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[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Dark Match:

Chris Sabin pinned the debuting Shannon Moore.

They announced Christopher Daniels suffered a "Grade-3 concussion" due to the attack by Samoa Joe on the Genesis PPV. They announced the barbed wire match for the PPV.

Impact - Airing 11/19

Samoa Joe defeated Jerelle Clark. After the match, AJ Styles appeared on the video screen, discussing that Joe went over the line of the X-Division's "code of respect." He challenged Joe to face him at Turning Point.

Don West and Mike Tenay discussed the barbed wire match and who would be the number one contender for the NWA title at Turning Point and challenge Jeff Jarrett. Jarrett came out and demanded to know who he would be facing at the PPV.

NWA Tag Team champions America's Most Wanted defeated Sonny Siaki & Apolo. After the match, they brought a table into the ring and spraypainted 3-D on it. They were going to put someone through it with the Death Sentence but Team 3-D hit the ring and AMW retreated. Brother Ray said that if they want to know about Tables Matches, they can have a Tables Match for the NWA Tag straps at Turning Point.

Backstage, Shane Douglas found NWA champion Jeff Jarrett and Gail Kim at the door to Larry Zbyszko's office. They didn't get their answer.

Shane Douglas interviewed 3 Live Kru. BG James said that he had an announcement "next week" regarding 3LK and wouldn't tell Konnan and Ron Killings what it was.

Rhino pinned Abyss, hitting the gore after Sabu came out with the chair wrapped in barbed wire.

Backstage, Larry Zbyszko is with Jeff Jarrett and they announce Rhino will be facing Jarrett for the title at the Turning Point PPV.

Christian Cage came to the ring for his Impact debut and cut a promo. He said a lot of similar shoot comments towards PPV that he made at the Genesis PPV. Monty Brown came to the ring and said that Cage hasn't proven a thing in TNA. Brown tried to say that Christian was going to get the Pounce, but Christian cut him off on the mic. Christian said that Brown was afraid to lose his spot to Cage. Christian did the "Pounce" line. Brown attacked Christian and hit the Pounce.

Impact - 11/26:

3 Live Kru and Kip James came to the ring. Killings and Konnan were upset about BG James always defending Kip James. BG wanted them to give Kip their blessing to be part of the Kru. Killings said yes and Konnan eventually said yes. They're now the 4 Live Kru.

TNA X-Division champion AJ Styles defeated Chris Sabin in a good match.

Backstage, Shane Douglas was with Larry Zbyszko. Raven was in a car about to leave and Zbyszko offered him his release again. Raven refused and Zbyszko said that if that was the case, next week on Impact would be a "House of Fun" match.

Monty Brown pinned Evil Helvis in seconds after the Pounce.

Shane Douglas interviewed Christian Cage about getting Pounced last week. Cage challenged for a match against Monty Brown at Turning Point. Gail Kim came out and said that it was great that Christian was in TNA but he made the wrong decision at the PPV. America's Most Wanted showed up and told Cage he'll never get near the NWA title.

Jeff Hardy pinned Abyss with the Twist of Fate. The lights went out and when they came back on Sabu was there with the barbed wire chair and a spike, setting up the finish.

NWA champion Jeff Jarrett pinned Kip James with the Stroke after Bobby Rude hit James with a hockey stick. During the match, Jackie Gayda debuted, slapping Jarrett and got into it with Gail Kim. After the bout, BG James came out, leading to 4 Live Kru and Team Canada hitting the ring. Christian Cage hit the ring and hit the Unprettier on Petey Williams.

Xplosion:

Matt Bentley & Shark Boy defeated the Beasts of Burden.

The Naturals & Lance Hoyt defeated The Diamonds in the Rough.

TNA Turning Point PPV lineup on 12/11:

NWA champion Jeff Jarrett vs. Rhino

TNA X-Division champion AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe

Sabu vs. Abyss - Barbed Wire

NWA Tag Team champions America's Most Wanted vs. Team 3-D - Tables Match

Christian Cage vs. Monty Brown

Jesus Christ these shows look awful. Where are matches with Aries, Shelley, Daniels, Dutt, Williams and Strong? I know Daniels is selling Joe beating the shit out of him, but Daniels is the X-Division glue. The show needs him for promo and heel work.

All of this heavyweight bullshit is boring. Who really gives a shit about Billy Gunn, the Dudleys, Jeff Jarrett, or AMW? Why is Christian being wasted?

 

[Outcast2004]

Ok..what hapened to Monty being the #1 contender?

Thats what the match was for at Genesis...um.....WTF?

 

[Battlezone]

Why is Christian being wasted?

You people are never happy, are you? Jesus, he hasn't even been with TNA a WEEK.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I personally believe Samoa Joe should just be in the ring for the full hour every week stiffing the shit out of people, but that's just me. These shows look boring and dull.

You people are never happy, are you? Jesus, he hasn't even been with TNA a WEEK.

For the next two weeks, we have Christian cutting promos on Monty Brown. He doesn't wrestle a single match, but he gets to overwrite Brown winning #1 contender on the PPV? The storylines around Christian make no sense, and he doesn't appear to be doing anything entertaining. It's wasted talent.

 

[Battlezone]

Fair enough, but don't you think they need-in some way-to introduce this character to the TNA audience? Yes, I know the majority of them are "smart" fans, and that they know Christian from WWE. But you gotta build up a story with him, right? You can't just toss him directly into the main event (although the fact that he's linked with the #1 contender right now would seem to indicate that's exactly what they're doing).

On a semirelated note, I saw in the RAW is Eddie thread that the replay of the TNA primetime special did a .3 rating. Looking at their ratings, do you add that to the .9 the original airing received? Is there any way to know if that's 300,000 unique viewers-viewers that didn't see the show last week? What's the relevance of the replay number?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Fair enough, but don't you think they need-in some way-to introduce this character to the TNA audience? Yes, I know the majority of them are "smart" fans, and that they know Christian from WWE. But you gotta build up a story with him, right? You can't just toss him directly into the main event (although the fact that he's linked with the #1 contender right now would seem to indicate that's exactly what they're doing).

Well that's almost my point... he shouldn't be in the main event just because he's Christian, but somehow he takes over Monty Brown's #1 contender spot without having a single match. He should be rolling over jobbers for a few weeks, creating catchphrases and being funny, and then get really serious about the title. It'd be similar to how Samoa Joe came in, and he's probably the most over guy in the company.

 

[Kintaro]

Damn, these shows look terrible. =(

 

[Brian Fellows]

Sounds crappy.

Not enough of the X-division guys and Christian and way too much 3LK, Sabu, Jarrett, and AMW.

 

[evil ways]

Looks like TNA feels like it has to become WWE Lite in order to get more exposure on TV.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I quit watching TNA around the time Christian came in, I guess WWE is my only other option now. I wish they would try harder and become a bigger competition than the mighty TNA

 

[Outcast2004]

Sounds crappy.

Not enough of the X-division guys and Christian and way too much 3LK, Sabu, Jarrett, and AMW.

I'm holding out some hope. Hopefully the rule of their ppvs apply. They usually look like shit on paper, but deliver on screen.

I agree though, they need to get away from focusing on the Heavys. I have a feeling they are doing so just to placate Spike and their wants. It's great that they are expanding their roster with some nice pickups (Christian, Shannon Moore and Charlie Haas soon), but they just dont have enough time to showcase their talent effectively.

TNA NEEEEEEEDS TWO HOURS!!!!!!

 

[Guzim]

I quit watching TNA around the time Christian came in

So you quit watching this Sunday?

 

[Outcast2004]

So you quit watching this Sunday?

Seriously.... that made NO damn sense.

 

[LakeEarth]

I think it was supposed to be a joke.