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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country
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ScreenSplitter
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I don't consider the Metroid games "serious business" like some.
The cold, hard fact for Metroid (and Star Fox fans) is that apparently neither series are worth enough sales to warrant a game of their own right now. Not to mention this would be a perfect opportunity to make the characters big again; Smash Bros' success proves that crossovers sell, especially when Nintendo are involved.
And the fact Retro will be involved is enough to give confidence, they are very good.
invaderzim69
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If it's true, its a great idea. It just might work.
Well. You should preorder Mach Rider Unchained and Metroid x Star Fox. now then. Mention Paul Gale Network at GameStop and you get a discount!
Portugeezer
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I'm not against the idea, but the rumour I heard about how it plays sounded bad. Maybe it has to be seen.
Metroid Prime 3 and Metroid Other M both sold over a million world wide. It certainly is a viable series. It proves that at the least, the niche core Nintendo audience can sustain them. As for Star Fox, there really hasn't been a good brand new one to gauge where the series potential is at.
If its done tongue-in-cheek with great atmosphere befitting each segment, it could work wonderfully.
To channel Fi for a moment: I project a 10% chance of such a gambit being "successful."
I don't think crossovers sell just because they're crossovers though. Smash had a really engaging type of gameplay, and basically was a boon for multiplayer gaming before online multiplayer on consoles was a big deal. People liked playing with their friends, even back then.
abstract alien
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I don't really think it sounded bad. Maybe disjointed, but not bad. It just sounded like two games in one. Two completely separate games in one.
ScreenSplitter
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Well, combining both SF and Metroid's audience would certainly increase sales. It's odd, if they sold so well you think Nintendo would make more. Guess they're not the franchise whores many make them out to be.
Though saying that, I hope we get a 2D Metroid as well. Prime gameplay is all well and good, but can't beat a sidescroller Metroid can you.
ViewtifulJC
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The whole fucking E3 will be a failure if SF x Metroid is true.
Just typing that out pisses me off like you can't even imagine.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Miyamoto de drop de bomb, bombs dropen.
Portugeezer
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Which is not what I was looking for, so I hope that is fake at least.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
There's like, not a single reasonable argument for combining the Star Fox and Metroid franchises together that doesn't descend into a horrific Sonic-esque fan fiction nightmare.
The gameplay idea is fine, but it's also completely independent from the franchise. It could work with either alone, or neither and instead something new.
Combining Metroid and Star Fox would be just another example of a Japanese publisher losing the plot, disrespecting the concept of thematic consistency and value of an established, respectable and consistent lore in a fictional setting.
I hate it will all my black heart and wish pain and suffering upon those who'd allow such a travesty to exist.
The gameplay idea is fine, but it's also completely independent from the franchise. It could work with either alone, or neither and instead something new.
Combining Metroid and Star Fox would be just another example of a Japanese publisher losing the plot, disrespecting the concept of thematic consistency and value of an established, respectable and consistent lore in a fictional setting.
I hate it will all my black heart and wish pain and suffering upon those who'd allow such a travesty to exist.
Damn.
I'm beginning to wonder if this could really be the year where Nintendo tops 2006. I mean, I don't think that the pad is as fundamentally crazy as the Wiimote, but still.. their studios could have some really big surprises in store.
And we still don't know what the final big surprises regarding the console are..
To channel Iwazaru: We're in a tight spot. This is great! In the name of Harman.
rich's tweets hyping me up but doesnt he do games for ps3 and 360 on ign also?
Demon Lizardman
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Street Fighter X Metroid? Sounds good to me!
ScreenSplitter
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Metroid is perfectly viable. So is Star Fox.
Not every Nintendo game needs to sell 10 million copies to be viable/successful. Games like Metroid expand the user base and diversify Nintendo's lineup. The fact is that Nintendo can finance games that aren't huge sellers precisely because they DO have other huge selling games. If they only cared about the games that sell huge, huge numbers we would have gotten no Last Story, no Xenoblade, no Metroid Prime 3, no Captain Rainbow/ Chibi Robo/ Fire Emblem/ Advanced Wars etc... It would be all Mario, Pokemon, Wii brand, Nintendogs and Donkey Kong. Yet it isn't.
I'm not against a crossover, it could be cool, but that doesn't mean games in the respective franchises aren't worth making from a consumer or producer standpoint.
Betamax? More like beta male
I'm going to have to proclaim ignorance on that question, as I don't go to IGN very often at all.
Our conference rooms are themed. They're mostly based on games, but a few are based on TV shows or movies. Rich was being literal; he was in the Breaking Bad conference room while he was writing.
A few of our rooms: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150693775556633.396992.59685491632&type=3
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm still puzzled by Sonic comparisons.
There are furries. And there are Sonic fans.
I hope it's real just to witness your reaction.
IceDoesntHelp
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I swear to god, if Rich spoils a damn thing I will find him, stalk him and ding dong ditch him for 24 days and nights straight.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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" next, then I will really hate his guts.
Discomurf
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I'd like it to exist because I want to see Retro prove everyone wrong.
You have to bear in mind, they made Metroid the greatest it could be, they 'get' the Metroid lore and atmosphere.
invaderzim69
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So you are saying there is a still a chance then?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Sonic fan fiction is a bizarre Edgar Allen Poe void of horrors beyond imagination. This would be that.
It would be my end. Seriously.
Star Fox has no place in Metroid's lore and atmosphere and vice versa. I don't care how much Retro 'get' Metroid, or Donkey Kong, or how much they might 'get' any other franchise. It's a bastardisation that shouldn't happen.
All my objections have nothing to do with how it would play. It's everything else it represents.
Doesn't matter unless AKI is developing it I say.
ScreenSplitter
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We're getting hyped over tweets from IGN?
IG- "Factor 5 KID ICARUS FOR WII" -N?
I still remember Matt Cassamina saying "I've seens it! I knows it exists! Y'ALL LAUGHED AT ME! BUT IT'LL BE AT NEXT EEEE THREEE!"
IG- "Factor 5 KID ICARUS FOR WII" -N?
I still remember Matt Cassamina saying "I've seens it! I knows it exists! Y'ALL LAUGHED AT ME! BUT IT'LL BE AT NEXT EEEE THREEE!"
Delicious.
bgassassin
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I think it will. But that's my opinion.
Discomurf
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well, technically it did exist
MisterHero
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bottom of page dang
abstract alien
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I don't really think it would be like that honestly. It doesn't sound very nintendo-ish, but I guess they could pull a fast one and slap that on us.
ScreenSplitter
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If you're referring to Uprising, that was nowhere near in dev when Cassamina was ranting like a lunatic.
I'm going to rely on my memory here but I believe Smash Bros was actually how Nintendo was reminding fans of their old characters before reviving them in new games. It was like that with Samus (Metroid Prime/Fusion came after that), then with Kid Icarus... Still, even though they had Earthbound characters in Smash, they never released Mother 3 outside Japan.
Now if you say that neither Metroid or Star Fox are big enough at the moment, it could make sense for such a crossover to be an entirely different genre, something that would sell well and at the same time increase interest in the franchises. But the rumor said that the play styles would be similar to the main Metroid/Star Fox games, and that really does not make sense in this context.
My point is that either Nintendo thinks that these franchises still have good selling potential and they just want to make something new with them, or there is no such crossover.
MisterHero
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So what you're saying is that it's Metroid X StarFox X Halo
Ooh boy. Imagine if Halo came back to 3DS
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Factor 5 were pitching Man Icarus to Nintendo at the time. That's where Cassamawhatever's ranting came from.
Jorok Goldblade
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I'm a little concerned by the fact that it sounds like it has too many game mechanics- with the slow paced FPS Prime game play, space rail shooting, and the fast paced third person platform/shooter Fox foot levels. It could easily be two separate games, and might work better as such. However, I trust Retro to make it work.
It could also be the perfect franchise to put in "Battle Mii" as a multiplayer mode.
abstract alien
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The Prime series sold a couple million each time right?
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