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Thief |OT| Hide your valuables, Garrett is back in town
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Lactose_Intolerant
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oh man, looks like the small levels are the worst offender.
I didn't mean ALL reviews. I just meant the one's like the sneaky bastard's one where they don't even find any redeeming qualities at all in a game that for the most part will be playable. I hate that kind of over the top internet bravado. From what we've already seen from the reviewers is that this game is mediocre. That's too bad. I'll still enjoy it. So no, I'm not in denial.
The complaints arent that its just a bad thief game, but a bad game overall.
People need to justify any bad purchase they make.
KyleOnTheRun
Member
No reviews thread yet, so I'll post my PlayStation Universe review here:
http://www.psu.com/a022586/Thief-Review--The-new-face-of-old-stealth
7.5 / 10
It's a good deal of fun, with surprisingly old-school stealth gameplay and fantastic visuals and environments. But the writing is pretty face-palm and there are strange audio glitches galore.
http://www.psu.com/a022586/Thief-Review--The-new-face-of-old-stealth
7.5 / 10
It's a good deal of fun, with surprisingly old-school stealth gameplay and fantastic visuals and environments. But the writing is pretty face-palm and there are strange audio glitches galore.
To be fair if you love stealth games it's no doubt better to play the originals. They're cheap as hell on Steam.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Here's some shots I took.
Remachinate
Member
We all knew it was going to have major problems, but the one question I care about is: is the game still fun in spite of its mediocrity?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Learn2pronounce "linear" and "narrative" ya cunt
My review is live as well
77/100
www.4gamers.be/reviews/34205/1/Thief
I think it is. I agree with RPS, it's still a decent game to play.
77/100
www.4gamers.be/reviews/34205/1/Thief
I think it is. I agree with RPS, it's still a decent game to play.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Never.
PuppetSlave
Member
Humm, well maybe I will wait for a discount and pick it up then. The whole small setpiece level design is really souring to hear.
The lighting and fog effects make the levels look really good though.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Basically my review in a nut shell. Still really liked it but it has some problems. Granted one of my biggest issues is the fact they encourage replaying levels after you beat it but provide no easy way to find the entrances to the levels again. You have to remember where they are and with as cramped as the hub world is and its various different areas and loading time, it's an extreme pain in the ass.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
My nail in the coffin was their argument that cod mw3 was an "un game". Im surprised he still goes there.
Turin Turambar
Member
Good review, btw.
ouch... but i guess for $25( bought it for $30 ish from GMG and the dota 2 promo that came with it was worth $5) and the tf2 items its alright. to those who pre ordered it on PC and don't play dota 2, sell the dota 2 promo item that comes with it. its worth $5.50 on steam market
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Genuine Tools of the Master Thief Set
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Genuine Tools of the Master Thief Set
Hello fellow belgian. I'll read your review as soon as I get home, most of gaming sites are blocked here at work (Thank god not GAF).
I think I'll still buy it since the game has decent reviews and not abyssmal as expected. What I saw till now make me think I'll definitely have fun with the game.
D'oh, I had no idea the items were available and marketable already -- in the past with TF2 items there's always been a few-day delay between the game's release and the items being marketable. I assume you have to run Dota 2 to obtain them, as with TF2 items?
That was a very well put together review.
Tractopoulpe
Member
Thanks for the links !
Not really surprised by the reviews. Can't wait to play the game myself now !
Not really surprised by the reviews. Can't wait to play the game myself now !
Always good to see a fellow Belgian on GAF
I basically went in with no expectations at all. I wanted a decent stealth game and this game gave me... a decent stealth game.I won't deny there are flaws, because there are... but I feel like some reviews are judging it too harshly simply because it's supposed to be an AAA-game.
I really wonder what GAF will think of it.
yep. dota 2 is a 4GB install so it shouldn't take too long
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Great review mate and I share your disappointment of them focusing too much on story to the detriment of the gameplay and level design
If the next game is next-gen only, and keeps the engine and design, but goes completely back to proper sandbox missions they could have a real winner.
Sounds like it's solidly in the 6-7.5 range.
I've really enjoyed other games that were similarly reviewed (Shinobi PS2 comes to mind), and the first person stealth/RPG subgenre (Deus Ex, Dishonored, etc.) is one of my favorites, and I really like the graphics/art style, so I'm pretty sure I'll get this.
But since I'll be playing it on PC, and because it does sound like it could really use some patching for at least the audio glitches and the strange aspect ratio stuff, I'll hold off until I've got my new gaming rig in a few months.
But the reviews don't seem to describe anything I'd find truly damning, just not something I'm sure I'd feel comfortable paying $60 for.
I guess the question now is how committed is Eidos to fixing some of those smaller issues? I can't see Square-Enix giving them any more money to fix those problems if the game flops. I'm sorta selfishly hoping that it being one of the only new games available for PS4 and 360 might artificially inflate its sales a bit, and thus convince them to try to address some of that stuff with patches. Also curious to see what they have in mind for DLC.
I've really enjoyed other games that were similarly reviewed (Shinobi PS2 comes to mind), and the first person stealth/RPG subgenre (Deus Ex, Dishonored, etc.) is one of my favorites, and I really like the graphics/art style, so I'm pretty sure I'll get this.
But since I'll be playing it on PC, and because it does sound like it could really use some patching for at least the audio glitches and the strange aspect ratio stuff, I'll hold off until I've got my new gaming rig in a few months.
But the reviews don't seem to describe anything I'd find truly damning, just not something I'm sure I'd feel comfortable paying $60 for.
I guess the question now is how committed is Eidos to fixing some of those smaller issues? I can't see Square-Enix giving them any more money to fix those problems if the game flops. I'm sorta selfishly hoping that it being one of the only new games available for PS4 and 360 might artificially inflate its sales a bit, and thus convince them to try to address some of that stuff with patches. Also curious to see what they have in mind for DLC.
Um. Weird. Is it just me or did Gamefly pull Thief from the digital download?
http://digital.gamefly.com/#!/search?q=thief
It was there yesterday for $35. $33.75 the day before.
http://digital.gamefly.com/#!/search?q=thief
It was there yesterday for $35. $33.75 the day before.
v0mitg0d
Member
Reviewers! Question for you:
Old school fan here. I've decided to play the game at Master level with Waypoints disabled. I am, however, unsure how to handle the Focus system now that I've read it's an upgrade system allowing for improvements in Marksmanship and picking locks.
I'm having second thoughts. Did you play with Focus enabled? How difficult is the game without it? I'm worried the game was designed with the Focus system enabled, which kind of bums me out if true.
Thoughts and suggestions? Thanks!
Old school fan here. I've decided to play the game at Master level with Waypoints disabled. I am, however, unsure how to handle the Focus system now that I've read it's an upgrade system allowing for improvements in Marksmanship and picking locks.
I'm having second thoughts. Did you play with Focus enabled? How difficult is the game without it? I'm worried the game was designed with the Focus system enabled, which kind of bums me out if true.
Thoughts and suggestions? Thanks!
Here's some shots I took.
Nice! Can you get rid of the HUD and the jazz hands with an in-game option, or do you need to edit some config files? If the latter, can you detail the steps required please?
Have a look at EatChildren's review mate. He played PC, Master, No-focus:
Csokis
Member
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Great review mate and I share your disappointment of them focusing too much on story to the detriment of the gameplay and level design
Cheers!
I played through the entire game on Master Custom, Focus permanently locked off, and never once felt like I needed it.
All from the options menu. You cannot remove the "jazz hands" as Garrett has a physical model in the world so you're interactions are always animated. You also can't turn off the shadowy vignetting. Absolutely everything else: map, health, light sphere, guard alert status, waypoints, etc, can be turned off. Lots of options, very happy.
Alex from Giant Bomb says he still needs to finish it up, but says expect it to be a lower-end review, and that it sucks.
Judging from the reactions on this game, it seems to be stuck in the middle of two options: going old school or going AAA, big budget set piece game. A lot of the more mainstream review outlets seem to fault it for not being modern or flashy enough, while more PC-centric sites like PC Gamer and RPS seem to be of the mind that while it's very old-school in some ways, the faults come from attempting to be modern.
This is on top of the rather universal claim that the story sucks. It's kind of fascinating to see a game find universal fault for apparently different reasons. The development of this game was surely a real bloody battle.
Judging from the reactions on this game, it seems to be stuck in the middle of two options: going old school or going AAA, big budget set piece game. A lot of the more mainstream review outlets seem to fault it for not being modern or flashy enough, while more PC-centric sites like PC Gamer and RPS seem to be of the mind that while it's very old-school in some ways, the faults come from attempting to be modern.
This is on top of the rather universal claim that the story sucks. It's kind of fascinating to see a game find universal fault for apparently different reasons. The development of this game was surely a real bloody battle.
v0mitg0d
Member
Great, thanks!
Also, is there any option to turn off Garrett's voice? I'm considering it because it doesn't sound like the real Garrett. :/
For any other Steam users who have bothered to unlock the game early, I've made a PC performance thread.
SlasherJPC
Banned
There is indeed an option for this. I never used it but glad to see it in the menu.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
You cannot turn off Garrett's voice for cutscenes and such, but you can turn off all his in-game narration.
PedroLumpy
Member
I don't suppose by some miracle they'll support modding/level editors?
v0mitg0d
Member
Would you recommend turning it off or was his voice suitable and helpful?
SlasherJPC
Banned
I think it would mostly depend if you enjoy the VA or not. I enjoyed his sublte remarks to the story and things going on around him.
The English Conquistador
Member
Quite interested in this. Does this scratch a Dishonored itch at all?