Titan X Launch / Review / Tears Thread

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Really, really considering selling my 980 and just getting a Titan X. I play at 4K and higher a lot of the time.

Do it. I sold my 970 to buy a Titan X, I've read comments in here saying that's crazy, but a 50% performance increase + overclocking performance that matches SLI + an insane VRAM ceiling. The Titan X is the only card that I've felt "satisfied" after buying.

I just hit a 200mhz overclock on Core then a 400mhz on memory, the card is still cool and there wasn't a single artifact or hickup throughout the overclocking process.
 
Looking at getting something like this. Give that Witcher 3 only needs a 980 for 1080/60 ultra probably only worth getting 1 Titan but SLI m/b so have option for second. Will be using this with my 1080p 3D vision monitor. (3D vision cuts framerate in half).

32 GB is for development (app and server side) since thats overkill for just games

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: *Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($213.71 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Urban R31 ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($91.71 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2321.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Good choices. I'd recommend a water cooler for your CPU. It's totally worth it. Not too sure about your case as I can't find any reviews from sites I recognize. And if you plan to SLI in the future, you might as well get 1000W or above.
 
In US

Just bought it from an Ebay Korean seller, VA panel + 40" 4k monitor is insane=plasma like blacks and iMax like size :p
Best monitor I've ever used

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SCX78JS

You can pre-order this from Amazon for $799. You might have to wait a couple of months to get it, but at least you won't have to worry about shipping it back to S. Korea if it needs servicing.

Thanks!

Average input lag of 22.4ms. And, no Gsync or Freesync. Better to wait for something else.

How big of an issue is this to you mr stroke?
 
Given the resolution, it seems par for the course. I can't really say it's just bad management on the games part given how he's running it.

Anyone test Ryse or Arma 3 yet?

Tried it out for about a hour. Maxed out, 4k, it stayed above 120fps+ the entire time. Stock clocks.
 
Tried it out for about a hour. Maxed out, 4k, it stayed above 120fps+ the entire time. Stock clocks.
That is impressive. I should be receiving my water blocks and backplates on Monday so by Tuesday night I should be able to do some SLI H20 testing.
 
Made it to first place ^^ Enjoying it while it lasts.

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Made it to first place ^^ Enjoying it while it lasts.

tell me the secret sauce.

also does anybody have a photo service they can recommend for 4k screens? for some reason when i upload them to my flickr they show up as an all white screen despite the fact that i see them as normal in my computer folder..
 
Nice job!

You should give a GAF shout out on the description box.

Done and done.

tell me the secret sauce.

also does anybody have a photo service they can recommend for 4k screens? for some reason when i upload them to my flickr they show up as an all white screen despite the fact that i see them as normal in my computer folder..

Cyclops' Bios over at OCN. You need a special version of NVFlash , https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhy5k67gdl71iy6/nvflash5-206.zip?dl=0
 
tell me the secret sauce.

also does anybody have a photo service they can recommend for 4k screens? for some reason when i upload them to my flickr they show up as an all white screen despite the fact that i see them as normal in my computer folder..

I've uploaded much higher res shots on Flickr. Should be no problem.

Make sure you aren't uploading BMPs or anything though. There's never a good reason to upload BMPs to the internet.
 
Cyclops' Bios over at OCN. You need a special version of NVFlash , https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhy5k67gdl71iy6/nvflash5-206.zip?dl=0

Oh yeah I was reading about his BIOS earlier. Yeahhhhhh I'm not at the stage where I'm ready to flash a BIOS on my 1k cards yet :p. What is your CPU clocked at?

I've uploaded much higher res shots on Flickr. Should be no problem.

Make sure you aren't uploading BMPs or anything though. There's never a good reason to upload BMPs to the internet.

Ah...I think that was the problem. By default my picks were in BMP format and I didn't realize it.
 
The kick in the nuts was to find out that it's actually not possible to hit locked 60 fps at 4K max settings and no AA, even with 2 Titan Xs! It hovers in the high 40s during the starting scene (which is known to be very taxing) and has a ton of input lag. With proper AA, it's down to low 30s and near unplayable lag :/

I was able to get over 60fps+ on max, 4k, with FXAA and TXAA High. Here are some screens. A few from the taxing first level as well. You can see my FPS reading from Precision on the left:

FXAA:

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TXAA High

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I did notice that TXAA does introduce some noticeable input lag compared to FXAA.

4.625. Not the best but thats what I run it at since it does folding alot.


I'm at 4.5 on 4930k. So the difference is literally the custom BIOS...hmm.
 
I'm at 4.5 on 4930k. So the difference is literally the custom BIOS...hmm.

Yeah, prior to the bios I could do +200 core with some instability (i forgot the mem) After the bios I got +350 core +525 mem. Basically the clocks of my weaker gpu, which is only -13mhz/-75mhz weaker than the other one.
 
Oh yeah I was reading about his BIOS earlier. Yeahhhhhh I'm not at the stage where I'm ready to flash a BIOS on my 1k cards yet :p.

Gotta be willing to risk more than the other guys if you wanna be top dog. :D

OCN BIOS are perfectly safe if you know what you're doing. I flashed my 780Tis and 980s with them pretty much first day. Never had any problems.

Still, do it at your own risk. I'm not gonna be liable if you fuck up $2K worth of GPUs. lol
 
I was able to get over 60fps+ on max, 4k, with FXAA and TXAA High. Here are some screens. A few from the taxing first level as well. You can see my FPS reading from Precision on the left:

FXAA:

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TXAA High

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I did notice that TXAA does introduce some noticeable input lag compared to FXAA.

I'm at 4.5 on 4930k. So the difference is literally the custom BIOS...hmm.

I'm at 4.25 on 4930k. Can't make that big a difference. Interesting. I'm wondering if I'm having a big overhead in downsampling because I don't have a 4k screen...
 
Yeah, prior to the bios I could do +200 core with some instability (i forgot the mem) After the bios I got +350 core +525 mem. Basically the clocks of my weaker gpu, which is only -13mhz/-75mhz weaker than the other one.
How much of an increase in voltage is that bios providing?
 
Made it to first place ^^ Enjoying it while it lasts.

Very nice!!! I tried like hell to get #1 on Friday. Could not do it. :)

Which BIOS did you use? Thanks for the link to NVFLASH.

EDIT: found it! http://www.overclock.net/t/1546747/official-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-owners-club/350#post_23684660

Now trying to find flashing instructions - if you can hand me the commands you used...haven't done this since the 780 Classy...

EDIT2: found these instructions on my own site - lol - is this still accurate? http://1pcent.com/?p=277
 
Very nice!!! I tried like hell to get #1 on Friday. Could not do it. :)

Which BIOS did you use? Thanks for the link to NVFLASH.

EDIT: found it! http://www.overclock.net/t/1546747/official-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-owners-club/350#post_23684660

Now trying to find flashing instructions - if you can hand me the commands you used...haven't done this since the 780 Classy...

EDIT2: found these instructions on my own site - lol - is this still accurate? http://1pcent.com/?p=277
The way I did it was thru windows, dragging and droppin the bios to nvflash.exe following what nvflash said about the gpu's. Then disabled the pci slot for my first gpu so i could flash the second one.

Might try my own bios mod. I'm familiar with kepler but maxwell is new to me.
 
If you're using TXAA or FXAA at 4K in Crysis 3, I recommend tweaking the sharpening parameter (in the console) a wee bit. Looks much more crisp that way.

4K (downsampled to 1920x1080) + TXAA + r_sharpening 0.35


TXAA just looks a bit blurry to me. Does a great job in motion though.
 
Thanks!



How big of an issue is this to you mr stroke?

Zero (though I am not that sensitive to it)



Trust me on this one guys, RUN don't walk and buy this monitor now!!!!

Right now I am using an LG Ultrawide curved 34" & DELL 32"4k and the Philips. I was also previously using a surround 3x BenQ 144hz set up. And the 40" Philips smokes them all. The black levels are close to my Panasonic Plasma, and the size is insane. If it had 144hz and Gsync it would be the perfect monitor.


Size comparison vs LG curved ultra wide & DELL 32" 4k-

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Dell UltraSharp 32" UP3214Q(Already massive DELL 32" to the right looks tiny by comparison)
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Zero (though I am not that sensitive to it)



Trust me on this one guys, RUN don't walk and buy this monitor now!!!!

Right now I am using an LG Ultrawide curved 34" & DELL 32"4k and the Philips. I was also previously using a surround 3x BenQ 144hz set up. And the 40" Philips smokes them all. The black levels are close to my Panasonic Plasma, and the size is insane. If it had 144hz and Gsync it would be the perfect monitor.

Looks nice, but 60Hz is becoming borderline unusable to me. :(
 
Guys! I figured out why my 4k DSR does not perform as well as Smokey's 4k native! DSR does not work on SLI configurations! It's just using one card and not the other. I disabled one card and am still getting the exact same performance :/

Hope Nvidia addresses this in the future. Guess my incentive to get a 4K TV just went up!
 
Star Citizen is using 5.5GB of VRAM running at 40FPS @ 1440p and I'm just walking around the hangar. There aren't many options to adjust so that just makes me wonder if they're throwing 5.5GB of data at everyone who plays this game in its unoptimized state, or is it scaling with the players GPU.
 
Guys! I figured out why my 4k DSR does not perform as well as Smokey's 4k native! DSR does not work on SLI configurations! It's just using one card and not the other. I disabled one card and am still getting the exact same performance :/

Hope Nvidia addresses this in the future. Guess my incentive to get a 4K TV just went up!

Oh damn

I completely forgot about that lol
 
OMG! I managed to resolve the issue. I disabled DSR and used this technique instead! Now I get more than double the framerate!!! Crysis at vsynced 60 fps and downsampled 4k is a breeze now!!! Thanks for nothing, NVidia!
 
OMG! I managed to resolve the issue. I disabled DSR and used this technique instead! Now I get more than double the framerate!!! Crysis at vsynced 60 fps and downsampled 4k is a breeze now!!! Thanks for nothing, NVidia!

It's the nvidia drivers that let you downsample that way :P So you should still thank them.

For the longest time, custom resolutions were the only way to go. And support for that has always been nonexistent for AMD (until recently when they added VSR).

I still use custom resolutions though because you can go much higher than the DSR limit allows.
 
Star Citizen is using 5.5GB of VRAM running at 40FPS @ 1440p and I'm just walking around the hangar. There aren't many options to adjust so that just makes me wonder if they're throwing 5.5GB of data at everyone who plays this game in its unoptimized state, or is it scaling with the players GPU.

As I understand it, the Hangar Module hasn't seen *any* optimization recently, as they're (understandably) focused on Arena Commander at the moment. I know that AC / dogfighting runs much more smoothly than the hangar, on my rig.
 
In US

Just bought it from an Ebay Korean seller, VA panel + 40" 4k monitor is insane=plasma like blacks and iMax like size :p
Best monitor I've ever used

The way I did it was thru windows, dragging and droppin the bios to nvflash.exe following what nvflash said about the gpu's. Then disabled the pci slot for my first gpu so i could flash the second one.

Might try my own bios mod. I'm familiar with kepler but maxwell is new to me.

Thanks - my system freezes when I try to use that NVFLASH...I think I'm going to sit out flashing my TITAN Xs for now. Heh.
 
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Really, really considering selling my 980 and just getting a Titan X. I play at 4K and higher a lot of the time.

So how big of an overclock is that? Would I need to purchase anything to run a Titan X like that with good temperatures?
 
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