• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |OT2| Wanted to find Ciri, but everything Gwent wrong

Status
Not open for further replies.
I am enjoying this game a lot.

Cutscenes and storytelling is so much more compelling and enjoyable than Dragon Age. The facial animations add so much genuine emotion, unlike the stiff faces of most other games (lip syncing seems a tiny bit off, or somewhat wooden with some words)

Combat is serviceable, though I haven't played much of it. Though I wish one day we'd get a Souls-lite sort of gameplay in a big RPG like this. Are there any RPGs with great combat anyway?

I did a sidequest regarding a haunted well. Really liked it. I enjoy that so far, quests are easy to follow and understand. I am not overwhelmed like in Dragon Age with a bunch of meaningless fetch quests. I will slowly take on quests as they come, and seeing as they are apparently mostly done well, I'm excited for it.

One thing, I wish I could talk to people while on my horse. I hate getting off just to talk to someone. The world is so vibrant. It's so nice to play an RPG with such a vibrant world.

Are all the states connected? Or do you have to fast travel to them, like in Dragon Age Inquisition?

Lastly, I need to try and get some background info and past characters and games and stories. Can anyone help (Witcher 1/2 spoilers I guess):

Is Ciri actually adopted? She has white hair, which made me think she was Geralt and Yen's.

Where did Ciri go?

What is her Father's history with Geralt and Yen?

Right now, there's a war between the powerful South, and which North army? So far, they are just attacking villages in the way. Does Geralt not care? He's not involved in the war, right? It's just a backdrop, or did he have a part in it? Is the war simply over land, or does it involve the resulting presence of magic/monsters?

What is Geralt even doing at the beginning of the game? He's tracking Yen, but why and how? What led him to that situation, and why is he so close to finding her? What does he want? Where was Yen going in that opening cinematic?
 

Mendax

Member
guys have you seen this. fkn hilarious!
7rjppjh.gif
 

Virdix

Member
Pretty sure im about to start the final battle, but i need to go to bed and get 5 hours of sleep. Cant play again till saturday :(

The game is so good, gets a little easy on BaBB, looking forward to Death March and trying some Alchemy/ and more sign heavy than just Quen and Axii

Also disappointed that I havent seen, Witcher 2 non? Returning character,
Iorveth
 

Virdix

Member
In trying to save one girl you ensured that more girls would be murdered.
I understand playing with some directness, but that was essentially a detective mission. Not a "hack=slash-ask-questions-later" mission.
Well that explains why i keep finding "Concerned Citizens Sermons" around Novigrad... damnit.
 
I am enjoying this game a lot.

Cutscenes and storytelling is so much more compelling and enjoyable than Dragon Age. The facial animations add so much genuine emotion, unlike the stiff faces of most other games (lip syncing seems a tiny bit off, or somewhat wooden with some words)

Combat is serviceable, though I haven't played much of it. Though I wish one day we'd get a Souls-lite sort of gameplay in a big RPG like this. Are there any RPGs with great combat anyway?

I did a sidequest regarding a haunted well. Really liked it. I enjoy that so far, quests are easy to follow and understand. I am not overwhelmed like in Dragon Age with a bunch of meaningless fetch quests. I will slowly take on quests as they come, and seeing as they are apparently mostly done well, I'm excited for it.

Dont mind the fidgety movement, though it'd be better to not have it.

One thing, I wish I could talk to people while on my horse. I hate getting off just to talk to someone.

The world is so vibrant. It's so nice to play an RPG with such a vibrant world. There's Oblivion too, but this game really looks like one of those 80s medieval cartoons where everything is nice and bright.

Are all the states connected? Or do you have to fast travel to them, like in Dragon Age Inquisition?

Lastly, I need to try and get some background info and past characters and games and stories. Can anyone help (Witcher 1/2 spoilers I guess):

Is Ciri actually adopted? She has white hair, which made me think she was Geralt and Yen's.

Where did Ciri go?

What is her Father's history with Geralt and Yen?

Right now, there's a war between the powerful South, and which North army? So far, they are just attacking villages in the way. Does Geralt not care? He's not involved in the war, right? It's just a backdrop, or did he have a part in it? Is the war simply over land, or does it involve the resulting presence of magic/monsters?

What is Geralt even doing at the beginning of the game? He's tracking Yen, but why and how? What led him to that situation, and why is he so close to finding her? What does he want? Where was Yen going in that opening cinematic?

You should watch this if you don't mind Witcher 2 spoilers. It explains a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSftIRQzYCM
The south army is the Nilfgardian empire they are the equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire, the North was comprised of various states but because of the events of the Witcher 2 most of the kings are dead and the strongest one Radovid has decided to conquer the north for himself in an effort to expand his state (Redania) while getting support by claiming he's doing it to stop the Nilfgardian invasion.

Ciri is the daughter of the Nilfgardian emperor, Geralt adopted her, she is a destined child that can travel through space and time.

Geralt is after Yennefer because he got his memory back in The Witcher 2 and remembered her. Yennefer is there because she found out that Ciri came back from her trip around the worlds. She is also chased by the mysterious Wild Hunt, beings from a different world.

The rest you'll gather through playing the Witcher 3.
 

Apt101

Member
I don't like Yennifer. She seems cruel and self involved deep down. Glad I romanced Triss - going to try and make a happy ending between her and Geralt. I do feel bad about it though, as Yen and Geralt clearly have a deep connection and raised Ciri together. Oh well. Geralt is cat daddy supreme, I suppose I'll play through again and choose Yen the next time.
 

nib95

Banned
This game is incredible. I swam across to Oxenfurt because the dolt at the gate wanted a pass I didn't have. Then I continued to craft all of my Griffin gear (both weapons and armours), beat everyone in the city at Gwent (took several attempts with the Inn keeper and Blacksmith), and bought a load of stuff. Feels great. Now all I want is some better Glyphs etc for my weapons. Don't like seeing the word "lesser" in-front of them.

Found my new wallpaper from Reddit:

Wlw9lOu.jpg


It's a fan art. Amazing work.

Is there a 4k version of this any where?
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Holy crap. You can Axii something like that character? That's redonkulous.

You can Axii anything as far as I can tell. And despite only having like 2 points in the tree the damage output of the mind controlled people is huge, to say nothing of the natural benefit of pulling aggro off you.
 
I don't like Yennifer. She seems cruel and self involved deep down. Glad I romanced Triss - going to try and make a happy ending between her and Geralt. I do feel bad about it though, as Yen and Geralt clearly have a deep connection and raised Ciri together. Oh well. Geralt is cat daddy supreme, I suppose I'll play through again and choose Yen the next time.

She's not really cruel, she just calls out everyone on their bullshit and won't let anything stop her in saving her loved ones. She has some really great lines.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Is Ciri actually adopted? She has white hair, which made me think she was Geralt and Yen's.

Where did Ciri go?

What is her Father's history with Geralt and Yen?

Right now, there's a war between the powerful South, and which North army? So far, they are just attacking villages in the way. Does Geralt not care? He's not involved in the war, right? It's just a backdrop, or did he have a part in it? Is the war simply over land, or does it involve the resulting presence of magic/monsters?

What is Geralt even doing at the beginning of the game? He's tracking Yen, but why and how? What led him to that situation, and why is he so close to finding her? What does he want? Where was Yen going in that opening cinematic?

Much of this is from the books.

1. Yes, she's adopted. She is Emhyr's daughter (Emporer of Nilfgaard). Geralt and Yennefer practically raised her.

2. She fucked around in the world of the Aen Elle for a bit, which is where the Wild Hunt come from.

3. Someone else should answer this.

4. Divided The Continent into thirds. Bottom two thirds have been the Nilfgaard Empire for a long time. Top third has been the Northern Kingdoms, split into different regions ruled mostly by four different kings. The plot of The Witcher 2 has Nilfgaard preparing for another invasion, seeding chaos into the north by having kings assassinated. By the end two of the four kings are dead, and by the time Wild Hunt starts a third is offed too. All that's left is King Radovid, who rules Redania, but more or less is ruling everyone he can now since the competition is dead. It's a backdrop, but an important backdrop. This is Nilfgaard's third invasion of the North, and they're very imperialistic and force their culture on everything they rule. The North is "free", but Radovid as a king hates mages and non-humans so persecution is ripe (Radovid harbours the Witch Hunters). Witchers are supposed to stay neutral and out of politics, but this "code" is only goes as far as you're willing to let it. The war is predominantly over land and empires, just typical stuff.

5. Yen and Geralt were lovers, and at the end of the books practically die before being saved by Ciri. The first game begins with Geralt waking up with amnesia, the last two games mostly about him recovering his memory. By the end of the second game he learns that after the end of the books the Wild Hunt appeared and stole Yennefer. Geralt tracked them down and offered his own life in return for hers. He somehow escaped, and then the games start. At the end of The Witcher 2 Geralt has remembered most of Yennefer and learns she is in Nilfgaard, and is insistent on tracking her down. Then the Nilfgaard invasion begins. Wild Hunt begins some time after The Witcher 2. Geralt has recovered all his memories. Yennefer out of the blue has contacted him and asked to meet, saying she has something important to discuss. Geralt is tracking her, the original meeting plan having been muddled by the chaos of the war.

I don't like Yennifer. She seems cruel and self involved deep down. Glad I romanced Triss - going to try and make a happy ending between her and Geralt. I do feel bad about it though, as Yen and Geralt clearly have a deep connection and raised Ciri together. Oh well. Geralt is cat daddy supreme, I suppose I'll play through again and choose Yen the next time.

They're very different characters with distinct personalities, but one thing to understand with Yennefer is that behind her cold, authoritarian personality is someone who still genuinely loves the people in her life. Triss is warmer and softer. Yen just doesn't fuck around and has no time for bullshit. She's Queen Bee.
 
Thanks Eatchildren and ghostmaster!

Question: I'm on PS4. I got to the next state in the first 3 hours or so, so it's after
finding Yen
, but should I stop playing?

I'm hearing about XP bugs, and also about framerate issues. I'd like to wait for another patch, but is that soon?

Seems some people are having problems pop up, and I don't want to get far and have the framerate get ruined, or run into a big bug.
 
Lastly, I need to try and get some background info and past characters and games and stories. Can anyone help (Witcher 1/2 spoilers I guess):
[/SPOILER]
For a super lazy response, you might consider reading these:

Kotaku Primer
Polygon Primer

That's what I did before I got too far in the game, and I think it helped immensely. As for a less lazy response, I see you already got some responses, but here goes anyways:
Is Ciri actually adopted? She has white hair, which made me think she was Geralt and Yen's.
Geralt lifted a curse from her dad and when asked what he wanted for a reward, he utilized the Law of Surprise (a traditional Witcher thing) which claims "that which you have but do not know you have." That ended up being Ciri, since the dude didn't realize his wife was pregnant. Geralt doesn't take her right away, but more or less, years later, he takes her in and takes her to train as a Witcher (even though she can't be a full Witcher as a woman). So TL;DR, yeah she's pretty much his adopted daughter.

Where did Ciri go?
She's pretty much a master of space and time (corny as that sounds), so she traveled all over. Knowing more than that might spoil the plot too much

Does Geralt not care?
Witchers claim to be politically neutral, but in some ways I think you could argue he does care. Not so much about a homeland or anything like patriotism, but he might care based on how the political situation affects his loved ones.
 

borborygmus

Member
I don't like Yennifer. She seems cruel and self involved deep down. Glad I romanced Triss - going to try and make a happy ending between her and Geralt. I do feel bad about it though, as Yen and Geralt clearly have a deep connection and raised Ciri together. Oh well. Geralt is cat daddy supreme, I suppose I'll play through again and choose Yen the next time.

Info from past games, spoilered just in case:
Triss took advantage of Geralt's amnesia to get with him. In the first game, she seemed to be plotting something with the Lodge of Sorceresses, behind Geralt's back.

So they are pretty much even personality-wise, though I'm not sure whether Triss's personality change after the first game is a retcon, or simply character development.

Witcher 3 'spoilers' regarding Yennefer:

Yennefer's quest to dispel Geralt's wish that they be together forever tells us that Geralt made that wish some time before the events of the first game. Triss was around back then and yet he went for Yennefer, so I still find that Yennefer makes the most sense for Geralt to end up with.

Geralt lifted a curse from her dad and when asked what he wanted for a reward, he utilized the Law of Surprise (a traditional Witcher thing) which claims "that which you have but do not know you have." That ended up being Ciri, since the dude didn't realize his wife was pregnant. Geralt doesn't take her right away, but more or less, years later, he takes her in and takes her to train as a Witcher (even though she can't be a full Witcher as a woman). So TL;DR, yeah she's pretty much his adopted daughter.

Then what is
Emhyr's
claim to
Ciri
?
On what basis is he commanding you to find her?
 
D

Deleted member 471617

Unconfirmed Member
Well, the ini files reference DLC costumes for Ciri and Triss. Also, more Gwent cards.

Are the 16 DLC packs already on the disc for PS4? If so, CDPR should just unlock them all already instead of two a week for eight weeks.
 

diamount

Banned
They're very different characters with distinct personalities, but one thing to understand with Yennefer is that behind her cold, authoritarian personality is someone who still genuinely loves the people in her life. Triss is warmer and softer. Yen just doesn't fuck around and has no time for bullshit. She's Queen Bee.

Not to mention she has a good 70 years on Triss.
 
So about Yennefer's quest


The Last Wish, I been reading what Others wrote when they turn down Yen. I turned her down, told her i dont love her anymore. People say she teleports you to the middle of a lake and is mad at you? She did neither at me. She was just sad and regretted taking away the wish for me. That is all. Odd how others got something different.
 

murgo

Member
Well that sucks. I don't think it's affecting me, though I haven't really properly checked either. Hmmm….

I thought I wasn't affected as well, then I did the Broken Flowers quest in Novigrad. Recommended level was 11, I was 14 and didn't get XP. Should've gotten a few hundred..
 
^ Thanks a lot again.

Sorry, one last question. If this world of monsters and magic mixed in with the normal world (how long ago was this?), why is there war between humans? You would think the north and south would unite.

Or was that invasion so long ago that monsters just live in certain parts of the world by themselves, and everyone accepts it? I got the idea from the intro that the other realm invaded the human world, but it seems like it just explains that they exist, but they are not necessarily trying to kill everyone.

How big is the mage population? In a game like Dragon Age, it's a central plot point, and it makes sense since you either are magical or not, and magic has power.

But most people in this game seem human so far, unless the mage population lives together on another land? Do they go around effing shit up? Are they not a big presence?


Edit: will read and watch links provided. Thanks again
 
I don't like Yennifer. She seems cruel and self involved deep down. Glad I romanced Triss - going to try and make a happy ending between her and Geralt. I do feel bad about it though, as Yen and Geralt clearly have a deep connection and raised Ciri together. Oh well. Geralt is cat daddy supreme, I suppose I'll play through again and choose Yen the next time.
I hate to repeat myself, but I think it bears repeating so that Yen doesn't just get a pure "bitch reputation." Yes, she's biting, sarcastic and very direct (perhaps to the point of insensitivity). But, she does love people immensely (like Ciri and Geralt). In terms of her attitude towards Geralt, I think people really don't understand the history of the plot if they're seeing it as meanness or something. Geralt developed amnesia. Triss used this as an opportunity to hook up with him and try to pull him away from Yen (who he had been with for a long time). Triss was/is? one of Yen's best friends. How would you act towards a significant other that slept with your best friend? So yes, Yen is harsh, sarcastic and sometimes even a little mean. Triss on the other hand, under her fun, "nice" exterior is also manipulative and took advantage of Geralt on more than one occasion. I can see having a preference for one, but it's not like one is some shining angel.
Then what is
Emhyr's
claim to
Ciri
?
Well he is her "real dad" so ostensibly he would claim to care about her, but really I'm pretty sure he has some serious political motivation to wanting her to come be by his side. Also, he's a freaking king with money. He can order you around, and Witchers do jobs for money. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Just finished
"The Bloody Baron"
questline. Amazing. Most games don't have a story for the entire game as intricate as that. Probably the best storyline I have ever played in a game.

I chose to
save the Orphans
. So
everyone died but Tamarra
(as I think she is alive). Did I make the right choice?
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
^ Thanks a lot again.

Sorry, one last question. If this world of monsters and magic mixed in with the normal world (how long ago was this?), why is there war between humans? You would think the north and south would unite.

Or was that invasion so long ago that monsters just live in certain parts of the world by themselves, and everyone accepts it? I got the idea from the intro that the other realm invaded the human world, but it seems like it just explains that they exist, but they are not necessarily trying to kill everyone.

How big is the mage population? In a game like Dragon Age, it's a central plot point, and it makes sense since you either are magical or not, and magic has power.

But most people in this game seem human so far, unless the mage population lives together on another land? Do they go around effing shit up? Are they not a big presence?

The world is mixed with magic and monsters due to an event known as the Conjunction of Spheres that happened thousands of years before the story. Essentially alternate dimensions converged, trapping many monsters/magic/unnatural beings in this world. War is war. Witcher series relies heavily on somewhat realistic politics in that power typically corrupts. In short, there's no reason for anybody to get along when lands can be conquered. The Continent was home to Dwarves and Halflings first, then Elves arrived and set up their cities. Humans arrived afterwards, went to war with the Elves to claim the lands, and that's where we're at. Humans rule the roost, and the hatred towards elves/non-humans is basically just racism. Humans war with each other because there's a lot of kings/empires who claim authority.

Mage population is biggish I guess, but it's a bit different from other games. Other stories have mages a dime a dozen. The Witcher universe looks at magic like kind of a big deal. As in, imagine if someone could cast fireballs and shit alongside knights. People who become mages are born with a sensitivity to magic, and are known as Sources. With the right training they can harness that power, but many go insane without said training due to the intensity and challenge of being a Source. Naturally the power that Sources wield leads to a lot of people being wary of them. They're just people though, not a race or anything. People born with high sensitivity to magic.

EDIT: From memory Triss is actually allergic to magic.
 
Just finished
"The Bloody Baron"
questline. Amazing. Most games don't have a story for the entire game as intricate as that. Probably the best storyline I have ever played in a game.

I chose to
save the Orphans
. So
everyone died but Tamarra
(as I think she is alive). Did I make the right choice?

There's no right or wrong choice in this game. :D
 
Sorry, one last question. If this world of monsters and magic mixed in with the normal world (how long ago was this?), why is there war between humans? You would think the north and south would unite.
It's mentioned in the intro speech by the old man that is happened in the Conjunction of the Spheres, which happened 1,500 years prior to the books.
 

Verger

Banned
Finally left White Orchard

Holy shit. as soon as I began looking at the Velen map I started zooming out and realized it was zooming out far, and then realized I could pan the map around and it just kept on going on and on.

How the hell did CD Project do it? I remember people being utterly impressed by the size and scope of Dragon Age Inquisition's Hinterlands, but these areas just seem to trump that not only in size, but in detail too.


But yeah, so now that I'm in Valen, I want to do exploring. But I don't want to do it nearing my darned encumbrance limit. Where can I find Merchant/Forge/New Saddles to ease my burden?


And as for The whole Triss/Yen thing. I personally have never really liked or trusted Triss. She was pretty damn manipulative in Witcher 1, and I sort of preferred some of the other girls for romances. I guess she didn't bother me that much in W2, but then again I didn't spend much time with her and stayed by Roche's side the majority of the game. And yeah, Yen may not make a good first impression here on the face of things, but there's clearly more depth to her than seen in initial encounters.


As for the whole "Source" thing. Wasn't one of the big plot points of Witcher 1 that the child Alvin was a source? And then he
ended up becoming evil in the Grand Master Jaque de Aldesberg
. I believe one of the options in the ending was to give his soul to the King of the Wild Hunt as well.
 

Huggers

Member
Massive modern rpg ignorance incoming. Trying to get an idea of whether I'll enjoy this game. I've never played it's prequels. I generally haven't enjoyed modern rpgs, both Mass Effect and Fallout 3 weren't my cup of tea at all and I got bored fast. That said I like the look of this and need something new to play. Any thoughts Gaf?
 
Massive modern rpg ignorance incoming. Trying to get an idea of whether I'll enjoy this game. I've never played it's prequels. I generally haven't enjoyed modern rpgs, both Mass Effect and Fallout 3 weren't my cup of tea at all and I got bored fast. That said I like the look of this and need something new to play. Any thoughts Gaf?

what exactly is it you find offputting in other games that you're worried about? What did they lacked that presumably appealed to you in older RPGs?
 

Dominator

Member
Fuck... Seems like I hit the XP bug. I was doing a few side missions and I acquired XP for them but then I just finished two story ones and I got nothing. Guess I'm done playing until that's patched :(

I'm really addicted to this game too so it's a shame. Seems to being only main quests that are affected by this.
 
If I told Triss to
leave with the mages, will she still return in main quests?
I can't seem to find a straight answer.
Some people seem to claim that if you say "stay" for the first dialogue option and then "go," she'll return later.
EDIT: From memory Triss is actually allergic to magic.
Total tangent, but I still don't get if she's allergic to magic or magical potions. Because if she's allergic to magic itself, does that mean she's naturally beautiful, rather than the other sorceresses who have changed their appearance?
 

Huggers

Member
what exactly is it you find offputting in other games that you're worried about? What did they lacked that presumably appealed to you in older RPGs?

I think a lack of direction and perhaps too open a world. In the case of Mass Effect everywhere felling lifeless. It's hard to really pin point it. I haven't ever been huge on rpgs but every now and then one has grabbed me, FFX for example. A lot of the Zeldas too. Is it worth taking a gamble on this for me? Realise without knowing me it's hard to say but really any input will be helpful
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom