ShadowSwordmaster
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I'm getting that feeling as well.
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TokuGAF 2016 |OT| Fantastic Beasts and Ghostly Beats
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I'm getting that feeling as well.
Mr. Pointy
Member
These episodes this week aren't fucking around with the plot bombs.
EDIT: My mistake. The crossovers are the week after next.
EDIT: My mistake. The crossovers are the week after next.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Agreed. Still can't stand the "YOU-tachi" verbal tick, though.
Edit about ZyuOh:
Apparently that first MOTW was also a Team Leader like Azald and Kubar. He was in the first episode's version of the OP.
Villains having connections to the heroes is not a Sentai trope. It's a Kamen Rider one.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I did not know that.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
so both shows have twists today.
Only $7.79.
NeonZ
Member
Kamen Rider's trope is the Rider's origin being tied or similar to the villains somehow, not just a "connection".
Villains having a connection to the hero is pretty much obligatory in modern Sentai, like their predecessors having faced them (Ninninger, Shinkenger) or the villains have attacked the heroes or their allies since their backstory (Gokai, Go-Busters, Kyoryuger). Random invaders completely unrelated to the heroes before episode 1 are pretty rare. The last one being the enemy groups in Goseiger, although the final boss actually had connections to them.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Apparently some people glossed over it because he got beaten so quickly.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
LG didn't get a villain change.
LG's main villain were original. The Sentai villain was the pirate dude. They had to incorporate him somehow so they had the Lost Galaxy arc where Terra Venture was trapped into the Lost Galaxy dimension where he was the main villain. Shenanigans ensue. They defeat him, Terra Venture escaped, and the pirate villain was beaten by LG's original villain.
I thought he was talking about Scorpius who was the main villain at the start and was then killed off easier than a MOTW, he didn't even get to grow or assume a new form.
I always assumed the reason for that was because Scorpius was just a sack lying on crates, he looked like an alien (probably the most alien looking villain PR ever had) but he couldn't even move, you could almost see the stage hands waiting to wheel him off screen agter his scene was done.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh that, I thought he was referring to the Pirate, since even with Scorpius dying the faction is still the same.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I just watch it for the second time and noticed it. I guess I wasn't paying a enough attention.
MHWilliams
Member
I mean, Toei definitely could've delivered on that premise. They just didn't.
Tiu Neo
Member
I think it could have worked, really. But it needed better actor for Tsukasa and a complete rewrite for Natsumi. Give Kivala some use IN the series, too, while you're at it. Oh, and an ending. Yeah, that would be good.
And let's not talk about the Amazon episodes.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Don't forget not embarrassing Kuuga's name by having his AR equivalent be a lousy comic relief that doesn't even remember to transform most of the time. Decade had a lot of potential but was messed up by inconsistencies and a short runtime caused by the show being used as a stopgap to change what part of the year Rider premieres in.
Tiu Neo
Member
Oh yeah, that too. I liked Yuusuke, but didn't like what they did to him. And those Kiva episodes. At least they fixed that a bit, later, on the Nega world.
...OK, the show premise was good, but a lot would have to be changed for it to work.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
At least, the brought back the Sohto (Spider Fangire) into the Kiva episodes.
Tiu Neo
Member
Yes, and those 2 minutes were the good part of those episodes. It could be better if they used an adult Wataru, but I guess the actor wasn't available for them, since he did only a few small cameos...
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
That was weird when I watch those episodes. I was expecting a lot more, but I'm happy with what I got.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Ryouta Murai can be a very charming actor, as seen in After V. Really, his talent was a bit wasted. I'm glad I at least got to see him in another toku (one that's thriving at that).
NeonZ
Member
The ironic thing is that Onodera likely was treated like that because the writers didn't like the concept of AR replacements, and so sidelined him as much as they could. It's very noticeable too that his stretches where he doesn't transform are under specific writers. For example, while Sho Aikawa remained the main writer, he never transformed into Kuuga after the Kiva World. Inoue also never used him as Kuuga and generally just had excuses to get him out of the way in his four episodes (Nega and Diend).
When Yonemura completely takes over near the ending, he transforms in every arc, although it's too little and too late.
Decade sounds like an overall mess. Too many cooks, changing producers, a bad idea from the start (the AU Riders). Seems Toei learned their lesson with Gokaiger two years later since that was way more successful.
Maybe for the Fall 2018 series they'll try something like Decade again, only good and with more planning.
Maybe for the Fall 2018 series they'll try something like Decade again, only good and with more planning.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It was a mess.
Going to disagree. The actor was fine. But he had no character to act.
"Be smug as fuck for no reason" "now be naive and confused"
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
What was the cause of the problem anyway? Multiple writers? Writers not knowing what to do?
Also Zooger 5 is out, FUCK YEAH LARRY JOESTAR
Also Zooger 5 is out, FUCK YEAH LARRY JOESTAR
Mr. Pointy
Member
Zyuohger 5
¡Nooooo-!
But seriously it was very good.
¡Nooooo-!
But seriously it was very good.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
why is a zyuman speaking in spanish
Tiu Neo
Member
Maybe. Never watched any other thing with him, to tell the truth.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah, Inoue is a good actor, it's just he wasn't given a good character to act with.
It's like they don't know what to do with Decade.
It's like they don't know what to do with Decade.
AU riders were a cool workaround to circumvent the obvious problems Toei faced regarding returning actors. Plus it was reinforced by the actual Kurenai Wataru from the start! It really shouldn't go wrong. Except it did when writers decided to "screw everything, let's have the adventures of Tsukasa Kadoya on random worlds instead" after the 9 worlds.
It still has the best fight choreography though. Well second best after Kabuto.
yay TVN subs
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
man that stilted sentence still bugs me
"You, who's unable to clock up, are no match for me."
Oh hey, that's the Sonozaki Basement/Ganma HQ meeting room
Zyuohger 5
We MagiGreen now!
Larry is awesome, I hope we see more of *sees preview* Ooooh. Maybe this will be thing with other members, they'll get additional powers from other Zyuman left on Earth. Probably won't but it would be awesome.
Another general killed off so quickly. I do agree with the sentiment that the Deathgaliens are Warstar 2.0, and we'll likely get more factions leading into a big reveal. At least Zyuohger is a better show than Goseiger so far.
We MagiGreen now!
Larry is awesome, I hope we see more of *sees preview* Ooooh. Maybe this will be thing with other members, they'll get additional powers from other Zyuman left on Earth. Probably won't but it would be awesome.
Another general killed off so quickly. I do agree with the sentiment that the Deathgaliens are Warstar 2.0, and we'll likely get more factions leading into a big reveal. At least Zyuohger is a better show than Goseiger so far.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I really hate the designs of like everything in Zyuohger---especially everything about Yellow be it human or animal---but I gotta say the villains are really neat looking, remind me of Smithy's Gang from Super Mario RPG with the weapon-motif.
I also have to say Episode 4 was surprisingly fun, and I'm looking forward to Episode 5---the gorilla costume looks way better than the animal suits used for the main characters but I guess that's because a humanoid gorilla makes more sense.
I also have to say Episode 4 was surprisingly fun, and I'm looking forward to Episode 5---the gorilla costume looks way better than the animal suits used for the main characters but I guess that's because a humanoid gorilla makes more sense.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Zyuohger is better than Goesiger so far.
NeonZ
Member
They could just have gone for suit-only Riders for the ones that they couldn't bring back. The issue with the AU Riders set up is that it meant they brought back less guests than they would otherwise, since they set out to have new AU actor for every single one of the main Heisei Riders. You can see that the amount of returning actors immediately increases once the 9 Worlds arc ends, because they didn't stick with the recasting rule afterwards, so there was the disaster that was Amazon, but Black/Black RX, the Blade movie crew, Nega Otoya and Blade King kept their original actors.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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They have a bit more depth to them than I was expecting, especially Sela. After episode 4, the way she would react to Leo before really came into perspective.
Oh shit I didnt even realize it was the same VA