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The Witcher 2: Enhanced Edition |OT| Bow low, you stand before a head crowned.

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Salaadin

Member
BosSin said:
I skim-read the OP and it doesn't give a decisive answer, and I don't want to go through a 70+ page thread to look for a simple answer
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If you have the time and patience to put 40 hours into an older game, do it. Bear in mind that the game can get repetitive and the combat can be either good or sucky depending on who you ask. The story and quests are top notch, though.

Its not really necessary to understand The Witcher 2 though. You can get the basics from wiki, watch the CDPR released backstory videos, and do just fine.
 
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FrankT

Member
Game has been incredible so far.

To the devs; how about a Witcher 1 enhanced edition for 360 games on demand. You have your first sale here.

Hope this does well either way.
 
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BosSin

Member
Salaadin said:
If you have the time and patience to put 40 hours into an older game, do it. Bear in mind that the game can get repetitive and the combat can be either good or sucky depending on who you ask. The story and quests are top notch, though.

Its not really necessary to understand The Witcher 2 though. You can get the basics from wiki, watch the CDPR released backstory videos, and do just fine.
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Thanks mang
 
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RS4-

Member
Well shit, I thought there was new game plus; realized there isn't and now I don't have to bother doing the rest of the side quests in chap 3 since I'm already max level.
 
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Eusis

Member
Derrick01 said:
Never have I wanted to kill a NPC more than those guys. They may as well have made that a timed quest since I got it done as quickly as possible just to shut them up.
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I didn't even need to bother with that quest at that point, but I decided to anyway just so they can keep quiet. Half considered
sticking with my original failure too: shutting them up is the REAL reward, though it'd be nice to get some EXP.
 
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Fjordson

Member
I am continually impressed by what CDPR was able to get out of the 360.

Something about the light filtering down through the trees while exploring the forest around Flotsam is great. Same goes for the lighting indoors and off torches and whatnot. All looks great.

Also love the character models and all the detail on their stuff. Especially Roche with his numerous buckles and ballin' medallion.

For now, I'm intent on finding some new armor for Geralt that doesn't have a hood. Not his best look, imo.
 
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2AdEPT

Member
SerArthurDayne said:
I just trolled the Kayran on Dark mode.

I take back what I said earlier.
Letho is much harder, at least once you have some practice on the Kayran. I actually figured out is is better to get hit. Quen, yrden, let the tentacle smash you. Tentacle smash breaks quen, and that allows you to recharge vigor while you chop off the tentacle. Then recast quen while he is raging, rinse, and repeat.
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I agree its important to stand inside or at least very near your yrden circle, but you can dodge at the last minute and its still better than getting slammed!! ;p There is a slight tell when the kayran is going to slam down with the tentacle. For the third one I positioned myself where I thought the yrden should be, pressed b for yrden, rolled away, tentacle slammed just after, chopped tentacle all in about 5 seconds...pretty sure that's the best/most efficient outcome possible?!??
 
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SerArthurDayne

Member
2AdEPT said:
I agree its important to stand inside or at least very near your yrden circle, but you can dodge at the last minute and its still better than getting slammed!! ;p There is a slight tell when the kayran is going to slam down with the tentacle. For the third one I positioned myself where I thought the yrden should be, pressed b for yrden, rolled away, tentacle slammed just after, chopped tentacle all in about 5 seconds...pretty sure that's the best/most efficient outcome possible?!??
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Nah, man. I know you can dodge, but Quen lasts too long if you don't get hit. Even if you get hit you still have plenty of time to get up, chop and go, with vigor recharging the whole time. If you don't get hit you might not have enough vigor to cast yrden. Of course, you don't need quen at all, but it is nice to have on in case you get too close and get sideswiped.
 
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Gattsu25

Banned
SerArthurDayne said:
Nah, man. I know you can dodge, but Quen lasts too long if you don't get hit. Even if you get hit you still have plenty of time to get up, chop and go, with vigor recharging the whole time. If you don't get hit you might not have enough vigor to cast yrden. Of course, you don't need quen at all, but it is nice to have on in case you get too close and get sideswiped.
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I have only cast Quen once in my entire playthrough, so far. Currently up to chapter 2
 
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SerArthurDayne

Member
I don't need it, but I like it. I rarely used it on my normal, but i liken it to the armor from Ghouls and Goblins in Dark mode. You can mess up once and get a mulligan. Sometimes the camera is a bitch when you are rolling, and that is when I really get the most out of it.
 
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2AdEPT

Member
SerArthurDayne said:
Nah, man. I know you can dodge, but Quen lasts too long if you don't get hit. Even if you get hit you still have plenty of time to get up, chop and go, with vigor recharging the whole time. If you don't get hit you might not have enough vigor to cast yrden. Of course, you don't need quen at all, but it is nice to have on in case you get too close and get sideswiped.
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Didn't even realize the vigor doesn't replenish with quen on...there have been acouple times I was dumbfounded waiting an eternity for the vigor to return..makes sense. I took all the perks that ensured I had as much vigor points and best regen for all choices in the magic tree. oNce I got four points I rarely ran low.

on a related note, I am noticing that they did indeed makesome of the enemies a little harder in act 3 perhaps to balance the skills acquisiiton later in the game...the golem in the one gargoyle basement took me a few tries in such close quarters....until
I realized he didn't come up the stairs after you unless he was positioned right in front of the door for his rage rush.
Just abused that aspect to recharge and get ready for another melee. The
operator
is obviously really tough as well...I have been able to turn off 3 of the 4
braziers
albeit not all at the same time.....didn't stop the spawned helpers form appearing the first time when I had 2/4 off, but not sure if you need two or all or what, or whether it just helps respawns not orignal spawns....... I seriously hope that the poster who siad it helps that fight wasn't BSing on purpose!!!!!!!!!!!! The fact that there isn't anything on this in teh wikis is suspicious, except that it is indeed so difficult to get all these off that most would have given up trying for sure. I have sadly poured at least 3 hours into trying to get those
braziers
off! It really is arbitrary for the most part where to stand to get a shot at it...pretyy much have to sheath your weapon is confirmed, standing in the corner under cover and runnign around in circles with the camera pointing straight down has gotten me a couple shots in one corner...the one on the left of the door comes on pretty much every time just standing directly behind the pillar and facing it...two of the four are hard and one I have never engaged with (far side right iirc). MOst I have ever had off at once is 2 and not on the same side..hoping all you need is the two door ones and the others are unnecesary...as the OP said "2" in order to stop respawns.

Question: was the
escort Brigida out of town
quest one of the new content quests for the EE?? Doesn't seem like it with the excessive loot you get but wasn't listed on old wiki wlakthorugh lists. When doing that quest make sure to
hit the caves in the forest first before pushing on!!!!
so satisfying to have a
queen endrega
as an ally, and then only have her left with 1/3 health to finish her off!
 
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Jay Shadow

Member
I beat that
Letho
fight on the first try, and I have no idea why since everyone else has problems with it and I died a ton everywhere else in the game. Maybe my original Alchemy build came in handy for something.
 
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toastyToast

Member
I'm surprised at how much trouble people are having with the Kayran fight. I mean,
you've got Sile shouting at you to use Yrden and that's pretty much all you need to do. Only other tips are to make sure you're near the sides when it starts thrashing around. Also, have Quen active when moving between spots just in case.

I thought it was too 'cinematic' and predictable, but not hard. Unless you consider having a heavily telegraphed instant kill being hard.
 
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Grisby

Member
Got to CH2. Went ahead and chose to go with
Roche.
I'm a bit overwhelmed by all of the story stuff thats been going on. I'm glad I got a handle on the world through the books or I wouldn't be nearly as interested.

Also, I died way more in CH1's forest against regular dudes then some of the chapter's end bosses. Died about 4 times on the
Kayran
and only once against
Letho.
*smugdog.jpeg*
 
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EternalGamer

Banned
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
 
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Lingitiz

Member
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.
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You've got to be kidding me. A choice that changes about 1/3 of the game has no importance?
 
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Gattsu25

Banned
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
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I've only listened to 2 episodes of that show and even those were over a year ago IIRC...is he the one that sounds chronically depressed?
 
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Felix Lighter

Member
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
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Sounds like a shitty way to preemptively invalidate any arguments against his own. It's a childish or insecure way of presenting your opinion.
 
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Solo

Member
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
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he mad
 
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Salaadin

Member
If the game isnt great and PC gamers were only praising it so they can have something over console gamers, how exactly does he explain the generally good reviews and impressions for the console version? Why do they like it?

It sounds like the game just isnt his cup of tea. Why he needs to come up with an excuse like that, I dont know.
 
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Gattsu25

Banned
Salaadin said:
If the game isnt great and PC gamers were only praising it so they can have something over console gamers, how exactly does he explain the generally good reviews and impressions for the console version? Why do they like it?

It sounds like the game just isnt his cup of tea. Why he needs to come up with an excuse like that, I dont know.
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He wants to troll for listens
 
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Felix Lighter

Member
Oh I remember that guy. He's the guy who led that podcast defending the Mass Effect 3 ending and used some of the same douchey tactics to attack those who disagreed. He's a jerk or at least he likes playing the role of a jerk.
 
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EternalGamer

Banned
Direct quotes from Arthur Gies:
Arthur Gies said:
"Every character looks like a fucking maniquin. I don't like the visual design. None of the characters are relatable. It's slapped together. "

"The 360 version that came out this week is a more impressive game from a overall visual perspective from the PC version that came out a year ago."

"There have been so many people who try to beat the drum of "you choices in Witcher 2 are more meaningful than any other game. I am not seeing that at all. Witcher 2 is like a medieval Fable."

"The only thing you do in that fucking game is combat."

"This game is like Fable. It's Fable with tits."
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This dude gets paid to play, write, and talk about videogames.

Matt Chandronay said:
"I can't help but wonder, and as PC gamer I can say this, that they were just so happy that they got a game that they could loured over console gamers."
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Berto

Member
In Dark mode I tryed to beat
Letho
on chap I with no potions and all that stuff, i almost got him. Then on the second try with all potions/oils it was a walk in the park. Impressive how dark mode is improving my combat skills.
 
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Vulcano's assistant

Banned
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
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What do you want us to do about this? It is not like I'm going to listen to the podcast or give him hits.

The game is superb I can tell you that. I still like the story of the first one better.
 
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Hero_of_the_Day

Member
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM...
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I don't know what Rebel FM is. But, I don't like those people or their dumb thoughts.


Jay Shadow said:
I beat that
Letho
fight on the first try, and I have no idea why since everyone else has problems with it.
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Both playthroughs I beat him no problem. I used Yrden and he went down like a cheap whore. This was of course after they toned him down. Never fought Mega-Letho.
 
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Varna

Member
Kayran on Dark mode wasn't too rough. Took three attempts.

Is the exclusive dark mode items the only way to not get killed in a single hit from the bosses?
Letho
fight is going to be crazy.
 
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SpacePirate Ridley

Member
upJTboogie said:
The worst was "Ooooodrin!"
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Chinner said:
oh god i hate ooooooooordin..
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Salaadin said:
This.


Ooooodrin! Heeeere boy!
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Derrick01 said:
Never have I wanted to kill a NPC more than those guys. They may as well have made that a timed quest since I got it done as quickly as possible just to shut them up.
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And the fucking song this sing repeatly when you are carrying him.

FUN FACT! (not for me lol), and act II spoilers.
Was doing the three sisters quest and
just got to the time were you have to talk to Mavrick if he killed her sisters, I wanted to talk more to him but I choose the bad question and he went running. So I see the door of the camp he has behind after this (never had used it before) and found fucking odrin at last infront of a cave. For finishing the fucking Odrin quest at last I decided to carry him inside and do that quest. After the quest (and failing in the questions having to repeat again carrying him), I remember the cave so i go inside to see what it has inside. Has cool things, and even an Earth Element monster and a Bullvoulus (I dont remember his name very well), had some problems with the Earth guy but with some potions and tricks I could kill it, get all the loot out of the cave (BTW there was a beach with a shipwreck outside one of the caves exits and found really starnge that anything had loot there) and continue the three sisters quest.
1 hour since I talk to Mavrick for the last time I find his body shreds into pieces in the beach becuase the fucking spirit lied to me. Quest Failed.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, no I want to repeat the whole thing again.
Odriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!
Better tomorrow.

EternalGamer said:
Direct quotes from Arthur Gies:
"Every character looks like a fucking maniquin. I don't like the visual design. None of the characters are relatable. It's slapped together. "

"The 360 version that came out this week is a more impressive game from a overall visual perspective from the PC version that came out a year ago."

"There have been so many people who try to beat the drum of "you choices in Witcher 2 are more meaningful than any other game. I am not seeing that at all. Witcher 2 is like a medieval Fable."

"The only thing you do in that fucking game is combat."
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This dude gets paid to play, write, and talk about videogames.
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What. the. fuck.
This shit is insane.
 
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Digoman

Member
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.
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Yeah.. thats factually false. No ifs, buts, or "it's matter of opinion". Act 2 is different, as in a completely new area, with new quest chains, new characters and new cutscenes, depending on your choice. Act 3 and the ending also have enormous differences depending on how you got there. And that's not counting smaller consequences during the game.

Combat can be argued, but there is also now way one could say ""Every character looks like a fucking maniquin", at least no more then every other game out there.

Don't know who he is, but either he didn't play the game and is misinformed, or more likely, is just trolling for hits, so is not really worth to argue every other point he makes.
 
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dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
EternalGamer said:
In last week's Rebel FM, Arthur Gies said this game is not very good because the combat is clunky, the models animate poorly, and there is no real importance placed on your choices.

Both he and compatriots also claimed that people who think this game has a better storyline than Bioware games probably didn't play Bioware games and that the only reason PC players probably praised this game was because they wanted something to lourd over console gamers.

Gies is always pseudo-humble in proclaiming his views on the specific aspects of games he dislikes are objective explanations of the game while still claiming his overall opinion is subjective. Sometimes, however, he is right despite being super douchey pretty much all the time.

Does GAF think these criticisms are objective evaluations the way Gies claims? Is it true that the reason the game was because PC gamers want to rub poo poo in console gamers' faces? Matt claimed he knows this to be the case because he is a PC gamer and he knows how PC gamers think.

(No, I'm not kidding).
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Not surprising. I am embarrassed I used to give that podcast weekly listens.
 
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EternalGamer

Banned
Digoman said:
Yeah.. thats factually false. No ifs, buts, or "it's matter of opinion". Act 2 is different, as in a completely new area, with new quest chains, new characters and new cutscenes, depending on your choice. Act 3 and the ending also have enormous differences depending on how you got there. And that's not counting smaller consequences during the game.

Combat can be argued, but there is also now way one could say ""Every character looks like a fucking maniquin", at least no more then every other game out there.

Don't know who he is, but either he didn't play the game and is misinformed, or more likely, is just trolling for hits, so is not really worth to argue every other point he makes.
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He left IGN to work at Joystiq and then left Joystiq to go work at Polygon, the website that is supposedly a start up by all the videogame writing superstars.
 
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