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TokuGAF 2016 |OT| Fantastic Beasts and Ghostly Beats

Sou Da

Member
The list bothered me so much I threw together a Kamen Rider bias sorter. It's essentially tournament bracket format with a bunch of 1-on-1 choices. It tallies up all the choices and gives you a solid ranking. It's up to you if you treat it as if you're sorting the Riders or the shows. I treated it as Riders, hence Kabuto ended up higher on my list.

Here's mine:
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I've always known I've had a strong Heisei bias, but the ranking clenches it. For reference, I added Kamen Rider G because I was bored.

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Good taste, like fine wine.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
1 W
1 OOO
3 Gaim
3 Drive
5 Blade
6 Decade
7 Faiz
8 Kabuto
9 Amazon
10 J
11 Den-O
12 Super-1
13 V3
14 Black
14 Black RX
14 Agito
14 Ryuki
14 Hibiki
19 Stronger
19 Kiva
19 Fourze
19 Wizard
19 Ghost
19 ZO
19 G
26 Ichigo
27 Nigo
28 X
28 Skyrider
28 Kuuga
31 Shin

Fairly accurate, though I'd switch OOO and Gaim. Otherwise pretty much perfect.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
well this is awkward

1 Black
1 Fourze
1 Drive
4 Ichigo
4 Nigo
4 Amazon
4 Kuuga
4 OOO
4 Gaim
10 W
11 Black RX
11 Agito
13 Blade
14 Ryuki
15 V3
15 X
17 Stronger
18 Kabuto
18 Den-O
20 Ghost
21 Skyrider
21 Super-1
21 Kiva
21 Decade
21 Wizard
21 ZO
21 Shin
28 Faiz
28 Hibiki
28 J
28 G

I swear W should be higher than Gaim
 

Nudull

Banned
I went in as someone pretty new to Kamen Rider, judging mostly by what I have seen (Ghost, OOO, Fourze, Kiva, Den-O) and by appearances/bits and pieces I've seen from the rest.

1 Ghost
2 Den-O
2 Kiva
2 OOO
5 Fourze
6 Drive
7 Gaim
8 Ichigo
9 Ryuki
10 Kuuga
11 Amazon
12 Kabuto
13 G
14 Skyrider
15 W
16 J
17 Shin
18 Black
19 X
20 Stronger
20 Super-1
20 Blade
20 Hibiki
24 V3
25 Wizard
26 Nigo
27 ZO
28 Black RX
28 Agito
30 Faiz
31 Decade

...I feel like OOO should be higher.
 

vareon

Member
1 Kuuga
1 Hibiki
3 Kiva
4 Kabuto
5 Decade
6 W
7 Blade
8 Wizard
9 Ghost
9 ZO
11 Gaim
12 V3
12 Black RX
12 Drive
15 Ichigo
15 Stronger
15 Black
15 OOO
19 Super-1
19 Fourze
21 X
21 Amazon
21 Agito
21 Faiz
21 G
26 Ryuki
26 Den-O
28 Nigo
28 Skyrider
28 Shin
31 J

I have no idea why ZO is high on the list. Top 5 is spot on.
Mind you I was comparing designs and cool factor, not actual series quality.
 
1 W
2 Gaim
3 OOO
4 Fourze
5 Black
6 Agito
7 Kuuga
8 Faiz
9 Blade
10 Ghost
11 Kabuto
12 Drive
13 Decade
14 Ryuki
15 Hibiki
16 Amazon
17 Den-O
18 Ichigo
19 ZO
20 Black RX
21 V3
22 G
23 Stronger
24 X
25 Super-1
25 Kiva
27 Nigo
27 Shin
29 Skyrider
29 J
31 Wizard

I think I like Agito more than what the list placed it at, but it's pretty accurate.

I have no idea why ZO is high on the list. Top 5 is spot on.
Mind you I was comparing designs and cool factor, not actual series quality.
ZO is great. The only reason it's so low on my list is that it's just a one-shot movie.
 

WarRock

Member
Fourze or Wizard? Your bias sorter is actually a crazy detector. Some of those are a complete guess of my part though (Den-O vs J? Beats me).

1 Agito
2 W
2 OOO
2 Fourze
5 Decade
6 Kabuto
7 Wizard
8 Ichigo
8 Nigo
10 Drive
11 Ghost
11 ZO
13 Shin
14 Amazon
14 Super-1
16 Skyrider
17 Black
17 Black RX
17 Ryuki
17 Faiz
21 Blade
21 Hibiki
23 X
24 V3
25 Kuuga
26 Gaim
27 Stronger
28 G
29 Kiva
30 J
31 Den-O

Anyway, a red Amazon? Hm, not sure how I feel about that.
 
Copying and quoting various translations from the scan and webpage that appear on /krg/.

Kamen Rider Amazons
Written by Kobayashi Yasuko (Ryuki, Den-O, OOO)
Directors: Ishida Hidenori, Tasaki Ryuta, Kaneda Osamu
Starting April 1st on Amazon Prime Video, weekly episodes
2 main Amazons - Amazon Alpha - Takayama Jin (Wild Type), Amazon Omega - Mizaki Yu (?)(Raised Type)
Horror x Hard Action x Human Drama
Contrasting battle styles between the two
Kamen Rider Amazons Season 1
The newest challenge of 2016, the 45th Anniversary of Kamen Rider
A different development from the Sunday Morning series style
Story similar to American Comic Heroes
Yu and Jin, the raised and the wild, the two Amazons who form the centre of the story
As someone speculated there, this sounds like Toei trying to do the KR version of Daredevil or Jessica Jones. For those who haven't seen KR Amazon, the show is pretty violent. The guy dismembers monsters and there's a fair amount of non-red and red blood thrown about.
 

shaowebb

Member
I think I hit I like both too much...
I do enjoy the idea that Kamen Rider Fucking G is juuuuuust skirting the outside of my top 10. I should get around to cast molding his shit someday.

Rank Character
1 V3
1 Kuuga
1 Den-O
1 W
1 OOO
6 Decade
7 Gaim
8 Kabuto
9 Blade
10 Black
11 Drive
12 G
13 Ryuki
13 Faiz
15 Black RX
16 Amazon
17 Kiva
17 Fourze
19 Ghost
20 Stronger
21 Hibiki
22 Wizard
23 Ichigo
23 Nigo
25 Agito
26 X
27 Super-1
28 ZO
29 J
29 Shin
31 Skyrider
 
Copying and quoting various translations from the scan and webpage that appear on /krg/.




As someone speculated there, this sounds like Toei trying to do the KR version of Daredevil or Jessica Jones. For those who haven't seen KR Amazon, the show is pretty violent. The guy dismembers monsters and there's a fair amount of non-red and red blood thrown about.
I read this on Tokusatsu Network an hour ago. It's going to be interesting to see it played out when it does come out.
 

WillyFive

Member
Rank Character
1 Fourze
2 Den-O
3 Gaim
4 W
5 Amazon
6 Drive
7 Kabuto
8 Hibiki
9 Faiz
10 Ryuki

Worked pretty well, at least in the top 10 or so slots.

Copying and quoting various translations from the scan and webpage that appear on /krg/.




As someone speculated there, this sounds like Toei trying to do the KR version of Daredevil or Jessica Jones. For those who haven't seen KR Amazon, the show is pretty violent. The guy dismembers monsters and there's a fair amount of non-red and red blood thrown about.

Sounds good in theory. Kamen Rider needs something new, and this sound exciting. I hope it's good, though.
 

vareon

Member
Being exclusively on Amazon Prime, is Amazons the most adult-oriented Tokusatsu project from Toei after all these years?

Not sure about Kikaider reboot, it advertised itself on a children's show.
 

Sandfox

Member
1 W
1 OOO
1 Fourze
4 Kabuto
4 Decade
6 Drive
7 Ichigo
8 V3
8 X
10 Den-O
10 Kiva
12 Nigo
13 Ghost
14 Wizard
15 Stronger
16 Blade
17 Ryuki
17 Faiz
19 Black
19 Black RX
21 Gaim
22 Amazon
23 Kuuga
23 Agito
25 Super-1
26 Skyrider
27 ZO
28 J
29 Hibiki
30 Shin
30 G
This seems accurate enough.
 
Being exclusively on Amazon Prime, is Amazons the most adult-oriented Tokusatsu project from Toei after all these years?

Not sure about Kikaider reboot, it advertised itself on a children's show.

I wish The First universe hadn't been tanked by The Next.
 

javadoze

Member
Hmm... So Kobayashi's writing this? I would normally be weary to see her at the helm again, but seeing how this is a shorter video series with not much fluff (and with a supposed "back to the basics" feel), I'm interested to see where this goes.

I can't wait to see the new Amazon forms: Amazon Echo, Amazon Fresh, Amazon Kindle, Amazon Dash, Amazon Cloud, and, the final form, Amazon Prime.
 
I guess this is as good a time as any to jump into this thread. I've not watched many Rider shows, so my list is pretty limited. Aside from the first episode of Fourze, everything below Kabuto I've never seen. Ghost is probably a bit too high. I'd probably say he should be bellow W.

1 OOO
1 Drive
3 Gaim
3 Ghost
5 Den-O
6 W
7 Kabuto
7 ZO
7 J
7 Shin
7 G
12 Kiva
12 Decade
12 Fourze
12 Wizard
16 Ichigo
16 Nigo
16 V3
16 X
16 Amazon
16 Stronger
16 Skyrider
16 Super-1
16 Black
16 Black RX
16 Kuuga
16 Agito
16 Ryuki
16 Faiz
16 Blade
16 Hibiki
 

vareon

Member
They look like a decent production. Dial back on the visual effects, put more focus on the story and it should be good..... On paper.
 

Nyanmaruz

Member
So is this Amazon net series part of the 45th anniversary celebration? I'm just curious as to why they chose Amazon over other Showa riders.
 

yami4ct

Member
So is this Amazon net series part of the 45th anniversary celebration? I'm just curious as to why they chose Amazon over other Showa riders.

I would not be shocked if they decided to make a new Amazon purely because they got a deal with Amazon. Seems like something they'd do.

It also looks really damn cool and I hope this deal is successful so we can continue to get weird side KR series.
 

vareon

Member
It's good to be at TokuGAF where reactions are mostly positive or "curious". Outside people are doing the "What have they done to my Kamen Rider" routine again.
 

yami4ct

Member
It's good to be at TokuGAF where reactions are mostly positive or "curious". Outside people are doing the "What have they done to my Kamen Rider" routine again.

Small communities on Gaf tend to be much more even handed than the internet at large. It's a mess out there.

Are people really doing the 'they screwed up Kamen Rider' thing again? This is a sequel to Amazon and it absolutely looks like a modern Amazon. I assume people doing that haven't seen anything outside of the Heisei era.
 
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