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TLC cancels 19 Kids and Counting after oldest Kid admits to molesting children

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BunnyBear

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So if they ban him from the show, what's the big deal if it keeps going? Besides the parents being somewhat non-assertive when they found out, depending on the evidence so far.

And besides it being utter drivel?
 
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EdibleKnife

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BunnyBear said:
So if they ban him from the show, what's the big deal if it keeps going? Besides the parents being somewhat non-assertive when they found out, depending on the evidence so far.

And besides it being utter drivel?
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Well beyond it continuing to support one of the most staunchly anti-LGBT families on television, giving both their Quiverfull cult and views on sexuality a platform (which I wholeheartedly doubt they'll drop after this); it's pretty much one giant indicator to the abuse victims within their family and outside their family who are closely watching the fallout of this that, as long as your abuser is famous, not only will you barely be acknowledged as victims, not only will you never get real justice or counseling, but everyone involved in keeping your abuse on the down low will go without consequences in the slightest and will get to continue being famous in the eyes of the millions of supporters who fell over themselves to claim that canceling your show was somehow the only "not right" decision that could exist in this whole debacle. TLC keeping this on in one move will justify the parents' cover up and minimize the suffering of the victims.
 
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jfoul said:
Pretty gross.

I'm wondering how this will play out since he was 15 at the time.
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The statute of limitations has already passed, so nothing is going to happen.

BunnyBear said:
So if they ban him from the show, what's the big deal if it keeps going? Besides the parents being somewhat non-assertive when they found out, depending on the evidence so far.

And besides it being utter drivel?
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Somewhat non-assertive? They straight covered it up with the help of his father's molester friends.
 
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BunnyBear said:
So if they ban him from the show, what's the big deal if it keeps going? Besides the parents being somewhat non-assertive when they found out, depending on the evidence so far.

And besides it being utter drivel?
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It would be morally iffy because it still features the parents that covered it up and the girls he abused.
 
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AudioNoir

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axisofweevils said:
It would be morally iffy because it still features the parents that covered it up and the girls he abused.
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This exactly. I used to watch it from time to time while I was off work for a year, just for shits and giggles. The fun factor is sort of lost now with all this out-- those girls have been severely wronged, and are just expected to carry on and smile for the cameras?

Ugh.
 
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shadowkat

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BunnyBear said:
So if they ban him from the show, what's the big deal if it keeps going? Besides the parents being somewhat non-assertive when they found out, depending on the evidence so far.

And besides it being utter drivel?
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The parents covered up the fact that it happened and did not get him proper counselling. The girls did not get proper counselling and had to live with their abuser.

Considering Honey Boo Boo was cancelled when the mother was photographed with a known child molestor, it's a bit hypocritical for TLC not to cancel since he had admitted that he did this.
 
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Enzom21

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Hazmat said:
This might have been posted (and sorry if it has), but if you wanted to see some of the RNC presidential hopefuls take pictures with a creep that molested his sisters, here you go:

http://boingboing.net/2015/05/22/josh-duggar-poses-with-his-imp.html

I know it's kind of cheap, because he was "famous" and they didn't know that he was a "child molester" yet, but when your bench has a high enough percentage of creeps that this happens, maybe you need a better farm system. Also, Jeb knew something was up:

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I don't know if it's that I know Josh Duggar is a pedophile or that everyone in those pictures is creepy as fuck, but those pictures look like some disturbing pedophile club.
 
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PhoenixDark

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I'm not opposed to the show continuing. People have a choice to watch it or not. The majority of people who watch are Evangelicals anyway; this is far from a mainstream hit anymore.

The question is moreso whether TLC wants to be associated with something this ugly. Given their history, from starting this show in the first place as well as Honey Boo Boo, I get the impression they don't give a shit.
 
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Rabbi_Vole

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Enzom21 said:
Yes he is wrong and a hypocrite. So you agree with him? Think Mike Brown was a "thug"?
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I didn't say he was a "thug." That's subjective and I wasn't onsite. But according to everything to come out of Ferguson, his actions towards the police officer played a role in the incident. I'm not saying it's right he was shot and killed, but I'm not exonerating him of any culpability.
 
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EdibleKnife

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I didn't say he was a "thug." That's subjective and I wasn't onsite. But according to everything to come out of Ferguson, his actions towards the police officer played a role in the incident. I'm not saying it's right he was shot and killed, but I'm not exonerating him of any culpability.
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Let's not turn this into a Ferguson topic. Put simply Huckabee is a hypocrite when it comes to his friends. He knew less about what went on between Darren Wilson and Mike Brown to say that Brown's death was unavoidable yet Josh himself has openly stated that he molested his sisters but somehow this isn't worthy of the same sensationalist attitude he had toward the Ferguson incident. If he truly wants to keep it real, why not say that Josh and his family could have avoided multiple exposes and public scrutiny by not protecting a molester in their woman-shaming cult? He's shown this same sort of tacit hypocritical stance before, placing one type of person as an other and excusing what he'd call indecency at any other time, when said person is 'part of his team'.
 
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MrPressStart

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This whole thing is sad.

1) what he did was wrong, and completely inappropriate but we have to remember that he was 14 to 15 years old.... so he was still underage himself.

2) I wonder what type of effect this has on his sisters and even the other girls this was done to?

3) I just hope that he is able to learn and overcome this. Reading some of the comments on here (and I know this is Gaf) but some are just straight up mean and a lot of this has to do with them being Christians. Everybody sins... and no one person should be thought to be any more spirtiual or purposfull than anybody else.
 
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EdibleKnife

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MrPressStart said:
This whole thing is sad.
2) I wonder what type of effect this has on his sisters and even the other girls this was done to?
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I'm gonna guess bad. Particularly his sisters and any victims within Quiverfull, since their counseling began with putting them in the seat as the instigator who probably should have dressed more modestly so their own brother didn't come to them at night. And if the timeline checks out, his youngest victim was 4 or 5 when he started. It's abnormal.

Also this isn't just some "we all sin" level screw up. This is the 'log in your own eye' that the bible says to take out before judging another person that the Duggar's conveniently ignored in order to paint LGBTQ people as monsters for most of their lives, including Josh himself. People are being straight up mean because as Christians themselves, the Duggar's walk the walk only when it benefits themselves but ignore their own creed when they know they can hurt non-Christians. Nobody should be soft on these guys, particularly if they plan on campaigning against LGBTQ rights after this as though nothing's happened.

And you're right. I do hope he's learned something from all this because he has children of his own now. The limited actions his parent's took to address this sends the signal that he might not have learned jack.
 
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Red Mage

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EdibleKnife said:
I'm gonna guess bad. Particularly his sisters and any victims within Quiverfull, since their counseling began with putting them in the seat as the instigator who probably should have dressed more modestly so their own brother didn't come to them at night. And if the timeline checks out, his youngest victim was 4 or 5 when he started. It's abnormal.

Also this isn't just some "we all sin" level screw up. This is the 'log in your own eye' that the bible says to take out before judging another person that the Duggar's conveniently ignored in order to paint LGBTQ people as monsters for most of their lives, including Josh himself. People are being straight up mean because as Christians themselves, the Duggar's walk the walk only when it benefits themselves but ignore their own creed when they know they can hurt non-Christians. Nobody should be soft on these guys, particularly if they plan on campaigning against LGBTQ rights after this as though nothing's happened.

And you're right. I do hope he's learned something from all this because he has children of his own now. The limited actions his parent's took to address this sends the signal that he might not have learned jack.
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I'd argue that, as a Christian, I should be even harder on these guys. They're the Pharisees of our day.
 
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Fenderputty

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MrPressStart said:
This whole thing is sad.

1) what he did was wrong, and completely inappropriate but we have to remember that he was 14 to 15 years old.... so he was still underage himself.

2) I wonder what type of effect this has on his sisters and even the other girls this was done to?

3) I just hope that he is able to learn and overcome this. Reading some of the comments on here (and I know this is Gaf) but some are just straight up mean and a lot of this has to do with them being Christians. Everybody sins... and no one person should be thought to be any more spirtiual or purposfull than anybody else.
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What's sad is that you and all the other Christians are too busy defending your belief structure to actually have perspective and condemn these hypocritical assholes.

He and his family members that turned a blind eye deserve much more than just mean comments.

Holy hell people ...
 
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Tubie

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I seriously doubt this show will continue after all of this.

Maybe TLC will do a spin off show with some of the more popular members of the family.

I doubt they can keep the current format by just acting as if Josh doesn't exist, because his parents were also directly implicated in this whole mess.
 
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