The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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BY2K said:
I know that. I'm pretty sure a mod wouldn't give: “You're a piece of shit and your opinion does not matter. Cunt.” as a reason for a ban. But that does tell me he is far from okay with that ban.
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Ban messages are generally formal and/or very specific, and detail the poster's issues enough they that understand what they did wrong and how not to run into the same issue again.

They also generally start with a short length (unless the offense is really bad or a junior offense) and then go up on repeat offenses either in number of bans or repeating the same offense again.

Final ban messages are occasionally less specific if the poster is being permed for offenses they have repeated and been warned about many times, as they should obviously know what they did wrong at that point, but they should not be rude. If posters feel their ban and/or ban message was inappropriate or confusing, they are always free to email support@neogaf.com and/or send a message to @stumpokapow on twitter.

I checked BurntPork's message and would not consider it rude or inappropriate. I did override it though to be more specific in case that is what is bothering him.
 
TriGen said:
It's weird, I have no idea why he's flipped. The 3DS is screwed though.
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It selling better then the DS, at the same point in life. So ye its screwed.

Also Nintendo could just discontinue all past models of the DS, to boost the 3DS. Which I presume will happen when the 3DS lite will launch (the latest)


Also new Pokemon game built straight up for 3DS (that alone should do the Job)
 
Mihael Mello Keehl said:
Dang BP, oh well.
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looked at your avatar then looked at your statement. It made me think of this picture.

keikaku.jpg
 
Smiles and Cries said:
that is not what these threads have been telling us but it would not be a shock, it is Nintendo
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It's what these threads have been telling us. These threads have been telling us that Nintendo is not building a powerhouse. It is building a piece of technology that fits their affordability, profit margins and marketability. 'Dated' is relative, and the reality is the Wii U will for all intents and purposes be 'dated'. And by this I mean weaker in both GPU and CPU than the PC I built a couple of years ago (which was not made of top-of-the-line hardware to begin with).

It's a reality best to accept, and understand where people are coming from when they say it.
 
The only problem I had with him was that he carried on about being banned/getting banned towards the end there and it got old.

But he was a great poster otherwise, from what I saw. :)
 
In terms of news, Satterfield again hinted that the launch lineup will be very good- 1st and 3rd party. "pleasantly surprised by how many games there are."
 
HylianTom said:
Any chance that he's learned certain secret things from one or more of the other panelists and thus.. a new outlook on the Wii U's prospects?
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Yeah, I think he has always believed that the Wii U is cheap tech, and isn't "hardcore" enough, and the online can never be as good as other companies offerings. So for someone that against it in the past to flip must mean he's heard/seen something. There would be no reason to back-pedal right now, even if he was just scared about being wrong, he could wait till E3 to see what they show, and then back-pedal.
 
pachter responding to the "3DS has sold more than the DS at this point". he's so convinced that people no longer want handheld consoles.
 
TheExplodingHead said:
He was ashamed of what he posted, his pretensions of Nintendo love/hate, he was sorry about his coldblooded-ness, his dispassion, his inability to now express what he now believed was the case. That he truly regretted his posting errors, that he missed NeoGAF as much as anyone, and wished his bans hadn't been necessary.

Even as he circulated the Wii Spec thread, he knew the assumption he'd get banned appeared when he passed by. He received so much notoriety he could read "BP level rant", "bipolar", "was bound to happen" without any reaction except curiosity. He kept to his PC desk all day, pressing F5, looking at his destiny in every DR and Guek.

BurntPork came into GAF on 5-12-2011. He had no grand scheme, no strategy, no agreement with higher authorities or "insider knowledge". Nothing beyond a vague longing for glory and a generalized wish to discuss news in the Wii U Spec thread, and pwn where possible.

BurntPork would be ordered to serve a Permaban for his behavior in this thread. Over 7000 votes would eventually be gathered in a petition asking for BP's return, and on E3 2012 a yet unnamed mod would pardon the man.

There would be no eulogies for BurntPork. No copies of his AV's would be sold online, no people would crowd the streets in the rain to see his funeral cortege. No biographies would be written about him, no children named after him, no one would ever pay 25 cents to touch the keyboard he posted on. The ban hammer would come down, and BY2K would scream, but BurntPork would only sit in his chair and stare at the monitor, the light going out of his account, before he could find right words.

We'll miss you BP! Take care man. Respect.
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Made me shed a tear
 
Darryl said:
pachter responding to the "3DS has sold more than the DS at this point". he's so convinced that people no longer want handheld consoles.
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Very arrogant segment there by the Pach man. Essentially said "those numbers do not count because there is literally no way they can continue"
 
schuelma said:
In terms of news, Satterfield again hinted that the launch lineup will be very good- 1st and 3rd party. "pleasantly surprised by how many games there are."
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there are seven games.

alien: colonial marines - assassin's creed iii: fusion saga
metroid - star fox: fusion saga
star fox - metroid: fusion saga
mario and sonic at the london games 2012: fusion saga
killer freaks from outer space - u just dance: fusion saga
beyond good & evil 2 - half-life 3: fusion saga
pikmin 3
 
I really hope no one gets hung-up/upset over the "dated technology" bit. I mean, it isn't a surprise.

What surprises me more is when it's used to taunt Nintendo fans, as though we'd be shocked by such an incredible, scandalous revelation. It's gonna be behind the times a bit. No biggie.

(Revelation: the next systems from the others will also be behind the times before we know it. Amazing, I know!)

I wish they'd dish on some games..
 
bgassassin said:
So based on Pachter's predictions, 3DS is going to rise to heaven and WiiU is already dead.
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Yep :P
I mean, Pachter often change his mind. I mean, the first time, he said 3DS will be really succesful, and Nintendo should charge more than 250$... Look how it turned ! 250$ was too expensive. Now, he's saying that 3DS will be dead... for no obvious reasons ?
About the Wii U, he was saying that it will "Dreamcast itself", but now, will be succesfull at 250$, which scares me about WiiU's future !
 
WTH did i just watch?

Pachter defending a Nintendo console?

Then he says that Nintendo is "Toast" on the Handheld market? WTF?

Am i on drugs? I must be... this couldn´t have been real... never...

While i am at it... Pachter... yes, PACHTER said Xbox 3/PS 4 won´t be as big of a jump as people want to belive...
 
GhostTrick said:
Yep :P
I mean, Pachter often change his mind. I mean, the first time, he said 3DS will be really succesful, and Nintendo should charge more than 250$... Look how it turned ! 250$ was too expensive. Now, he's saying that 3DS will be dead... for no obvious reasons ?
About the Wii U, he was saying that it will "Dreamcast itself", but now, will be succesfull at 250$, which scares me about WiiU's future !
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Maybe the flip-flopping will cancel out his anti-prediction powers.
 
EatChildren said:
It's what these threads have been telling us. These threads have been telling us that Nintendo is not building a powerhouse. It is building a piece of technology that fits their affordability, profit margins and marketability. 'Dated' is relative, and the reality is the Wii U will for all intents and purposes be 'dated'. And by this I mean weaker in both GPU and CPU than the PC I built a couple of years ago (which was not made of top-of-the-line hardware to begin with).

It's a reality best to accept, and understand where people are coming from when they say it.
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yeah, this is really what it all comes down to Nintendo is not pushing things yet again.
"Dated" is just troll bait though :)

I am more excited about the WiiU now if it is truly going to get those games... No matter what Bonus Round was pretty fair on the WiiU. I don't get the 3DS stuff but time will tell
 
Nilaul said:
It selling better then the DS, at the same point in life. So ye its screwed.

Also Nintendo could just discontinue all past models of the DS, to boost the 3DS. Which I presume will happen when the 3DS lite will launch (the latest)


Also new Pokemon game built straight up for 3DS (that alone should do the Job)
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It's weird. Pachter is all over the place. I can understand being concerned about the Wii U, (which now he isn't apparently) but the 3DS is doing really good now. It seems he just likes to change his opinion to get attention.
 
Pachter talking bs as usual. Sure smartphones cripple handhelds, but calling it DEAD when the 3DS sells millions? That's a bit harsh. If I had kids I would buy them a DS for dem Marios. (not a 3DS though, I wouldn't want their eyes to melt)

I doubt the kids market will disappear as long as Mario, Mario Kart and Pokemon are appealing.
 
TriGen said:
It's weird. Pachter is all over the place. I can understand being concerned about the Wii U, (which now he isn't apparently) but the 3DS is doing really good now. It seems he just likes to change his opinion to get attention.
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the 3ds is doing poorly at best outside of japan. everything about it is too expensive.
 
Wow, sounds like Pachter is trying to save his professional ass. After all, I didn't understand why some people still continue to pay him for his "estimations" after all his massive fails.
 
EatChildren said:
It probably is dated technology. Just like the Wii, and (more or less) the 3DS.
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Wii was, 3DS far less so and Wii U isn't. At all. It's based on 2009 technology that was further modified until mid/ late 2011. The 360 hardware was just as "dated" when it released in 2005.
 
Coolwhip said:
Pachter talking bs as usual. Sure smartphones cripple handhelds, but calling it DEAD when the 3DS sells millions? That's a bit harsh. If I had kids I would buy them a DS for dem Marios. (not a 3DS though, I wouldn't want their eyes to melt)

I doubt the kids market will disappear as long as Mario, Mario Kart and Pokemon are appealing.
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Did you realize that you can setting up parental control system and turn off 3DS permanent? I warned my friend who happened to be father of two kids, and he said he already turned it off in parental control. I'm not sure if he was bsing or not.
 
HylianTom said:
I really hope no one gets hung-up/upset over the "dated technology" bit. I mean, it isn't a surprise.

What surprises me more is when it's used to taunt Nintendo fans, as though we'd be shocked by such an incredible, scandalous revelation. It's gonna be behind the times a bit. No biggie.

(Revelation: the next systems from the others will also be behind the times before we know it. Amazing, I know!)

I wish they'd dish on some games..
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Exactly. Consoles will always be "dated" tech, and Nintendo consoles will be a little bit more dated then the others, no surprise.
 
Wow at the same time Pachter mentioned that the Wii U would be fine it started to rain and there's a thunderstorm raging right now.

coincidence i think not
 
ColdBlooder said:
WTH did i just watch?

Pachter defending a Nintendo console?

Then he says that Nintendo is "Toast" on the Handheld market? WTF?

Am i on drugs? I must be... this couldn´t have been real... never...

While i am at it... Pachter... yes, PACHTER said Xbox 3/PS 4 won´t be as big of a jump as people want to belive...
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The end of the world it seems :P
 
qq more said:
He totally deserves the permaban. It kind of saddens me because I wanted him to become a good member after so many long bans. Oh well, he got wayyy too ignorant for his own good and ultimately paid the price.

I'm shocked that he wasn't banned due to a sales thread, however. Especially that sales brings out the worst of him.
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why was he banned again? i dont see anything that shocking in that thread.
 
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