bought them? you sound like one of them Microsoft bots from the merger threadNope. It's good for consumers to have access to more games thanks to Microsoft. Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before.And every platform is treated equally and gets the updates, DLC and skins at the same time
Just like being the second strongest region doesn't mean it is performing well.A product outselling another in a region doesn't put the other product into "not performing well or strongly" Yes, Xbox is behind playstation but UK is still its second strongest region, I believe.
What are you talking about? They had TV ads where they snuck in a 5/5 from Metro which gave it a 3/5 or some shit.The no marketing starfield was the clue to how mess up the situation is.
Contrast to Sony and Nintendo who heavily market their big hitters.
Can you give us one example? I can't think of anything.Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before
What kind of ads did you watch?What are you talking about? They had TV ads where they snuck in a 5/5 from Metro which gave it a 3/5 or some shit.
I just told you, there were ads and you're denying it. There were TV ads, youtube ads, I'm sure there were website ads but I don't visit them so I wouldn't know. In fact I think GAF had ads on it too, can't remember. Try watching TV for once.What kind of ads did you watch?
They were pretty much silent for most of the time.
And I am telling you. They weren't aggressive with their ads.I just told you, there were ads and you're denying it. There were TV ads, youtube ads, I'm sure there were website ads but I don't visit them so I wouldn't know. In fact I think GAF had ads on it too, can't remember. Try watching TV for once.
Starfield was definitely marketed more then some of their other exclusives.What kind of ads did you watch?
They were pretty much silent for most of the time.
It’s a fair point. But to me it’s more co-existing rather than head-on competition. Seems like ninty and playstation mostly just stay out of each other’s way for the most part, cathering to mostly different audiences. And with ps now releasing on pc… it just doesn’t feel as aggressive competition to me as xbox/ps rivalryI'd argue that without Xbox the industry will be much better off with healthy competition between PC/PS/Nintendo.
Anyone who believes that the industry without Xbox is delusional.It’s a fair point. But to me it’s more co-existing rather than head-on competition. Seems like ninty and playstation mostly just stay out of each other’s way for the most part, cathering to mostly different audiences. And with ps now releasing on pc… it just doesn’t feel as aggressive competition to me as xbox/ps rivalry
Just like being the second strongest region doesn't mean it is performing well.
Nope. It's good for consumers to have access to more games thanks to Microsoft. Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before.And every platform is treated equally and gets the updates, DLC and skins at the same time
Tienes que parar hermanoNope. It's good for consumers to have access to more games thanks to Microsoft. Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before.And every platform is treated equally and gets the updates, DLC and skins at the same time
Because MS is saint and Sony is the devil of gaming.Why are you replying "nope" and then praising Microsoft for shit that has nothing to do with what I said? I'm talking about the effect this acquisition has had on Xbox consoles and you are replying with some jibberish that could have come out of a Microsoft press release.
I was looking at console prices last night as I wouldn't mind maybe picking up an XSX again on the cheap. Just as a BC machine and for access to my dormant, large digital library. And bizarrely the XSX is consistently more expensive everywhere I looked compared to the PS5. I just dont understand the thinking and strategy (if there even is one) going on here. There's no effort to turn things around.Living in the UK myself, it doesn't seem to me like xbox is "strong" here tbh, it's being increasingly heavily outsold by playstation on a month by month basis
Last number I found Here puts it for the year at 1.2 million vs 650 000 so around half of what sony is selling in their second best market is not really great but fair enough 66/33 is not as great as 90/10.It still doesnt mean that they sold much though, see the point you made also applied to your point yet you failed to see it.It's not like a 90 / 10 split like Nvidia vs AMD though. I think last numbers it was like 62 / 38 and thats VS the playstation 5 which is supposed to be beast mode isn't it?
lol, not sure access and good for consumers are flags I'd be waving at this moment in time... you got the recent GP memo I assume?Nope. It's good for consumers to have access to more games thanks to Microsoft. Also, thanks to Microsoft, Activision games are available on more platforms than ever before.And every platform is treated equally and gets the updates, DLC and skins at the same time
Their marketing division has been dogshot throught the purchase of activision.Starfield was definitely marketed more then some of their other exclusives.
Although like with all xbox marketing it's questionable if they did enough.
drop xbox, call it MS gamepass and MS games publishing and go third party
perfect example of an astroturfer honestly, <100 posts and disappeared about a month after the launch of the now current gen consolesXbox Series gonna win the next generation - and I'll tell you why
TL;DR: Cheapest console + LATAM Support + Gamepass Every start of a generation is an amazing Cold War, where information and hype are practically directly converted into money. The company that keeps their hand hidden for the longest and keep the image of being the owner of the answer about...www.neogaf.com
What other platforms are Activision games available on since Microsoft bought them? you sound like one of them Microsoft bots from the merger thread
I don't know which he is thinking of but Diablo 4 on Steam happened after the merger but idk if Blizzard already had that in the works or not. Until then, all Blizzard games were on their launcher only.
Part of the reason XSX hasn't gone down in price is because Microsoft's install base is pretty much dominated by XSS owners insteadI was looking at console prices last night as I wouldn't mind maybe picking up an XSX again on the cheap. Just as a BC machine and for access to my dormant, large digital library. And bizarrely the XSX is consistently more expensive everywhere I looked compared to the PS5. I just dont understand the thinking and strategy (if there even is one) going on here. There's no effort to turn things around.
It really feels/looks to me that there is a mixture of arrogance, incompetence and a lack of effort by MS on their console. Its both sad and frustrating to see. Bu then thats how I felt during most of my ownership of my day one XSX. You'd have thought lessons would be learnt. It all comes across as half arsed.
Part of the reason XSX hasn't gone down in price is because Microsoft's install base is pretty much dominated by XSS owners instead
Starfield was definitely marketed more then some of their other exclusives.
Although like with all xbox marketing it's questionable if they did enough.
Well shit....it looks like Microsoft is pulling Xbox out of retail in Europe...
Well shit....it looks like Microsoft is pulling Xbox out of retail in Europe...
I never understoodSo hold on... The main reason they didn't sell many consoles is surely because their games line-up was either poor or non-existent, or they were just terrible at marketing it.
But now they're ditching the hardware to be what is essentially a games publisher. (Which they are shit at.)
I was looking at console prices last night as I wouldn't mind maybe picking up an XSX again on the cheap. Just as a BC machine and for access to my dormant, large digital library. And bizarrely the XSX is consistently more expensive everywhere I looked compared to the PS5. I just dont understand the thinking and strategy (if there even is one) going on here. There's no effort to turn things around.
It really feels/looks to me that there is a mixture of arrogance, incompetence and a lack of effort by MS on their console. Its both sad and frustrating to see. Bu then thats how I felt during most of my ownership of my day one XSX. You'd have thought lessons would be learnt. It all comes across as half arsed.