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Tom DeLonge (blink-182): Streaming music = Chinese people killing elephants for ivory

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Kabouter

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I didn't know I was being that evil for paying to listen to music ad-free on Spotify. Am I also evil for having a Netflix subscription?
 
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Mashin Haters

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idk i kinda get what hes saying but i agree and disagree.

Spotify is really making music too accessible for me. Idk i feel like i dont appreciate it as much as actually owning it.

On the other hand it really helps me find new bands to listen to and makes me more inclined to see bands perform LIVE. I love how spotify works with BandsInTown so i know whos playing near me. If it wasn't for spotify i probably wouldnt be going to the Death From Above concert on tuesday.
 
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hidys

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That is an insane false equivalence. It's okay to not like Spotify and many of the objections have there merits but that is just fucking stupid.
 
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Foaloal

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SolidChamp said:
Gonna overstep a bit here and bump this for discussion on the link.
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Wow. I mean, his "argument" was already severely flawed to begin with, but to have pretty much 100% contradicted his current view in the past? Definitely goes to show he's had a change of heart, and now his money is more important than sharing his "art" (haven't listened in a while, so can't say if it's worthy of that label or not) with the masses.
 
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vagabondarts

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Everyone's got bills to pay. I figured Spotify would be the new boogeyman when it got big.
 
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SolidChamp

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Foaloal said:
Wow. I mean, his "argument" was already severely flawed to begin with, but to have pretty much 100% contradicted his current view in the past? Definitely goes to show he's had a change of heart, and now his money is more important than sharing his "art" (haven't listened in a while, so can't say if it's worthy of that label or not) with the masses.
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His Angels & Airwaves project produced a series of "life-affirming anthems", which were inspired by an "epiphany" he had.

I can't lie, some of it is pretty moving, and I enjoyed it for a while, even if it was a bit on the nose and covered in a thin layer of cheese, it was pretty uplifting stuff.

Still, I'm pretty over them and DeLonge changing his tune in this way is really disconcerting. Now he's just coming across like a douche (because of the 180 he's seemingly pulled).
 
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Shaanyboi

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Yes Tom, people using Spotify will eliminate music forever. No one will make any more music. The 'New Release' section of the iTunes store will just be an animated tumbleweed. Guitars will just stop producing sound. All pianos will have their keys removed. Anyone attempting to beatbox with their own voice will suddenly convulse and die without reason...

Tom is just trying to warn us all... Why won't you believe him?!
 
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waypoetic

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The Spotify's and the Wimp's and huehuehue are the devil!

... And the record companies are the good guys that overwhelm you with money.

That's the made up reality of Mr Blink and a whole lot of others.
 
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linsivvi

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Joe said:
Why do some people get so defensive when a musician comes out as against music streaming services? There's a weird level of attachment.
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Because they are against a technology that allows better but much lesser known artists being heard. People who say stupid things like this are usually perfectly happy if the mass have to go back to MTV and radio to find new music.

Because the "industry" he loves so dearly is exploiting everyone except those who are at the very top, like this guy.
 
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Fiktion

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linsivvi said:
Because they are against a technology that allows better but much lesser known artists being heard. People who say stupid things like this are usually perfectly happy if the mass have to go back to MTV and radio to find new music.

Because the "industry" he loves so dearly is exploiting everyone except those who are at the very top, like this guy.
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I think people are reacting more to his incredibly bad analogy.
 
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itsgreen

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It's a small miracle that no artist made a Godwin yet...

Anyhow, they need to realize people have realized that old models were stupid.

I haven't bought an album in years (haven't downloaded one either).
 
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Saganator

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The music industry as it is can die along side RIAA for all I care. Sometimes things need to be destroyed before something better can take its place. Will give you a good idea who is doing it because they love music and are talented, and who the over produced hacks are (DeLonge). There will always be venues for musicians to play at and people to listen.
 
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neorej

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waypoetic said:
The Spotify's and the Wimp's and huehuehue are the devil!

... And the record companies are the good guys that overwhelm you with money.

That's the made up reality of Mr Blink and a whole lot of others.
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Haven't you heard, for every physical $15 album sold, the artist receives $25 from the label.
 
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Faddy

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Thanks to Spotify people will be streaming shit blink 182 song forever and no new music will be made. You should be happy Tom, the meager amount you get from Spotify is better than the $0 you would be earning from album sales.
 
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……forgetit

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The music industry is all but dead and it's never coming back unfortunately. Streaming is a way to still reap a profit in a world were music piracy is so prevalent. You can go against it, but you'll never make that money back.
 
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Cheshire_Buddha

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Huge fan of blink growing up. The one band that made me want to pick up an instrument and start playing. While I only listen to Dude Ranch these days, I still have a lot of respect for the group as a whole. Even cried during their reunion tour.

Tom is a fucking idiot, though. AVA is garbage. Dude already had a few screw loose in his head, but I think him getting addicted to pain pills broke the camels back.
 
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RedShift

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Is this and the Taylor Swift thing labels laying the groundwork for pulling out of Spotify?

It'll be sad, but hilarious to watch.
 
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Mesoian

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Alotsi said:
This is going to be a frequent occurrence now, ain't it? Established artists coming out of the woodwork to slam music streaming services?

Hey, it's a bad predicament for them, but them's the breaks. One might say that the iTunes boom brought about a natural progression to music streaming services such as Spotify. This is the inevitable trend society is heading in. You can't stop it. You certainly aren't going to get many people buying frequent music albums as they used to.
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Everyone wants to be Lars Ulrich, but don't nobody want to be Lars Ulrich

RedShift said:
Is this and the Taylor Swift thing labels laying the groundwork for pulling out of Spotify?

It'll be sad, but hilarious to watch.
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It'll be funny to watch them try to make their own competitor.
 
Amory

Amory

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I was just streaming some Blink 182 on Spotify last week.

If he feels this way, why's his music on their service?
 
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Archaix

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You people mock him, but imagine a world without the amazing creative input of people like Tom DeLonge and Taylor Swift. Just imagine if those two never existed. What would your life be like then?

Try imagining.

What's that? It looks exactly like today with no noticeable change whatsoever? Weird.
 
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linsivvi

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RedShift said:
Is this and the Taylor Swift thing labels laying the groundwork for pulling out of Spotify?

It'll be sad, but hilarious to watch.
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I think the record labels are trying to pressurize Spotify and other streaming services to charge more. Since 70% of Spotify's revenue goes to rights holders, which means the majority of that money goes to the labels and the big names. They want the money, but they want more and they don't want to wait for Spotify to grow organically. Typical short-sighted greediness from the music industry.
 
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faridmon

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Joe said:
Why do some people get so defensive when a musician comes out as against music streaming services? There's a weird level of attachment.
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I don't mind anti-streaming brigade, sometimes they actually do have a good point.
The problem is how he voiced such opinion.
Chinese People? Killing Elephant? Ivory hunting?
The fuck?
 
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kiguel182

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Archaix said:
You people mock him, but imagine a world without the amazing creative input of people like Tom DeLonge and Taylor Swift. Just imagine if those two never existed. What would your life be like then?

Try imagining.

What's that? It looks exactly like today with no noticeable change whatsoever? Weird.
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Well that's just not true.

There are tons of bands that exist because of Blink 182 and their influence in their scene and on some popular bands is pretty big.

You might think the world would be better without them sure but it wouldn't be the same.
 
ramuh

ramuh

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Oh shut the hell up. I guess we can go back to shitty sales combined with pirating. The record companies are the ones that help get the music industry where it is today. Blame then Tom. Not us.
 
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kiguel182

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Screaming Meat said:
Like who?
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Well, Blink paved the way to most early 2000s pop-punk bands. Without them bands like New Found Glory,Sum 41, Yellowcard and the likes probably wouldn't get any mainstream exposure. In turn those bands played a major role in acts like Fall Out Boy and Paramore.

They had a pretty major influence in the pop-punk scene that was both felt in the mainstream (with some of those bands I referenced) and in the scene itself with new bands still being influenced by them and old acts owning some of their success for them.

Again, you might or might not like them, but they are an influential band none the less.
 
old

old

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What if I told him that I use a streaming service to easily sample large amounts of music to help me decide which music to buy and that I still buy great music?
 
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linsivvi

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old said:
What if I told him that I use a streaming service to easily sample large amounts of music to help me decide which music to buy and that I still buy great music?
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They don't want you to sample large amounts of music. They want you to buy the stuff record labels spoon fed you.
 
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