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TMZ: Carrie Fisher suffers cardiac arrest on plane (Up: in ICU, condition unknown)
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CloudyTuba
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If she went ten minutes without breathing I can't see her living besides being a vegatable unfortunately. That's just too long for the brain to be deprived of oxygen. My dad died earlier this year from this very same thing.
Yeah, I'm also concerned about how long people said she didn't breath for. 10 minutes is...not an okay amount of time to not have oxygen.
What does this even mean
How do movie spoilers have anything to do with this person's current condition and how does their current condition have anything to do with the plot of a movie
Why even bring it up
Oh good.
The reason why people are like fuck 2016 etc is its more about names they were brought up with. Alan Rickman david bowie lemmy david gest prince guy hamilton Muhammad ali pete burns and sadly many others I could list here who have passed thisbyear.
Just the names ive picked out are brutal and for many who post here are names that was there childhood and sadly it's only going to get more brutal in years to come actors and musicians who are the greats pass
Just the names ive picked out are brutal and for many who post here are names that was there childhood and sadly it's only going to get more brutal in years to come actors and musicians who are the greats pass
FeenixRising
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Would it be better for people to express their anger however they want and not derail the thread? There's a totally different thread in OT for you to express your frustrations about people's disdain for 2016.
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AliasGreed
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Man this really sucks, this may sound like a bad pun But all would want for Christmas is for her to survive and get better. She finally gets in shape is in a good place in her life and this happens.
Emerson
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Defibrillation is only indicated for specific types of arrest. A patient in asystole or PEA should not be shocked.
StopMakingSense
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Ninja Scooter
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Wtf?
Not really more, but more that we grew up with and looked up to. So it definitely feels that way to many.
Spartancarver
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There's no way to know if her heart had actually stopped. Use of an AED is certainly part of the BLS protocol which includes CPR. You can't tell in the field if somebody's heart is stopped. There are pulse-less arrhythmias which an AED can reverse.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
do you not see the difference between a lethal illness and a year?
on topic: my hopes are with Carrie's friends and family.
Doctors have better things to do than tell the media about it.
Imperial Bishop
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Oh no no no no.
Please, let her pull through.
Please, let her pull through.
Agent_Carnage
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2016 just wants to claim another great person
I hope she will pull through,.
I hope she will pull through,.
Escape Goat
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Theres literally nothing to discuss. We have no information. But you are right. Lets get back to Max Landis's tweets.
It's been an hour and nobody has updated us on her condition. I assume other people were on the flight, we just need someone to tell us that she's alright and in stable condition.
Spartancarver
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It would be better if you didn't care so much about how people choose to react to this news.
Yeah, this.
People are complaining about an incredibly rude joke someone made containing spoilers for a silly movie.
Robdraggoo
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The longer it takes to get updates the better right?
Means shes fighting, right?
Means shes fighting, right?
brianjones
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plz pull thru
60 is too damn young
60 is too damn young
TheMortarion
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Please stop asking about AED's and defibrillators etc. A large number of cardiac arrests never receive electrical therapy because the underlying cardiac rhythm does not require it. High powered CPR is your best chance of survival among a boat load of other factors ( extent of cardiac injury, extent of hypoxia to the brain, pre existing health problems and co mobidity factors etc etc ). From there it's a factor of the competence of the EMS system followed by the distance to the closest hospital with appropriate resources.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
It doesn't make any sense to you because a moderator deleted like 30 posts that were related to the post that you quoted
Her life is more important than our well being.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Carrie-Fisher-Suffers-Massive-Heart-Attack--408079345.html
Law enforcement has said her condition is "not good."
Hopefully she pulls through.
Law enforcement has said her condition is "not good."
Hopefully she pulls through.
Yes, there was probably an AED on board, and yes, they probably used it, which means they hooked it up... it's an Automatic defibrillator, remember.. it will discharge if it needs to, and if it detects a type of arrest that it cannot assist with (or worse, would kill the patient), then it will not discharge.
It's not some magical "fix all heart problems" machine like you see in the movies.
It's not some magical "fix all heart problems" machine like you see in the movies.
Emerson
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AEDs analyze the heart rhythm and can differentiate between the four types of cardiac arrest. Any ECG could also be available in the field and would show the specific rhythm. So I'm not sure what you're talking about really.
I think they would be more interested in informing her family than the fucking media.
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
In that case, it might be a good idea to just stop posting for the time being.
Already Torn
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Neither are sentient entities
They're both equally bad for the world
They're both ways of fucking venting so who gives a shit
Cardiac arrests can be in 2 types of rhythm - SHOCKABLE and NON-SHOCKABLE rhythm. That's why we ALWAYS put pads and defibrillators on. If the rhythm is a NON-SHOCKABLE rhythm, we carry on with CPR. If it is a SHOCKABLE rhythm, you give the shocks. Up to 3x
All AEDs well help analyse the rhythm and tell you to shock or carry on with the CPR only.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Not this soon. Would likely be hours before they informed the media if she passed.
Spartancarver
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Right, an AED can analyze the rhythm and determine if a shock is appropriate or not.
Those posts I was quoting implied an AED would have been pointless since her heart was already stopped. Unless I misinterpreted them.
I should have said you can't determine whether or not a heart is stopped without an ECG / AED in the field, my bad. Long day at work.
It's a legitimate question, what's with the rude response?
Like I said, I have no medical knowledge so CPR is just a movie thing to me. Frankly even abysmally low is enough to give me some hope she'll pull through, but lets just wait and see.
I never knew that.
So, if her brain didn't get oxygen for 10 minutes, if she pulls through, is there a chance she won't have permanent damage?
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