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killatopak
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All I know about this is that Newton made calculations about the orbits of two celestial bodies and someone else asked for a third body in the calculation. This perplexed mathematicians for centuries and remained unsolved using simple equations.
Dunno how they can make this a perplexing story to tell.
Dunno how they can make this a perplexing story to tell.
BossLackey
Gold Member
I've read the book. It gets very very strange.
killatopak
Gold Member
Watched the trailer. The vibes I get is this is some weird mish mash of contact, ready player one and independence day.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Sort of.
It's more Independence Day, mixed with Matrix, The Godfather, Toy Story, Pulp Fiction, Titanic and a trickle of Friends.
GreenAlien
Member
I can recommend the original chinese series. It's well done and probably 10x better than this one.
It can be legally watched here with english (and various other) subtitles. https://www.viki.com/tv/39255c-three-body
It can be legally watched here with english (and various other) subtitles. https://www.viki.com/tv/39255c-three-body
clarky
Gold Member
OK, now im interested.
Unfortunately it's also kinda slow, at least the first few eps I've watched. I liked the books, but they will have a STEEP hill to climb getting casual viewers onboard, I think. GoT solved the worldbuilding exposition attention span bit with lots of nudity and violence, curious if D&D go back to that well (somehow I doubt it). Looks like it leans hard into the video game aspect, which is probably a wise choice.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Don't be. I made that up. I've never read the book and have no idea what this is about.
Thanks.
It's more Contact, Manchurian Candidate, Virus, and The Arrival (both Charlie Sheen and Denis V ones). They are gonna struggle to add ANY action to this without some major alterations. It's more tension, paranoia, sabotage, and fear of the unknown. It's incredibly smart people making rash decisions under pressure or calculated risks that are gonna be hard to express to the audience without a lotta talking and whiteboard lectures unless things get greatly simplified.
clarky
Gold Member
Today is just one disappointment after another.
clarky
Gold Member
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
I didnt know the GoT guys were behind it, which--knee-jerk--seems bad. BUT they nailed GoT while they had a full source to adapt from, so there is hope.
I'll be checking this out for sure.
I'll be checking this out for sure.
What A Shame...
Banned
Unpopular opinion but I think D&D will nail this. They're great at adapting so long as the material is there to adapt.
wipeout364
Member
Book had some good ideas but overall was not fantastic. Paper thin characters and really bad alien personalities which completely pulled me out of the story. Did not read the sequels because of it.
Still, in this case it may make for some entertaining TV. Adaptions are really hit and miss. For example Foundation was an abomination that Apple should have been embarrassed to green light.
Still, in this case it may make for some entertaining TV. Adaptions are really hit and miss. For example Foundation was an abomination that Apple should have been embarrassed to green light.
gaming_again
Member
It's one of the greatest sci fi trilogies ever.
I don't trust Netflix with this at all. And book 3 is not something you can put into film.
newtypepilot
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"From Dumb & Dumber"
no thanks
no thanks
Well, Leto II does a damn good job making sure that doesn't happen for a stretchI really hope if they filmatize the third book that:
they keep the wonderful moral of the story that as soon as you put a woman in charge of humanity it ends in catastrophe.
Very curious how the Bene Gesserit focused prequel will handle it. Are they good guys (gals?) or villains? Does their eugenics program and abortion tactics get a pass by the writers (means to an end?) or is it considered morally abhorrent? Is the use of prostitution ok if it's in service to the greater good (...the greater goooood) and who gets to decide what is good? I never read the Brian Herbet prequel books, wonder if he had a riff on it and that's what the show is based on.
Mohonky
Member
I've been really waiting to see this. Old mate from Quinns Ideas youtube channel has spoken about it a lot. I can never be bothered reading, so I find him talking about the concepts on the books fascinating and this has been one he's discussed a few times.
Really hoping they nail it, seems a cool concept
Really hoping they nail it, seems a cool concept
GreenAlien
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3 Body Problem Season 1 Review - This Isn't the Next Game Of Thrones
3 Body Problem Season 1 Review - The creators deliver a larger-than-life series without a coherent script to keep you invested.
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Seems like a fair review. 3BP was always gonna be a challenge IMHO as it is very much NOT written with cinema in mind, unlike something like ASOIAF which was practically a screenplay in novel form already. Still, if they even attempt a decent job at explaining how the science of the novel works it will be worth it.3/53 Body Problem Season 1 Review - This Isn't the Next Game Of Thrones
3 Body Problem Season 1 Review - The creators deliver a larger-than-life series without a coherent script to keep you invested.
Werewolf Jones
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Nearly finished the first episode. I was worried at first but I'm kinda fucking with it. Saw an IMDB comment say they say "Fucking" a lot and that's just a word to casualize the strict academic technobabble talk the average person isn't gonna be switched on by. Also there's been a few shots of scenery that should've lingered longer to make a bigger impact whether its green screen or not. Seeing Chinese workers decimate a forest in a split second frame and not letting the audience absorb the damage after it was a talking point 10 minutes prior... wtf.
Werewolf Jones
Member
I'm 20 minutes into the second episode and I haven't seen a single titty.
StueyDuck
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To be clear... I'm not saying tits are bad
Just that they very much used it an excuse to pad time in game of thrones and was bad storytelling
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I dunno, if they had to spend 5 minutes explaining orbital theory and why calculating the movements of 3 bodies is waaaaaay harder than 2 its a LOT easier to sit through when 1, 2, or even all 3 of those bodies are hot naked chicks....just sayingTo be clear... I'm not saying tits are bad
Just that they very much used it an excuse to pad time in game of thrones and was bad storytelling
The books are pretty sterile IIRC. I suppose they could throw in some naked VR avatars or something but I don't recall really any sex. But given the pressures the characters are under, it would be understandable if some of them hooked up as a way of stress relief. They don't have to hold their brainstorming sessions in a strip club or anything
StueyDuck
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Naaaah give me the science. I want the numbers and theories and crazy ideas anyday. It's 2024, a naked chick is hardly uncommon, I want raw science yo.I dunno, if they had to spend 5 minutes explaining orbital theory and why calculating the movements of 3 bodies is waaaaaay harder than 2 its a LOT easier to sit through when 1, 2, or even all 3 of those bodies are hot naked chicks....just saying
The books are pretty sterile IIRC. I suppose they could throw in some naked VR avatars or something but I don't recall really any sex. But given the pressures the characters are under, it would be understandable if some of them hooked up as a way of stress relief. They don't have to hold their brainstorming sessions in a strip club or anything
BossLackey
Gold Member
Could you summarize?
What's was it that made you say strange?
Just asking
I think the structure and voice of the book is the first standout. Chinese Science Fiction isn't exactly common in the West, so the structure, prose, and general writing style is different than what I've experienced.
As far as the plot, the aliens and how they manipulate the science on earth and the way their history is told.
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Thanks. Interesting
Werewolf Jones
Member
Episode 3 spoils Oppenheimer btw.
(I'm joking but I'm also not lmao)
(I'm joking but I'm also not lmao)
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Finished 3 episodes. I think this is an incredible adaptation so far, and has the potential to be better than the books.
The trilogy is an incredibly difficult thing to adapt. In the books, the ideas are complicated, there are very thin characters to work with, the dialogue sucks, and the pacing can be all over the place. But the show is doing a great job so far; it's improved all of those aspects.
I'm just worried the show is still too inaccessible, the popularity of 3BP won't take off enough, and we'll never get the full series. I can totally see us getting just this season, or maybe one more, the show being cancelled after that, and people gradually coming to appreciate how damn good this is, but too late to make an impact.
The trilogy is an incredibly difficult thing to adapt. In the books, the ideas are complicated, there are very thin characters to work with, the dialogue sucks, and the pacing can be all over the place. But the show is doing a great job so far; it's improved all of those aspects.
I'm just worried the show is still too inaccessible, the popularity of 3BP won't take off enough, and we'll never get the full series. I can totally see us getting just this season, or maybe one more, the show being cancelled after that, and people gradually coming to appreciate how damn good this is, but too late to make an impact.
balls of snow
Gold Member
Watched the 1st ep. Im hooked! Solid mystery.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Watched 4 episodes. I won't be watching more. For something so gassed up as intelligent science fiction it's pretty fucking dumb. Disappointing.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
For what it's worth the books are relatively light on the science fiction in book 1, then get heavier and heavier on those elements from there, and provide good explanations for things that seemed bizarre and inexplicable at first. The same might be true of the show. What were the particular bits that you didn't like so far?
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Understandable. I give this show a 1 in 4 chance of making it to the end. Too bad...book 3 is absolutely incredible.
thegame983
Member
For reference the 30 episode Chinese show ends where episode 5 of the Netflix show ends.
John Bilbo
Member
I watched the whole thing. I wonder if the series is now complete or is there more coming. I haven't read the books so I don't know how the story is presented there or whether it concludes like it did with this show.
GreenAlien
Member
If it's successful enough, there are probably at least 2 more seasons.
As for the chinese version, The Dark Forest is announced and there is also a Spin Off that will probably release before that.
The Three-Body Problem Getting Season 2, Spinoff Storyline Miniseries
The Three-Body Problem is getting a second season in China, adapting Liu Cixin's The Dark Forest & a miniseries featuring cop hero Shi Qiang.
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