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TokuGAF 2015 | Japanese live action superheroes hiding in shadows driving cars

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Caught up with Drive. It's pretty fun, better than I thought it would be. Didn't like MA-HA at first, but now I think he's kind of a likable idiot. Hope Chase
dies or is converted soon, since his fights were fun at first, but now they are getting more annoying than fun to watch, imo.

Also, Ninninger 1 subs are out. Now that I understand it a little better, I can say that I like the characters, at least from the impressions I got on this first episode. Hope this doesn't become too red focused, anyway. The mecha fights are fast, dynamic and fun, hope they continue like that. Normally they bore me to death, but the vehicles and specially Shinobimaru fighting were very fun to watch.

Dekaranger... I'm at episode 20 right now. I like the few things this series has done differently from the ones I watched, and the narrator still reminds me a lot of Metal Heroes. Also, I can see why some people call Torin a watered down Doggie. While I like Torin, Doggie is a whole new level of awesomeness.

Yeah Chase is already getting annoying now. Hope they do with him quickly.

At this point I'm always expecting Red focus, though the relationship between characters seem to be important here so there's that.

And yes. Good to know you see now the truth :p Doggie is awesome and badass! And contrary to what people say I think his character suit is really great (you want bad suit? look at master mao!)

Ninnin was pretty fun. Not too much going on so far but it's only the first episode so I'll let it slide.

This thing was great. Really liked the introductory shot. And yeah, the mech fight was good but that's only because one of them had a costume that wasn't restrictive so it can move around as if it was a ground fight.

Got strong Daigo vibes off the Red and how the others reacted to him, which I don't mind. But if you hated that you might be in for another year of that.

The suit actors do the dance the best.

I dunno, he feels more like a slightly looser Takeru.
 

Defuser

Member
Ninninger ep 1

For the first time in a longass years the mecha fights are actually good and creative, individual mechas and even Shurikenjin which the akaninger's mecha and can join in for a combo. I hope more mecha fights like this in the future episodes instead of the usual stagnant boring instant combine and bitchslap the enemy thats been plaguing Sentai.

The rest however is lacking, they crammed everything in one episode which should have been spread on 2 episodes instead. Motivations were half assed/wasn't developed properly and the fights were abit questionable, I'm not feeling it...

ToQger had a better opening.

Will continued watching for Shironinja. Fuuka is adorable. Reminds me of Shinken Yellow Kotoha.
 
Ninsquaredger 1

I like it. The action looks good. It does feel like they crunched a multi episode set up into one but I think I can live with that.
 

WillyFive

Member
What's that? Who's there? 1

I thought it is too early for a remake of Shinkenger, but I guess Toei has been trying to chase after that show for such a long time now that one day they were just going to make it all over again. I thought it was kinda funny and how they initially made fun of the "heroes coming together to defeat evil" trope by having the heroes come together and there being no evil to fight yet (that was quickly rectified).

I like all the characters so far, unlike in the 1st episode of ToQger where I didn't really like any of them (and they still stayed like blank slates all the way until the end, figure that); so them making a great first impression on #1 is great by my book. I love Yellow's comments during fights (reminds me of Adam from the MMPR Movie getting the Frog), and White pretty much steals the show. Red appears to be Daigo again, only difference is the new actor.

I love how after the boring ToQger mech sequences, this show makes mech sequences exciting again. Even with the pre-school level set up, it's hype as all heck; and the entire Shinobimaru sequence is just straight-up Toku with a capital T. The musical score is great, the theme song is good, ending theme is a bit boring, the special effects are a great upgrade from ToQger (no idea what happened with the special effects for that season, it was a downgrade from Kyoryuger, which itself was a slight downgrade from Go-Busters). The pacing is excellent, really fast and snappy.

It's true that it sucks that the show has so many puns that O-T can't really translate over without actively changing names or creating commotion; but I understand their hesitation. However, I think Ninger doesn't work at all in English, they should have kept it as Ninjer instead. Their justification is the official Twitter account for the show (@ninninger_toei), and that they used the website URL's to determine the spelling for lots of things in Kyoryuger, which makes sense; but that's not what it sounds like when I read it out loud.
 
You know, since they miscalculated once before, who's to say that it's THIS year that'll be the 444th anniversary of Kibaoni's defeat? It could very well be NEXT year (hahaha, vs movie shenanigans).
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
My only gripe is the long winded roll call.

Also why call them "yon" rather than "shi"? At least the reason to fear 4 makes more sense if they use shi.

Also what the hell are the other four doing lol

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Ninninger ep 1

For the first time in a longass years the mecha fights are actually good and creative, individual mechas and even Shurikenjin which the akaninger's mecha and can join in for a combo. I hope more mecha fights like this in the future episodes instead of the usual stagnant boring instant combine and bitchslap the enemy thats been plaguing Sentai.

But GB came out only three years ago!

Speaking of which the dance here is kinda underwhelming. GB and dare I say it Kyoryu had better dancing endings.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
Watching the new Power Rangers Dino Charg and this seemed strange to me:

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It's like the suit actor turned into a board in the middle of the tumbling performance. Quite weird.

...I still love "it's about to get wild". They also translated "shimiruwa" into "that stings" and "nobuharo <attack_name>" into "caveman <attack_name>". If I didn't know any better, I'd say those are pulled directly from O-T Releases.

Axel, Neo, have you guys heard this version of Black's OP before?

I'm pretty sure that was available as the extended version in the Brazilan release of the "Black Kamen Rider" OST. I downloaded them a couple years ago, but I lost the HDD that all my Tokusatsu stuff lived (I recovered most of it), but I didn't care enough to go looking for those old OSTs... :(
 
My only gripe is the long winded roll call.

Also why call them "yon" rather than "shi"? At least the reason to fear 4 makes more sense if they use shi.

Also what the hell are the other four doing lol

Because in normal numbers, you use the "yon" reading. Only certain combinations will give you the "shi" reading. They're not going to bend over backwards to make it work. Any Japanese viewer will know the significance of 444.

And the entire mech is set up as a giant karakuri doll/mobile throne. It operates with pulleys and other things to make the doll move, but it also doubles as a lift. In essence, the other four are "holding up" Red's throne, even when they actually aren't.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I agree that Fuka is easily the best character as of the first episode...and, really, the only Ninninger that really stood out.

Also, I really, really, really want a Drive X Ninninger crossover, just because I want to see the Chief and Grandpa meet.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Because in normal numbers, you use the "yon" reading. Only certain combinations will give you the "shi" reading. They're not going to bend over backwards to make it work. Any Japanese viewer will know the significance of 444.

And the entire mech is set up as a giant karakuri doll/mobile throne. It operates with pulleys and other things to make the doll move, but it also doubles as a lift. In essence, the other four are "holding up" Red's throne, even when they actually aren't.


Huh, I always thought yon is more of a "censor" much like nana.

And I get it that it's supposed to be a lifting throne, but I just find it hilarious especially when they try to control it like a lever except it's "solid" rather than being a lever, so it's like they're struggling lol
 

ReiGun

Member
Nin! Nin! Nin NiNi Nin! #1

Another "hot blooded" red. To be honest, I expected it given the feel of the series from the promotional shots and all, but it still would have been nice to have one with a cooler head after getting Daigo and Right back to back. I'll echo the statements that only Fuuka really stood out. The others weren't bad though.

Ground fight was meh, but I actually liked the mech fight. This was new for me.

I don't speak Japanese beyond a few words and even I picked up on some of the puns. So many puns. OT has their work cut out for them.

I loved the change sequence and roll call. Though I wish OT has pulled out a thesaurus and found some other words for hidden.

The OP and ED are dope.

Overall, I liked it and want to see more.
 

javadoze

Member
Too many ninjas! episode 1

I don't even know where to start, but Shinobimaru and Shurikenjin practically stole the show. While the plot wasn't anything too special as far as first episodes go, the humor never got too out-of-hand or forced. The fighting scenes nicely integrated ninja stuff just like Kakuranger and the intros for the mecha just had me in tears for how lovingly absurd they were.

Overall, Nin^2ger is looking promising.
 

KingDirk

Member
I want a gif of the suit actors making it rain so badly ya'll.

Really dug that first Ninninger ep. Looking forward to seeing how it progresses. Mech fight was doooooope.
 
I wish the weapons weren't universal equipment. It makes them less special when everyone has a toadgun or bow (going by the toy commercials)
 

Tiu Neo

Member
One thing that kinda bothers me about Kamen Rider Drive (I'm not sure if every Kamen Rider is like that, last I watched was Black RX, 20 or so years ago) is that every monster has two (or more) episodes. It's good for most of them, but I feel that some monster would be better as single episodes.

Also, I really liked the homeage they did to Brazillian 80's Comedy show, TV Pirata, using Barbosa as a villain.

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Axel, Neo, have you guys heard this version of Black's OP before?

Not that I remember! Pretty cool version, the lyrics are what I'd expect from a opening in portuguese.

Man, I miss Kamen Rider Black. Wish they released his DVD here. Maybe there's a chance, since (iirc) Toei released a collection not long ago in Japan?

Yeah Chase is already getting annoying now. Hope they do with him quickly.

At this point I'm always expecting Red focus, though the relationship between characters seem to be important here so there's that.

And yes. Good to know you see now the truth :p Doggie is awesome and badass! And contrary to what people say I think his character suit is really great (you want bad suit? look at master mao!)

I dunno, he feels more like a slightly looser Takeru.

Yeah, I hope they focus on the character relationships more. I've got nothing against this new red (yet), but the other characters look more interesting to me.

And Doggie's costume never bothered me, to tell the truth. Maybe it's because I had already seen it on Gokaigers, but to me he's just another character.

Wait a minute, what happened to Tokkachi liked Mio (was that her name?)?

On the last episode, when they
were back to being kids, Mio holds Tokatti's hand, and he's happy about that. I thought it was kinda sweet, seeing as they are kids and all that.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's a thing since Decade - ep arcs are two parters. Gaim does away with it. W does it well.
 

Tiu Neo

Member
Oh, I see. I think it works well most of the times, but some arcs felt like they dragged on a lot. Well, it's a way of doing no/less fillers, at least.
 

NeonZ

Member
Axel, Neo, have you guys heard this version of Black's OP before?

Huh, I had never seen that, neat. Although I always preferred RX's opening.

One thing that kinda bothers me about Kamen Rider Drive (I'm not sure if every Kamen Rider is like that, last I watched was Black RX, 20 or so years ago) is that every monster has two (or more) episodes. It's good for most of them, but I feel that some monster would be better as single episodes.

Most Rider series since Kuuga do that.

They used to spice up the format by using pallet swaps or small suit tweaks rather than actually the same monster in two episodes every time (Agito, Faiz and Kabuto do that), but since around Den-O it has been basically always played straight with a single exception (Gaim). Well, in Decade it was 2 episodes per world, rather than 2 per monster, but it results in a similar format.
 

WarRock

Member
I agree with Doggie, Red felt more like a shonen-esque Takeru than Daigo to me. But we'll see. Agreed with everybody saying that Shiro stole the show too.

One thing that kinda bothers me about Kamen Rider Drive (I'm not sure if every Kamen Rider is like that, last I watched was Black RX, 20 or so years ago) is that every monster has two (or more) episodes. It's good for most of them, but I feel that some monster would be better as single episodes.

Also, I really liked the homeage they did to Brazillian 80's Comedy show, TV Pirata, using Barbosa as a villain.

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holy shit hahahahaha

SO are we going to talk about Grim Dark Rangers?
You mean this? Going to watch it now.
 

Corgi

Banned
no problem with the short. Love all the little nods, although casting the porn stars as female power ranger villains is a stretch.


Would actually love to see the whole megazord model in a clean shot.
 

Corgi

Banned
that is true now that i think about it.

But they weren't really villains in this. just typical "r-rated scene so we need topless pornstars making out"
 

vareon

Member
The short was... Okay I guess. It's a great production and people are welcome to make any interpretation of Power Rangers. Grimdark version of childhood heroes is simply not my cup of tea, though.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
Watched Kamen Drive, not a bad episode though I wonder how long they are going to drag out the Chase being corrupted story line.

I have a feeling that Gou will get badly hurt in combat, due to his reckless and Kiriko somehow gets to Chase causing him to steps in and take over for Gou for awhile.

Also watched the first episode of Super Sentai Ninninger, I may have a crush on Kasumi. :|

I also dug the family angle they are going with and the costume and mech. So yeah I am gonna a stick around for Ninninger.
 

WarRock

Member
Ultraman Tiga & Ultraman Dyna & Ultraman Gaia: Movie which name I can't remember anymore
This is great! Boy is an Ultraman Gaia addict and keeps drawing and watching VHS of it instead of studying or playing... and obviously the TV show comes to our world thanks to shenanigans. It's kinda like a reverse Akibaranger, I guess?

The kids creating kaiju with clay was such a nice touch. Oh, Dyna and Tiga only appear (in suit) at the end for team up against the bigger evil/deus ex machina reasons.

Nothing amazing, but a fun 60 minutes flick.
 

LostAnkh

Member
Ninnin 1
I actually enjoyed it for what it was, and it was a rather quickly established intro for the show's plot. Obviously the other characters will have their own episodes to show us more of who they really are, but the small characters bits that they added in this episode is enough to get it started. I really like how the suits turned out, even if it is pandering to Shinkenger a little, they're a huge step up from ToQger and Kyoryuger.

Now I really have to gush about the swords, because they look and sound great. Although the other weapons aren't that interesting and they could've made color specific weapons, they've got a great arsenal. Speaking of arsenal, the mech and it's individual parts look good, I'm just wondering what else they will do with it outside of Shinobimaru and the Drago combination.

Overall, the series looks to feel like it's past Ninja Sentai brethren, but I'm hoping it will learn from their past mistakes and utilize their strengths to make it a good season.

Drive 19
This episode is really warming me up to Gen, and the other (and upcoming) cast centric episodes are making the show a little more tolerable. At least Shinnosuke isn't being bad at acting serious in this episode, and he acts a little more genuine.

Power/Rangers
I'll keep it simple; the production value is great, but I can't appreciate how hard it's trying to be edgy.
 

Slayven

Member
Ninnin feels so much more cohesive than Toqer already. And oh my god the Mecha was totes awesome. The dog seems unnecessary though
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
3 episodes in, and dino charge is killing megaforce and samurai.

ninnin is dope too. and seeing reds zord pull ninja tricks was killing me
 

Midonin

Member
It's a real difference in storytelling styles. Ninnin is going for action first, exposition and introductions later. While Dino Charge spent much time on intros and setup before getting to the real action setpiece. Not sure if that's a cultural thing or just how the producers/showrunners for both series operate.
 

Corgi

Banned
It's a real difference in storytelling styles. Ninnin is going for action first, exposition and introductions later. While Dino Charge spent much time on intros and setup before getting to the real action setpiece. Not sure if that's a cultural thing or just how the producers/showrunners for both series operate.

well sentai has done it the other way too, so its not cultural
 

jwk94

Member
So the girl I'm going on a date with later this week started talking power ragners wiht me. Surprisingly enough, her favorite season isn't MMPR; it's Dino Thunder and her two least favorite are SPD and Mystic Force. I need to show her the wonders of SPD.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
So the girl I'm going on a date with later this week started talking power ragners wiht me. Surprisingly enough, her favorite season isn't MMPR; it's Dino Thunder and her two least favorite are SPD and Mystic Force. I need to show her the wonders of SPD.

does she at least like the spd theme?
 

Corgi

Banned
thinking about ninin mecha... wonder why it's sword and shield. Has there been a non/fictional ninja that used sword and shield?

seems especially not ninja like... but I guess so does that mecha as a whole lol. Watching a review of the toy though... the dog seems so throwaway :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMfC3kIFjjY

The toy also seems pretty crappy. These sentai mechas have really been dropping the ball for a while now...
 
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