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These Coloradans say Earth is flat. And gravity’s a hoax. Now, they’re being persecut

norm9

Member
From the Denver Post- http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/07/colorado-earth-flat-gravity-hoax/

They have no leaders, no formal hierarchy and no enforced ideology, save a common quest for answers to questions about the stars. Their membership has slowly swelled in the past three years, though persecution and widespread public derision keep them mostly underground. Many use pseudonyms, or only give first names.

They call themselves Flat Earthers. Because they believe Earth — the blue, majestic, spinning orb of life — is as flat as a table.

At the Tuesday night meet-ups, dubbed “Flat Earth or Other Forbidden Topics,” believers invite fellow adherents to open discussions in which the like-minded confirm one another’s hunches and laugh at the folly of those still stuck in the Enlightenment.

“There’s so much evidence once you set aside your preprogrammed learning and begin to look at things objectively with a critical eye,” says Bob Knodel, a Denver resident and featured guest at a recent Tuesday meeting. “You learn soon that what we’re taught is mainly propaganda.”

“I’ve researched conspiracies for a long time,” he says. “I’ve looked very critically at NASA. Why is it that the astronauts have conflicting stories about the sky? Is it bright with stars, or a deep velvet black?”

His wife, Cami, shares his views. “Our YouTube channel gets people to critically think,” she said to the Fort Collins group. “The heliocentric model says that we’re spinning at 1,038 mph. They say you won’t notice it because it’s a continual motion. But you should be able to feel it. You shouldn’t be able to function allegedly spinning that fast.”

The weekly meet-ups also give forum to friendly lines of questioning. Some are straightforward (“What do you say back to people who call you stupid?”) and summon a ready-made answer (“You’re not stupid, period. They have to understand that there are deceptions going on at enormous levels”). Others stump even the experts. “How are we Flat Earthers supposed to explain to our friends the solar eclipse in August?” asked one attendee. The room fell silent. “We’ll have to do more research and get back to you on that.”

“It was interesting, but I didn’t think it was real,” he says. “I started the same way as everyone else, saying, ‘Oh, I’ll just prove the earth is round.’ Nine months later, I was staring at my computer thinking, ‘I can’t prove the globe anymore.’ ”

The movement, though, is not a monolith. Differences of opinion divide the community on matters of scientific interpretation, cosmology, strategy and even the most fundamental questions of geology, such as: what shape is our planet?

Many subscribe to the “ice wall theory,” or the belief that the world is circumscribed by giant ice barriers, like the walls of a bowl, that then extend infinitely along a flat plane. Sargent envisions Earth as “a giant circular disc covered by a dome.” He likens the planet to a snow globe, similar to the one depicted in “The Truman Show,” a fictitious 1998 existential drama about an insurance salesman unknowingly living in an artificially constructed dome.

“They want you to think you’re insignificant, a speck on the earth, a cosmic mistake,” Sargent says. “The flat earth says you are special, we are special, there is a creator, this isn’t some accident.”

(All scientists and educators consulted for this story rejected the idea of a flat earth.)

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People believing in something stupid so that they feel special; Or maybe I'm just not enlightened?

Get back to me on the August solar eclipse if old.
 
So...

flat earth = there is a creator and we are special

round earth = there is no god and we are insignificant

... what?
 

Apathy

Member
I have really hated how easy the internet is to use by absolute morons and get their stupid ideas out to more morons.
 

Shauni

Member
“How are we Flat Earthers supposed to explain to our friends the solar eclipse in August?” asked one attendee. The room fell silent. “We’ll have to do more research and get back to you on that.”

Lol
 
How the flipping heck does a flat Earth mean that there is a creator??? Wouldn't that mean that God has no idea what He's doing since a flat Earth doesn't make any sense?

Where does the Sun go when it sets and the moon appears? Does it go underneath the flat Earth? But then how come other places have sunlight?

Have people been watching too much Pirates of the Caribbean 3?
 
Everytime I read about these people I keep waiting for someone to break character. Like "lol jk it's all a joke guys." But it never happens.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Hey maybe all these people will get together to stop just jerking each other's conspiracy boners off over the internet about how woke they are and put their money where their big mouth's are and actually gimme some real hard fucking proof that the Earth is flat. Till then they can shut the fuck up about persecution.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
“How are we Flat Earthers supposed to explain to our friends the solar eclipse in August?” asked one attendee. The room fell silent. “We’ll have to do more research and get back to you on that.”
Easy !

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“They want you to think you’re insignificant, a speck on the earth, a cosmic mistake,” Sargent says. “The flat earth says you are special, we are special, there is a creator, this isn’t some accident.”

This explains a flatearter's motivations so much.
 

Pryce

Member
Some people can't accept the fact that in the end their like is meaningless in the cosmic scope of things.
 

Kazuhira

Member
Life would be really more exciting if there was an massive derp dragon below us and cloud Edison is the one that causes tornadoes,wind gusts etc.
 

Mindlog

Member
I can trace my lineage through stellar phenomena of awesome proportions. The grandiose works of the Universe born from nothingness to bring me to you here today are truly miraculous.

And you think you are special because we're behind an ice wall?
Thirteen point eight BILLION years of work is not enough for you to feel special?
How special do you need to be?
 

Kazuhira

Member
I can trace my lineage through stellar phenomena of awesome proportions. The grandiose works of the Universe born from nothingness to bring me to you here today are truly miraculous.

And you think you are special because we're behind an ice wall?
Thirteen point eight BILLION years of work for is not enough for you to feel special?
How special do you need to be?

haha,well said man.
 

Ether_Snake

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SpaceX's Instagram and Facebook feeds are full of flat-earther comments.
 

cameron

Member
The orthodox say their faith makes them a persecuted minority, mocked to their faces by friends and strangers for nothing more than First Amendment-protected beliefs. “We get accused of being idiots, of doing it for money,” Knodel said. “Believe me, there’s only humiliation in this. We do it because we believe it.”

He and other Flat Earthers can only speculate why the global conspiracy has had such staying power for more than 500 years, or why “the top” — the uber-elite heads of governments, universities and major corporations that allegedly know “the truth” — would continue to uphold a scheme that offers little in the way of riches or strategic power.

“It’s not about money. They want complete mind control,” Knodel says
after the meeting in the lobby of the Fort Collins coffee shop. “They want to create two classes: the ultra rich and servants. At that point they would’ve taken over the world, and enslaved the population, and controlled everything.”
The article has pics of kids at their meetings. They're dragging young minds into this nonsense.
 

siddx

Magnificent Eager Mighty Brilliantly Erect Registereduser
People believing in something stupid so they feel special has been the basis of every religious belief since the beginning of time. So I get it. It's still stupid as fuck and they should be mocked and pointed at as fucknuts. But I get it.
 

LordRaptor

Member
How the flipping heck does a flat Earth mean that there is a creator???

If the thing you believe in is so obviously stupid and untrue, either you're wrong and something of an idiot to believe it, or God Did It and nobody can prove that you're wrong and something of an idiot to believe it
 

qcf x2

Member
So...

flat earth = there is a creator and we are special

round earth = there is no god and we are insignificant

... what?

Yeah, idk. I feel even more special knowing how awesome it is that the world is round, BUT I imagine in their scenario the stars are a lie and the Earth is the only thing that exists, or something like that.

I love how eager these folk are to reject what you read in a book in favor of what some guy in a robotic voice says on YouTube. Don't get me wrong, I think YouTube is amazing and you CAN learn just about anything on there, but come on... this stuff gets disproven so easily.

People believing in something stupid so they feel special has been the basis of every religious belief since the beginning of time. So I get it. It's still stupid as fuck and they should be mocked and pointed at as fucknuts. But I get it.

This is not a "religious belief" until these people form their own religion.
 

Ether_Snake

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Also:

Joe Rogan Hints at Anti-Semitic Roots of the Flat Earth Movement

Joe Rogan likes to troll flat-Earthers. For years, he's confronted them on Twitter and on his podcast. Last week, he brought on regular podcast guest Eddie Bravo, a martial artist and flat Earth conspiracy theorist, so they could yell at each other about the evidence for and against this bafflingly popular idea. A throwaway comment from Bravo, however, hints at a darker truth about this conspiracy theory and many others: the anti-Semitic idea that there's a worldwide Jewish ”globalist" conspiracy functioning just below the surface of world politics, finance, and mainstream media.

”It's a global thing. European Space Agency's lying, they're all in on it," says Bravo in the podcast. ”It's a global thing. I think all governments — most of ‘em, the globalists — they're all working together to control their people."

The casual observer may think the word ”globalists" is simply shorthand for people who believe the Earth is a globe rather than a disc, but it actually has a long, racially charged history. In modern use, it's used as a dog-whistle term for Jewish people — that is, a term that sounds innocuous but actually has a very specific meaning for those in the know, much like a high-pitched dog whistle can only be heard by its intended listeners.

Religious beliefs and anti-semitism are fueling this.
 

Karkador

Banned
I'd say 'dont these people have anything better to do" but they might actually harm or kill someone if given actual responsibility.
 

DrkSage

Member
I also bet that if you show them this image
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They'll tell you that's the solar system and the sun in the middle
 
Seriously, what does this "conspiracy" do to benefit anyone? People don't conspire for the sake of conspiring. Ever hear that bit about aliens and how if you walked into a room in Area 51 you wouldn't walk out because even a secret so big that only one person knows about would get out? The flat earth conspiracy would involve every pilot, every scientist and every government in the world.
 

Impotaku

Member
Good, they need to be persecuted & ridiculed at every turn/ It's a moronic belief to believe the earth is flat, it's fucking 2017 and you are able to see from space but nope they insist that there's a wall of ice. Must magically vanish when observed from space.

It's astounding how backwards people can be considering just how much nformation is at our fingertips nowdays. Then again if you belive in a creator & religion then i guess you'll believe any old shit you are told.
 
So...

flat earth = there is a creator and we are special

round earth = there is no god and we are insignificant

... what?

I was talking with a friend who told me someone he knows on Facebook was posting about flat Earth beliefs while saying things like, "If the Earth is round then how can you walk from the North Pole to the South Pole without falling of, and DON'T say gravity."

I'd assumed they were of the belief that the flat Earth is moving upwards instead of there being gravity, but they thought the Earth was staying still but God kept us in place on it. Being curious on that I told him to ask why the flat earther doubted God's power that he couldn't keep us from falling off a round Earth, but sadly my friend was not interested in getting involved in that.
 

sonicmj1

Member
So...

flat earth = there is a creator and we are special

round earth = there is no god and we are insignificant

... what?

If the Earth is the same as every other planet in the universe, rotating around a star that's the same as every other star in the universe, then it's not unique and special. Mankind is an accident of an uncaring universe.

If the Earth is a flat disc around which the entire universe is oriented, then it's the most significant thing there is. God created the world for us.

That's the "logic", anyway. I'm not sure exactly how they think a secret cabal enslaves the population by making people think the Earth isn't special, but it starts there.
 

yyzjohn

Banned
I'm glad the solar eclipse is stressing out the flat earthers. Hard to explain that when the sun and moon are supposedly always across from each other. Back to the drawing board boys!
 

Dyle

Member
“They want you to think you’re insignificant, a speck on the earth, a cosmic mistake,” Sargent says. “The flat earth says you are special, we are special, there is a creator, this isn’t some accident.”

Many subscribe to the “ice wall theory,” or the belief that the world is circumscribed by giant ice barriers, like the walls of a bowl, that then extend infinitely along a flat plane. Sargent envisions Earth as “a giant circular disc covered by a dome.” He likens the planet to a snow globe, similar to the one depicted in “The Truman Show,” a fictitious 1998 existential drama about an insurance salesman unknowingly living in an artificially constructed dome.

So they're saying we're all special snowflakes?
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
“It was interesting, but I didn’t think it was real,” he says. “I started the same way as everyone else, saying, ‘Oh, I’ll just prove the earth is round.’ Nine months later, I was staring at my computer thinking, ‘I can’t prove the globe anymore.’ ”

Try harder lol
 

Servbot24

Banned
Have flat earthers given an explanation of where the edge is? Is it between Alaska and Russia, or some other area? And have they explained why you can fly all over without seeing an edge?

Obviously I'm not stooping down to argue with them, I'm just curious what happens in their heads.
 
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