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The Witness |OT|
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The Omega Man
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How do you check your progress on PC?
That's the largest sticking point. Steam sales and free monthly games have really spoiled consumers and created this artificial stump in value perceived of indie games and to a lesser extent AAA titles.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Thanks so much. Now I feel really dumb I didn't think to just make one continuous block to encompass all the blue pieces
Aces&Eights
Member
This game is of more value to me than a ton of 60.00 "AAA" games out there. Great art design, really clever puzzles, hidden secrets and just really pulls you in. Havnt felt this way about a game since I played Demons Souls for the first time.
reposting cause it may have been buried at the bottom
GwyndolinCinder
Member
This finale is just straight up messing with you for jokes.
I've only played a bit, but I'm already a tad disappointed.
The fun part about Myst is discovering how devices and concepts work in the different ages.
The fun part about The Witness is discovering how the different line puzzles work. However, once you figure out the concept, actually solving the puzzles is a tedious exercise.
The puzzles feel arbitrary and don't really contribute to the world all that much. I almost feel like I'd rather just hit a switch than solve another line puzzle.
The fun part about Myst is discovering how devices and concepts work in the different ages.
The fun part about The Witness is discovering how the different line puzzles work. However, once you figure out the concept, actually solving the puzzles is a tedious exercise.
The puzzles feel arbitrary and don't really contribute to the world all that much. I almost feel like I'd rather just hit a switch than solve another line puzzle.
So, I think I'm well into the endgame after about
hours, with
puzzles down.
I think people getting stuck have a bad mentality for how to tackle open-worlds and puzzles. And be willing to bust out the notebook; once you've decided to use a pen and paper, you've pretty much beaten the puzzle.
Keep playing, IMO. There's a few areas that are kind of overkill with basic puzzles, but most of the areas have very cool themes.
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I think people getting stuck have a bad mentality for how to tackle open-worlds and puzzles. And be willing to bust out the notebook; once you've decided to use a pen and paper, you've pretty much beaten the puzzle.
Keep playing, IMO. There's a few areas that are kind of overkill with basic puzzles, but most of the areas have very cool themes.
Attleborotaco
Member
So im currently downloading this game. Anything i should know before i start the game?
Freeman76
Member
Have you even read this thread lol
The less you know the better. Get a notepad ready, though.
Remembrance
Member
Go into the load game menu to check your progress.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I need help and I don't even know how to explain where I am without giving away something but I will try. It's near the beach kind of, near the bamboo forest kind of. This first spoiler explains exactly what puzzle I'm talking about:
The one where you have to use the bird sounds to create sound waves.
So anyway, I've got them all except for what I assume is the last one, which I'm totally blank on. It seems to be like three different sounds played on top of each other. I can't make out which one I'm supposed to focus on. I've listened to it 50 times and cannot tell what's going on.
Also, where is there random a phone ringing, a horn honking, and glass shattering? Just to throw you off?
Also, where is there random a phone ringing, a horn honking, and glass shattering? Just to throw you off?
boredJonathan
Member
Was feeling this way last night myself. Was really enjoying the overall experience, and when I'd get stumped I'd take the advice to wander off to something else. Then I wander into the Tetris area puzzles and... frustration.
I think part of the problem, for me, is that the tutorial section didn't elaborate one of the key variations. Specifically,
the last two or three tutorial panels. As far as I can see, only ONE tries to teach you the concept that the pieces can be laid out in any order as long as all are included in the outline. It left way too much open to interpretation in my opinion. I didn't read that panel as teaching me I could arrange them in any order, I took it as that you 'read' the panel from left to right. The bridge to cross showed there could be some variability in the placement, but it still fit my "read left to right" solution/mechanic.
Granted, when I got to the actual puzzles I realized my logic was wrong, but the tutorial panels were so nebulous that I couldn't make the leap to what I was doing wrong.
Feel kind of shitty about having to spoil the mechanics of these pieces, but then once the logic was explained to me, I'm really not sure I would have gotten it solo without a few more panels to explain it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
That's exactly what I figured but I wasn't sure. Thanks!
MegaSackman
Member
Scratching my head at work over this one. -_-
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a510/Mega_Sackman/Mobile%20Uploads/14539960430151550216133_zpsnxttxozj.jpg
Any hints? Is the same rule as always, right? Can't rotate pieces but I can outline any exisring figure as long as they contain a tetris piece inside the line, and I have to separate the pieces from the black squares...
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a510/Mega_Sackman/Mobile%20Uploads/14539960430151550216133_zpsnxttxozj.jpg
GlamFM
Banned
Play some more.
Advice to people who can't figure out rules for puzzle shapes: Don't be afraid to get the puzzle wrong. The feedback when failing a puzzle can be very helpful. What flashed red? What didn't? Try to guess the rule of the shape and draw a line that meets that criteria even if you know you're breaking the rule for other shapes. If the shape you're confused about didn't flash you're on the right track.
GlamFM
Banned
Literally LOL!
British Monsoon
Member
Oh man, I just realised that the lake near the village
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tracks your progress - the lights floating on the water are turning on whenever I activate a laser and a bunch of the white flowers have opened up, which I'm guessing is tied to finding the audio logs. There's orange flowers as well, but I'm not sure what they're tied to
Subpar Spatula
Banned
The game does get quite tedious when you understand how the puzzles work. If you understand it early only it really feels like doing pointless work to open X.
Wow, I really got stumped for a while on figuring out the
SOLUTION SPOILER AHEAD
Also I'm slightly dissappointed that I feel there's a handful of weak designs in this game. The two noteworthy instances I've found were
and
puzzles where you have to draw the shape that's shown in one of the squares
SOLUTION SPOILER AHEAD
In particular, figuring out that you can draw a shape that combines multiple different shapes as a solution is where I was stuck
Also I'm slightly dissappointed that I feel there's a handful of weak designs in this game. The two noteworthy instances I've found were
the final panel in the room where you raise and lower the water level to get a reflection, I actually bruteforced the final of the panel after figuring out two thirds of it because I was getting frustrated running around while having no idea how the reflections worked
the shipwreck's
just felt kind of weak because it was so slow to complete and fucking up slightly meant starting over which was also pretty slow in and of itself. Meaning it took probably at least 15 minutes to finally pull it off because of how many little things that can screw up
world line puzzle
Remembrance
Member
I'm still working on that one, but didn't you draw an extra row in that picture?
Edit: I figured it out on paper.
You do not have to separate the pieces from the black squares (in fact that would be impossible).
OrbitalBeard
Member
Question about the elevator puzzle. I solved it but I don't fully understand how.
I know the colored lighting affects the color of the cubes but how can you tell which cubes are going to change?
Game communities can be awful. The moment a price was announced some people made up their mind to how they would react to this game forever. In 2 years this will be a Daily Deal on Steam or PS+ title and you'll see angry comments about how it shouldn't have been $40 at launch.
TimeEffect
Member
1) How do you guys know how many puzzles you've done?
2) Is the only interaction in this game the "Draw a line" thing? Sometimes I'm clicking on the environment thinking they are subtle puzzles, but often pausing the game to draw the line. I dont want to be paranoid and stop every 2 seconds
3) I know you can run and speed up the line drawing, but is there any other button command I'm missing? You can't "undraw" your lines automatically, can you?
4) Despite being open world, is it hard to miss audio logs? I've gotten what I think is the first one in
, but Im worried about missing some out of order.
5) Tell me I'm not the only one who hears Ellie in those audio logs
Some general criticisms:
1) I wish I could turn faster
2) I was really hoping for more story about the island. I hear there's puzzles within the environment or something, and that sounds great. But Im curious about the island itself. Talos Principle had awesome computer terminals and writings on the wall, and while I dont need that level of storytelling, I was hoping to find random things in the world itself. I'm still very early, so maybe I'll see something if I look harder.
Hopefully the audio logs are great, Ive only found one.
3) Something like Talos Principle felt much more organized with its puzzles and sense of exploration. I feel lucky to have discovered the tetris tutorials, because the tetris rule is clearly seen in earlier places on the island.
I guess the rule is "if you see something new, there's a tutorial for them somewhere first". I'm doing my best to ignore hints and answers, but I'm walking around very nervous that Im doing the puzzles out of order.
I've already found random
on the floor and completed the simple ones that had new rules. No idea why they are right, but Im assuming it will be explained in a tutorial somewhere
2) Is the only interaction in this game the "Draw a line" thing? Sometimes I'm clicking on the environment thinking they are subtle puzzles, but often pausing the game to draw the line. I dont want to be paranoid and stop every 2 seconds
3) I know you can run and speed up the line drawing, but is there any other button command I'm missing? You can't "undraw" your lines automatically, can you?
4) Despite being open world, is it hard to miss audio logs? I've gotten what I think is the first one in
the opening area
5) Tell me I'm not the only one who hears Ellie in those audio logs
Some general criticisms:
1) I wish I could turn faster
2) I was really hoping for more story about the island. I hear there's puzzles within the environment or something, and that sounds great. But Im curious about the island itself. Talos Principle had awesome computer terminals and writings on the wall, and while I dont need that level of storytelling, I was hoping to find random things in the world itself. I'm still very early, so maybe I'll see something if I look harder.
Hopefully the audio logs are great, Ive only found one.
3) Something like Talos Principle felt much more organized with its puzzles and sense of exploration. I feel lucky to have discovered the tetris tutorials, because the tetris rule is clearly seen in earlier places on the island.
I guess the rule is "if you see something new, there's a tutorial for them somewhere first". I'm doing my best to ignore hints and answers, but I'm walking around very nervous that Im doing the puzzles out of order.
I've already found random
graph puzzles
CAAAAAAAAAAAW
Member
Puzzles at 520
I WILL BECOME THE MOONPUZZLE MASTER
+124+2. Pretty stoked about getting that extra ++1 just now.
GlamFM
Banned
Even sooner. Once it hits iOS for $9.99.
That being said, I have no idea why a "community" should decide on what a game should be priced.
March of the Crabs
Member
So quick question about that greenhouse place to see if I'm on the right track and make sure I'm not spending time trying to solve a puzzle in an unsolvable way:
Does the third puzzle behind the green/yellowish glass use the same rule as the other 2 behind glass before it (the one where you look through the window to see the true colours and the one where you look through the blue door)?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
http://i.imgur.com/QIoNgsx.jpg
Okay a friend needs help on this one.
Okay a friend needs help on this one.
I thought it was the lever puzzle.
Thanks guys. Sounds like a bug. A really annoying one...
GlamFM
Banned
The long one goes all the way to the left
Edit: Here you go
http://imgur.com/BcKP0P5
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Sorry? I don't comprehend
this game.
tiles that tell you what the shape is, have to be inside the shape when you make it?
Diprosalic
Banned
will i ever get thought how this one works? the puzzles with the camouflage borders.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0cp3EUkAE6-M0.jpg:large
or should i get it somehow?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0cp3EUkAE6-M0.jpg:large
or should i get it somehow?
prag16
Banned
I originally said $40 was too much, and that I wouldn't buy it at launch.
Well I caved.
And I was wrong.
Game is incredible. I could have paid $60 and been okay with it.
Diprosalic
Banned
GlamFM
Banned
Yes. I edited my post to show you the solution.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I'm stuck at the end of that progression. When you get to the last one, if you figure it out, please tell me how!
captscience
Member
You don't need any other knowledge for this.
Pay attention to your environment
More detailed hint:
Use all your senses.
I've found a handful of puzzles just lying around. Usually with an orange triangle or two on them. What is the point of them? I think I've solved them all so far, without really knowing what I'm doing with them. I don't want to have to come back to them later when I've forgotten where they all were.
I've also had a handful of puzzles that seem to have more than one possible solution, but aside from the one near the beginning, it never seems to make a difference.
I don't mind if I need to backtrack later if the game makes it obvious, but I really don't want to have to crawl over the entire place again without any idea of where the alternate puzzles were.
I've also had a handful of puzzles that seem to have more than one possible solution, but aside from the one near the beginning, it never seems to make a difference.
I don't mind if I need to backtrack later if the game makes it obvious, but I really don't want to have to crawl over the entire place again without any idea of where the alternate puzzles were.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Sometimes I find it helps to just stand in front of the puzzle and close my eyes and think for a bit when I get stuck
GlamFM
Banned
Diprosalic
Banned
Remembrance
Member
Think of these as a big spread-out tutorial. You have to find a bunch to fully understand them.
Might want to make notes on the valid and invalid solutions while you have them in front of you.
Shadowcreep
Member
Opening up photoshop to physically move the tetris pieces around to get a better idea of how to fit them has been the greatest advice I've seen, made it so much easier to see how to use the space given. This is the thing that has made it so I can clear out all these tetris puzzles I've been ignoring.