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THR: Ron Howard officially directing Han Solo after Lord/Miller firing

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WhiteRabbitEXE

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friskykillface said:
Should have got Lynch the god

Star Wars needs more eraserhead type monsters and the Kessell run could have been an escape from an ugly beast while smuggling shit
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So I gotta ask: When people say this, they're aware Lynch has made it pretty clear he'd never do Star Wars, and thus that's part of the joke, right? Or is there actually a large contingent who coincidentally both want Lynch and are unware of his history with the franchise?
 
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Pumpernickle Humperdink

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WhiteRabbitEXE said:
I mean, he accepted, so clearly he is fine with it.

And what does that have to do with Kasdan's potential lack of desire to sit in the director's chair?
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Accepted? As in got paid? I doubt he has any real passion for the Star War. What did Howard have on his plate anyway? Another Dan Brown flick? (yuck)

As for Kasdan, maybe he just has too much on his plate already.
 
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NealMcCauley

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Kasdan may have wanted to start from scratch, which would be impossible without changing the release date.

Howard's solid but his recent spectacle movies underwhelmed. It always seems like he's on autopilot. Hoping for the best.
 
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btrboyev

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Sulik2 said:
I'm gonna side with Kasdan on this if the split was about tone. He understands the tone of Star Wars better then Lucas' himself does. Ron Howard has made some solid movies, he is a very tough position here. This will certainly be interesting to see how it turns out.
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People give Kasdan too much credit. He understands the tone more than George? Fuck no he doesn't. He wrote a great script for Empire and parts of RoTJ. Empire was awesome, that doesn't mean he understands Star Wars more than its creator. He co-wrote force awakens and it was just a copy of George's movie.
 
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Einchy

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btrboyev said:
People give Kasdan too much credit. He understands the tone more than George? Fuck no he doesn't. He wrote a great script for Empire and parts of RoTJ. Empire was awesome, that doesn't mean he understands Star Wars more than its creator. He co-wrote force awakens and it was just a copy of George's movie.
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Kasdan gave George a bunch of notes and ideas for Episode 1, which if George had taken to heart, would've fixed a ton of things people hated about that movie.

He most definitely understands what makes Star Wars Star Wars more than George. It's clear Lucas forgot in episode 1 and 2.
 
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Chained Prometheus

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WhiteRabbitEXE said:
Not even a question.

No fucking clue why LFL keeps saying May in the meantime though. Maybe space out the "bad" news? Everyone was expecting it before they fired Lord and Miller anyway, so I dunno.
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I think they genuinely want to move Star Wars back to May, but yeah I think they should just bump it back to December.
 
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Cross-Section

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And now here's SWNN (leak site ala Making Star Wars) saying that Alden Ehrenreich was also sounding the alarm bells over how Lord & Miller were having him play the character:
For anyone who’s worried that the actor playing a young Han Solo isn’t taking his role seriously, rest easy – Ehrenreich one of the most important people involved with the project who voiced his concerns about the project at a crucial moment in the movie’s development, which means that he’s absolutely committed to bringing his A-game to this role. Ehrenreich’s performance has been described to us as being an interesting new take on Han that stands out on its own while still honoring the essentials of the character, and that it’s a worthy interpretation of the iconic scoundrel.

And this is why Ehrenreich had concerns with the production as filming progressed. He started to worry that Lord & Miller’s screwball comedy angle was starting to interfere with what the character of Han Solo is really about – even if this was a younger, more reckless take on the character than the one we met in that Cantina on Tatooine. One source described it as being oddly comparable to Jim Carrey’s performance in Ace Ventura at times. Ehrenreich let his concerns be known to one of the producers, who then told Kennedy about it, which led to her decision to look over the existing footage (which is also a normal part of the production process, but this is where things get interesting).
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Now obviously take with a grain of salt due to the source, but holy shit if the bolded is in any way accurate.
 
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Fudgepuppy

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If that is true, Lord and Miller seem to have had 0 respect for Star Wars, just seeing how much they could get away with.

So this means essentially that they might have to reshoot large chunks of the movie?
 
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SpaceWolf

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Cross-Section said:
And now here's SWNN (leak site ala Making Star Wars) saying that Alden Ehrenreich was also sounding the alarm bells over how Lord & Miller were having him play the character:


Now obviously take with a grain of salt due to the source, but holy shit if the bolded is in any way accurate.
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btrboyev

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Einchy said:
Kasdan gave George a bunch of notes and ideas for Episode 1, which if George had taken to heart, would've fixed a ton of things people hated about that movie.

He most definitely understands what makes Star Wars Star Wars more than George. It's clear Lucas forgot in episode 1 and 2.
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He didn't forget. He wanted to make new movies that were a different tone from the first movies. He had the right idea, but was held back by his own scripts and use of CGI.

Had kasdan been part of it, I feel we would have gotten the same old.

George should have had more input overall though. That much is clear.
 
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liquidtmd

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I dunno. I can see how the bolded Jim Carry stuff may seem inflammatory but...look.

I imagine Kennedy, Kasdan and half the people here have a very distinct idea of what and how Solo 'should' be. They just want a cheaper, younger Ford replacement to cram in a few spin-offs that probably acts identically to how Ford is in ANH. But it's a movie about a time a good few years before ANH. Him being an immature screwball actually is conceptually more interesting than him just being an unchanging Han Solo who was the same way since birth if they HAD to chronicle his youth.

I don't have a horse in this race. I wasn't really hyped about the movie, I'm in the crowd that deems a Han Solo prequel movie probably one of the least interesting avenues they could have taken. Especially with Emilia Clarke after seeing Genisys. But the attachment of Lord and Miller picqued my interest 'because' their projects to me have rode that 'devil may care' attitude kinda personified ironically by Han Solo (I'm not talking about their humour within their movies specifically to be clear)

But an actor raised concerns and now we've got 'concern' again from Kennedy, after a very solid and enjoyable yet uninspired to a degree TFA, and a good-night-at-the-cinema but by the numbers Rogue One.

I think the best way to respect Star Wars at this point if we're playing in a spin off sandbox would be to be a little adventurous - have a gamble. I know people will want to reply 'they (producers) ain't gonna gamble with Star Wars' but to them I say back in '77, Lucas gambled and it paid off big time.

Equally Lord and Millers projects between them...if you'd told me a Lego Movie with sarcastic characters would have been a cinema highlight of the year before seeing it, I'd have laughed at you.

Now we have Howard. Competent. Safe pair of hands. Will tow the line with Kennedy and ship the product as ordered. Lovely
 
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brandonh83

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This is probably the most indifferent I've ever felt about "breaking news" concerning a Star Wars picture.

I know it's easier to go after producers than it is directors as producers are more linked to the "Hollywood" stigma, but if you don't think Kennedy cares about this, you're highly fucking mistaken and if Kasdan didn't like some of the things they were doing either, I'm going to have to go with those people on this decision.

Secondly, while Howard hasn't always did great things, I've always viewed him as a solid director even in the films of his I haven't cared for (such as the Da Vinci films, which I don't care for but I find to be well made). He's coming into this very late so it's not like his hands are going to be all over it, just basically shaping what Lord and Miller already did into something that more people agree with.

I realize that, especially around forums and such that people want them to take risks, but there's taking risks and there's potentially fucking something up. I'd rather have something more "safe" that doesn't betray anything than something completely bananas that some will claim is good just because it's different. I trust in what they're doing for now but yeah it doesn't really like intrigue me that much or anything. The crazy news was the initial firing. I think there's a lot of directors that could have stepped in and fixed it up in a similar manner.

So I'm just like, okay, whatever.
 
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Fisty

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So Kasdan was the reason for this? That's lame. I guess he just wanted somebody to shoot his script and not inject any personality or wit into it, so he got the right guy for the job in the end.
 
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SpaceWolf

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firehawk12 said:
Really should have brought back Lucas. lol
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Beckett: You have much skill, my roguish friend. You fire a blaster well. I haven't seen such talent with a weapon since I was stationed on Quellis 4, during the infamous stock disputes at the hands of the local trade guilds.

Han Solo: I fire a blaster very well. I am a fine shot, you need not doubt it.

(Beckett and Han walk slowly down a corridor, as they stride in front of a series of breath-taking blue-screens, each more distracting than the last)

Beckett: Indeed? If you still wish to join my gang however, there is much you must take into consideration.

Han Solo: I shall have no need to consider anything. I will join your gang.

Beckett: Very well. Let us put your skills to the ultimate test.

(Five alien gangsters suddenly dart from around a corner, their blasters trained on Han. Before Han can even reach his own blaster, the aliens fire their weapons simultaneously, their blaster bolts darting in the young smuggler's direction. Luckily, Han miraculously dodges the shots by stiffly jerking his head a few centimeters to the left before cutting the aggressive aliens down with ease.)

Beckett: Once again, I am impressed by your skill.

Han Solo: And so you should be, for I fire a blaster well.

Beckett: (Murmuring quietly) Could this be the boy the prophecy spoke of?
 
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Slythe

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I like L&M, but if the article above is to be believed...

You don't give people like Kathleen Kennedy and Lawrence Kasden an "ultimatum." If you're not willing to take criticism and be open to collaboration from the leadership of Lucasfilm it's probably not gonna turn out too well for you.

I wish they could've worked it out, and I respect them for sticking to their guns. But I can't blame Kathleen for ousting them if they were truly not open to making adjustments.
 
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WhiteRabbitEXE

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Fisty said:
So Kasdan was the reason for this? That's lame. I guess he just wanted somebody to shoot his script and not inject any personality or wit into it, so he got the right guy for the job in the end.
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I think they did want Lord and Miller to inject personality and wit into it, but while still actually shooting the script. Instead they were treating it more like

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Allegedly.
 
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