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Titanfall Review Thread
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Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Are we now suggesting that they have been money hatted to write long reviews that no one will probably read?
Spottiettiedop
Member
Exactly
DryvBy
Member
Everyone stopped talking now. You've killed the wars, Sir Peacebringer.
rakkadakka
Member
I guess I shouldn't be surprised about the user score at metacritic, but damn. Anyone reasonable should be frowning upon this kind of behavior. It makes it easier to dismiss real criticism and conversation as fanboy console wars drivel when you can point to stuff like metacritic user score shenanigans.
It's embarrassing for the gamer community.
It's embarrassing for the gamer community.
But that is the majority of the gamer community. It happens in every user based exclusive game review of every game. My game is only on my system. Purchase redeemed. 10/10. Game is not on my system! This is bullshit. I paid good money for my system. 0/10.
Just ignore it. It's the same on every forum and in every game based community. Nothing can be done. It happened a decade ago. It happened before that. It'll continue to happen. However even bad press is good press. So at least titanfall is being seen by more people now.
I wish the game succes. It improves on a stale mechanic. And it's a decent game too. It's a shame it's just another dudebro game.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I would've guessed that they're staffed by a bunch of grandiloquent douchebags too far up their own asses to realize they're essentially writing toy reviews and not the next great American novel.
Picking this up on my lunch break, later taters.
Neuromancer
Member
Interesting theory...
Hey you said it not me. But no that's not what I was implying.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
agreed. nice to see.
Nydius
Member
Maybe I'm just being salty but what I find more frustrating is the ability for people to "review" the reviews by being able to say whether or not they find it helpful. At the time I'm typing this, my PC review (score: 8) is 0 out of 3 helpful despite the fact that it's one of the few that actually goes into detail. Meanwhile, some dude who wrote "bad game ea suck" (score: 3) and pasted it repeatedly was sitting at 5 out of 7 helpful (note: his review, along with another one who only bashed EA, are now deleted from Metacritic).
Is it any wonder why user reviews have devolved into a state of partisan bickering? Those who would take the time to write something constructive are pushed away by idiots who downvote just because of the number attached rather than the content of the review.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Or perhaps these users haven't been wined, dined, and courted by Microsoft/EA for the last year. Seriously though, these user reviews have too many 1's and 10's to provide any helpful average.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It's just a lengthy review for a highly visible, popular video game. It's not out of the ordinary.
Neuromancer
Member
User reviews on Metacritic shouldn't even exist. They're beyond useless.
Probably part console wars, part people being fed up with hearing about Titanfall on every board every day. Of course every big hype-machine produces people who just get sick of it.
Unbelievable. My hope was that this gen the user would have control over whether to even install a single player campaign based on the whole "play while you download" stuff. Some of my friends who actually claim that next gen games and textures will easily fill up 50 gigs make me crack up.
DryvBy
Member
They should, but they should be monitored I think (maybe hard to create an account, Bishhammer mods). BF4 from mainstream outlets gave the game glowing reviews and the users didn't think it was hot stuff. Why should only the paid guys get to say if a game sucks?
Sometimes the user reviews help other gamers. Sometimes. I think Playfire or Raptr does it right. You get to see the highest ranked Good and Bad review. It's kind of nice.
This thing happens to almost all games, why is it such a big deal now?
If it happens to nearly all games, then his point that user reviews shouldn't exist makes perfect sense. Many people have had this opinion for a long time, why is it such a big deal now?
They should force users to create an actual review, then people wouldn't just do drive-by user reviews of "game sucks, 1.0". If they have to actually spell out their reasoning just like legit video game reviewers have to do, people would be less inclined to troll their console wars bullshit into user review scores.
SentryDown
Member
Jeuxvideo.com just posted their review (15/20) :
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/articles/0001/00019426-titanfall-test.htm#infos
Quick summary :
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/articles/0001/00019426-titanfall-test.htm#infos
Quick summary :
- very good gameplay, fun parkour, vertical levels
- 15 various maps, outs and burn cards
- decent graphics
- poor matchmaking system, lack of options
- very short campain and too quick progression in multiplayer, lack of replay value due to repetitivity
- poor choice of weapons & attachments
Nydius
Member
Agreed or perhaps only people who are verified purchasers can make a review. Use something similar to Amazon's Verified Purchase tag, only make it required before being able to write a user review. That way we'd at least know they own the game. Whether they actually played it or not before making the review should become evident in the review itself.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It is completely pathetic in many cases, I look at movie user reviews and I can get a rough consensus of a film based on the more avid users of a site. I look at some game user reviews I see a bunch of agenda driven bullshit often by people that haven't even played the game.
It's actually quite sad really.
It's actually quite sad really.
Nymphae
Banned
Arthur Gies writes like he's really trying to impress someone with his breadth of videogame knowledge and opinions. I personally can't stand any of his writing.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Picking this up in the summers. Can someone elaborate on the fun vs longevity factor. I know the reviews say it is fun but what about playing it for 2 days. Is it still fun ?
It does go a long way towards explaining why this industry isn't view with the same respect as many others. Put simply, we generally don't deserve to be.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
This need more love:
Games with fractions of as much content as others get higher scores all the time. Other games with 10x the content get lower scores. That metric simply is ridiculous to use as a detriment to almost any game.
I disagree. When you separate the constructive criticism from the garbage posts (my favourites are still the ones that start with "Although I haven't played this game...."), they can really help you make an informative decision. For example, the users who played Assassin's Creed mentioned how repetitive the game got, so I knew I wouldn't enjoy it. For those wondering how Drakengard 3 will be, you can see fan reviews on the Japanese Amazon site (since I think there's only the Fumitsu review of the game currently). I think they should monitor user reviews to prevent fanboy bashing, but I don't know how easy that would be for those sites.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Who cares gamers moan at reviewers when they don't take their job seriously, gamers moan at reviewers when they take their job seriously precisely what is your point. He shouldn't thoroughly do his job? Come on now.
People should have to verify they've played with some sort of tag the way Amazon does it.
Could you name some of these higher scoring AAA titles that have less content than Titanfall?
I can't really think of any.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
If people actually cared as much about this, many people on this site wouldn't love Vanquish as much as they do. Sometimes quality is better than a long mediocre game. Shocking I know.
Neuromancer
Member
Interesting, I've never even once considered actually using MC user reviews to make a decision. I get enough impressions here on GAF for that.
Unfortunately there's no way to police those reviews. As long as they're not laughably obvious there's no way moderation staff could know if you gave Titanfall a 1 because you thought it was awful, or if you're just being a troll.
Nymphae
Banned
That his writing is overly wordy and I don't enjoy it. I was responding to the other poster who commented on the review being incredibly long. Chill out.
There's a difference between doing a thorough job, and sounding like a pretentious twat every time you write something. I enjoy thorough, yet not overly wordy writing. And talk about thorough, this is the guy who felated the new Forza in his MASSIVE review, without once mentioning the whole microtransaction system/debacle.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You were ripping on him for trying not that he was simply being wordy. Simply being too wordy would be a constructive criticism. That wasn't the tone of your post and you know it.
Then take issue with the content of the review not the flowery language sometimes people just write like that. I'm sure you've come across it in any English classs/lecture.
The concern isn't over the score, it's over the price. The game should be $40, and I hope it sells poorly at $60 so a correction takes place.
You.
Nymphae
Banned
Uh, sure dude. I was ripping on him for trying to write a review. Don't try and tell me what I mean when I speak.
This couldn't really be much clearer.
Got the game for £25 on release and it has been amazingly easy to find low prices for months. Anyone buying it at full price is just a moron.
gioGAF
Member
That sure does need more love. There is a precedent. For example, even though everyone and their mom hates on CoD Ghosts (I happen to enjoy it, but whatever), it has a robust MP component (also contains ~15 maps), Squad Mode, Extinction Mode, the ability to play offline against bots AND a SP campaign for the full retail asking price. Titanfall contains what amounts to only the MP component (+ no offline against bots mode) for the same cost. That is ridiculous.This need more love:
I'm sure the Titanfall defense force will crawl out of the woodwork to discredit this notion with nonsense like Skyrim comparisons, that I am looking at things from the wrong perspective, that they will get more enjoyment from Titanfall than they ever did from any CoD game, etc.
That still doesn't change the fact that Titanfall is OVERPRICED. It is setting a bad precedent for gamers in which they sell you less for more.
There is part of me that agrees with you but there's also a part of me that feels like all games are grossly overpriced, especially with services like Red Box and gamefly. Multiplayer games are some of the rare exceptions that I don't feel like video games are disposable once only experiences. Titanfall to me seems like the sort of game that should be more of a service. Maybe not F2P, but something like CS Go where there's long term map and event support where the price is low enough to attract millions and millions of people for a long time.
I bought it at full price. I'm not a moron, I just happen to prefer having a digital copy, and right now digital = full price.
*crawls out of woodwork*
Would Battlefield 2 be a suitable comparison then?
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Why?
Dragonborn
Member
I'm really surprised this game didn't even hit 90. Especially after all the blind hype
Personally, I feel it doesn't offer enough to warrant $60, especially when compared to other offerings like CoD, BF, KZ, and Destiny
It feels very barebones
Personally, I feel it doesn't offer enough to warrant $60, especially when compared to other offerings like CoD, BF, KZ, and Destiny
It feels very barebones
Nymphae
Banned
For me, multiplayer only with no singleplayer campaign. Typically a full priced shooter on the level of a COD comes with a 6-10 ish hour campaign, plus in depth multiplayer. People have come to expect this. This game delivers less than that, but costs the same.
Give it a few months and you'll be able to buy it for $30. In a year it'll be $10-$15. These days you might as well look at the $60 price tag as the early adoption fee. The AAA sale / price wars is a gruesome one, and your nonpurchase (along with many others) can shape the future of Respawn and other studios, just like the countless ones that've closed shop in the last few years.
I swear I paid full price for Tribes way back in the day. Must have set a bad precedent.
Bf2 has mods. A feature that justifies such an arrangement.
Everyone can submit a user-review, in the end, it should average out to about what people would expect. But people will spend time complaining about the low score and not bother giving it a higher score to neutralize it. Not like anyone is stopping others from giving it a higher score.
the amount of content. you can see everything in just a couple of hours. people complained when they heard you could beat the MS:GZ in under 2 hrs and dismissed it still when they heard there were many more hrs of extra stuff you could do. you would be able to see all of the content of TF in less than the amount of time it would take to see all content in GZ and GZ is being priced at under $40.