It still blows my mind thinking about how much potential Bleach had since the original concepts were all great, Kubo just has no story telling talent. Aizen, for the most part, was pretty enjoyable through most of the arrancar arc's final battles. It's just that the ending was the most contrived shonen BS ever which ruined any potential it had of making the arc memorable outside of Aizen being a lovable smug asshole. It would have been so easy to fix too, just make Gin's attack be the thing that weakens Aizen enough to be taken out, none of that Deus ex Final Getsuga Tensho garbage.
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Tite Kubo's Bleach Manga Nears Ending
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It still blows my mind thinking about how much potential Bleach had since the original concepts were all great, Kubo just has no story telling talent. Aizen, for the most part, was pretty enjoyable through most of the arrancar arc's final battles. It's just that the ending was the most contrived shonen BS ever which ruined any potential it had of making the arc memorable outside of Aizen being a lovable smug asshole. It would have been so easy to fix too, just make Gin's attack be the thing that weakens Aizen enough to be taken out, none of that Deus ex Final Getsuga Tensho garbage.
God Dayumm
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It was a boring finale.
But from what I understand, Ichigo's kid got in touch with Juha's power so now he got his own Zangetsu and became a shinigami? If so, that is somewhat neat. A boring but proper finale for the series, too bad everything else around it sucked hard.
No meltdowns from me tho.
But from what I understand, Ichigo's kid got in touch with Juha's power so now he got his own Zangetsu and became a shinigami? If so, that is somewhat neat. A boring but proper finale for the series, too bad everything else around it sucked hard.
No meltdowns from me tho.
For me when Ichigo rescues Rukia and defeats the vice-captains, when he releases his bankai, when his hollow goes crazy in the Byakuya fight, when Aizen stops Number One with his finger and when he goes to Hueco Mundo.
FTFY
That's what I figured it was, he somehow sucked it up and basically Ichigo 2.0.
And I guess leaves things open for a sequel.
Mayuri positively stunted on that wannabe. One of the better fights of the Hueco Mundo arc.
Wasn't Szayel taunting Mayuri when was fighting the hand?
So this is finally over huh? Might give it a read during the weekend, it's weird to think how I feel nothing about Bleach ending despite loving it several years ago, I guess it might be because for me the series ended when Aizen was defeated and sealed away during that arc a long time ago.
ok,so many questions
but,we know that Yhwach has the ability if any one that drink from his cup,when that Sternritter dies,his power returns to Yhwach.
why the fuck didn't he use it?
also,Yhwach defeated ichigo several times,why he didn't sliced him like he did with yamamoto?
but,we know that Yhwach has the ability if any one that drink from his cup,when that Sternritter dies,his power returns to Yhwach.
why the fuck didn't he use it?
also,Yhwach defeated ichigo several times,why he didn't sliced him like he did with yamamoto?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Wew lad. Ichigo is 15. Rukia is like hundreds of years old.
ArgyleReptile
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Didn't stop Isshin and Misaki.
Thanks for reminding me that even this mess of a final arc still had a chance to go somewhere that wasn't awful. Also, Ichigo should be dead after that, not passed out. His organs are 2 dimensional at that point....which reminds me,
How does his kid have shinigami powers and his own zanpakutou already? Is this like the DBZ thing where the more watered down your genetics are the stronger traits become?
Anybody needing a new manga after Bleach should read Claymore. It's not new and it's not really similar to Bleach at all, but it's the best "battle manga" I've ever come across, by far. Under 160 chapters total, very unique all around and strong writing/characters. It's just the best.
Let's just pretend that he agreed to be the Soul King from Muken for a few millennia to see how he likes it.
UnemployedVillain
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What happened to Grimmjow anyway?
ArgyleReptile
Banned
Cassandra the Queen.
Died inside Askin's poison bubble alongside Urahara, Yoruichi, Nel and Yoruichi's brother I'm guessing.
Zoe
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And he was able to transform at will without leaving his body.
What's even worse is that we were told that new Shinigami get handed an Asauchi when they join the academy. Ichika having one makes sense, Kazui not so much
Do we really know who died though? I'm looking back at that chapter and we never really got anything conclusive other than Urahara dying. Nel was seen diving into it but then it all just ends... with no conclusion.
I think it may have something to do with that whole absorbing Yhwach's remaining power thing.
Kazui absorbed it (how? Hell if I know. Probably something to do with his Quincy heritage, I guess, their whole schtick was absorbing stuff, after all) and since Zangetsu looked like a younger Yhwach and whatnot and...
Just don't read too much into it, honestly, its Kubo, he ain't gotta explain shit.
UnemployedVillain
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Fucking Kubo
Admittedly with a more open connection between Ichigo and Soul Society versus Isshin being in a pseudo-exile it isn't out of the question to get him one.
Or Kubo just forgot like he forgot the world's supposed to fucking fall apart without a Soul King. Or he has his own weird powers stemming from Orihime still technically being what seems to be a Fullbringer. And hell, even if she's not there's probably some sort of power that got mixed in.
why?
SchrodingerC
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So this is the end, huh? This is what I've dedicated 10 years to reading.
Kubo's final troll.
😐😐😐
I'm going to reread D.Gray-Man and Berserk to rid of this Bleach stank.
Edit: and god damn Kubo did Chad dirty til the end. What a waste of a character.
Kubo's final troll.
😐😐😐
I'm going to reread D.Gray-Man and Berserk to rid of this Bleach stank.
Edit: and god damn Kubo did Chad dirty til the end. What a waste of a character.
Only had to throw away every single established aspect of his character to do it.
There's a few people here saying it's good so why not?
Where? Who? Also it's bad. Actually similar to Bleach. Peaks pretty early and then it's all down hill
One Piece, Tokyo Ghoul and Kingdom are all fantastic weekly manga and are miles ahead of Bleach in quality.
SkywardBeam
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He had an agreement with Shunsui. He would remove a few of the bindings in exchange for Aizen's help against Yhwach. Remember, in the final chapter, Aizen is not fully covered in straps like he was before Shunsui visited him in Muken. Furthermore, Yhwach destroyed Kyouka Suigetsu, for real this time. Which means that Aizen is still immortal thanks to the Hogyoku, but not nearly as powerful as before. So I think they could have confined him again if he really did resist. Which I doubt. I mean, come on, why would he take any risks? Those 20 000 years are nothing for him. He can wait.
That's what was going on there? I couldn't understand what the hell was happening, the kid just stuck his hand in something and *poof* big bad guy is gone forever. Wasn't at all clear to me he was actually absorbing the power.
He seemed to be aware of being a Shinigami before that though from the way he was talking and was able to just transform himself so easily. I doubt his powers came from the absorption of Yhwach's power.
Well if you see it like that i can get some closure to this horrendous mess, but man oh man, like half of all the characters just forgotten, thrown in to oblivion.
Again what a mess
Shit if that's the case then Berserk it is.
Last I checked Zanpakutos are only destroyed for real in bankai form (and presumably are fine in unreleased/shikai.) So he probably still has his Zanpakuto assuming it wasn't an illusion while fighting Yhwach, in which case he was even more ineffective.
Wheeljack539
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His kid is very likely a Fullbringer. The way his uniform molded over his real body was exactly like how Ichigo's did during his Fullbringer second stage discovery. That is likely why he said "Kind of a shinigami too".
But he still has a Zanpakutou that seems to come out of nowhere. Would a Fullbringer have that?
Ragnorok64
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I feel like Kubo gave up on keeping it straight as to when Ichigo (or anybody else for that matter) is in his physical body or not.
he realized $$$ is what truly moves the world, not some ghosts or fights in ghostlands.
That's how I interpreted it, at least. I asked a page or two back if anyone else had an explanation.
I'm just thinking that he may've absorbed Yhwach's power because of the whole punching-the-whatever-that-was thing, the instant disappearance of the power, and how his sword kinda looks like Zangetsu's (least, the hilt does), and how Zangetsu was tied to Yhwach inside Ichigo.
As for the whole shinigami thing, I imagine he knows from his parents. And he does say "I'm kind of a shinigami too!", implying that he's not quite a shinigami (though that may just be due to translation).
They went to Home Depot and got a replacement Soul King.
I think he had plenty of storytelling talent, but whether it was weakening editorial control or just that he was making some other change to make the story more mass-appealing, he started changing that after Soul Society. Like i said, you see the start of the shift in Hueco Mundo, the arc where only Ichigo, Renji, Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Mayuri, Kyouraku, and Zaraki accomplish anything meaningful. So much of the Soul Society suddenly sidelines and it only gets worse from there.
SchrodingerC
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Nothing says an ending like leaving a shit ton of unanswered questions and possible plot holes. Maybe Shonen should've let Kubo finish the series off at chapter 700, or at least chapter 690.
SkywardBeam
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That would actually make the situation even better for Aizen. Still access to hypnosis power, his left eye and mouth uncovered. Probably won't take long til he figures a way out of Muken, without having to use force. What a smart, handsome bastard^^
At least that's what I want to believe, 'cause the thought of Aizen winning in the long run (if only off-screen) is the only way for me to part with the series in a propitiatory manner (at least to some extent) and not feel completely robbed of 15 friggin' years of my life.
Riposte
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A rushed ending needed at least another volume. The biggest letdown of the series, a series of letdowns, is we didn't get a full final villain vs final villain fight. Oh well. I actually thought the final chapter was fine and cute for what it was. It obviously doesn't properly conclude everything, but that was never going to happen anyway. Probably wouldn't have happened with five more volumes.
He's literally had years to wrap it up. They got sick of waiting.
ArgyleReptile
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Lies! Lies and slander!
Only towards the back, back half does it start to peter off, but it's fairly consistent beyond that. Claymore rolled down a slight hill, Bleach fell off a cliff.
Kubo really should've just had Aizen chained up and being used as the new Soul King. He'd actually get his win, and the universe holds together, and it makes sense from a plot POV.
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