Every single generation since the original XBox has been the same thing when it comes to this. This gen is not suddenly going to be different. Give it a year or two, the expensive pcs of today will be besting the ps4. Exactly the same arguments are had as well. Its amusing.
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Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition |OT| Lara shot first
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Every single generation since the original XBox has been the same thing when it comes to this. This gen is not suddenly going to be different. Give it a year or two, the expensive pcs of today will be besting the ps4. Exactly the same arguments are had as well. Its amusing.
Especially Polygon.
Doublesith
Member
Phil Kollar, who's reviewing the game for Polygon, has already said he can't easily see the difference between 30 and 60 fps. You can guess how that review's gonna go.
Are you serious?! The game mostly runs on 60 fps on PS4 and sometimes dips a little during some of the more heavy scenes.
This is how almost all 60 FPS games on consoles works, including BF4 and COD, You do not consider them to be 60 as well?
If you are disappointed by such performance you are in for a very tough generation on consoles (esp if you also have an X1), go get a PC Instead with a powerful spec that will stay way above 60 and never dips below, consoles are not for you.
JPeeples83
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Been playing the Xbox One version today, and I'm digging how much better it looks compared to the 360 version - although using LB to scan is a bit tricky since the bumpers on this pad suck.
Got the Shakes
Member
Good question. On my BB iPhone app, it says it's available for pick up today when I search store inventory, but when I add it to my cart it reverts to the 2/4 date.
AgentOtaku
Member
ho how the fuck!?
abracadaver
Member
Is the framerate on X1 locked at 30 without dips ?
wow what a moron. How does someone who reviews games not notice a difference.
You gotta be shitting me :lol
not_so_special
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its 16xaniso fxaa everything at max in a i7 3770k and a gtx770 4gb it and tressfx affects the perfomance
I've never understood the need for a console or PC gamer to talk down one or the other. But the fact is that a lot of games exist on the PC because they were developed for the consoles and PC is an afterthought. With the next generation of consoles out, I'm looking forward to the bar being raised for multiplatform games on PC.
With that said, everyone should be happy and should want the next gen console versions of games like Tomb Raider to look better than the PC version because consoles will always end up weaker than PCs and hold back PC games down the road.
With that said, everyone should be happy and should want the next gen console versions of games like Tomb Raider to look better than the PC version because consoles will always end up weaker than PCs and hold back PC games down the road.
After playing for a few minutes on the PS4, I suddenly remembered how awesome this game is and I will definitely enjoy this version to the fullest.
Those water drips on the screen look freakin real! Like 3D almost...
what's up with the 1080i video flash backs! .. I was expecting 1080p/60fps, isn't this next gen?... lol
Those water drips on the screen look freakin real! Like 3D almost...
what's up with the 1080i video flash backs! .. I was expecting 1080p/60fps, isn't this next gen?... lol
Unlocked 30-45, usually hovers @30.
Those cross-gen camcorders ruining our PS4/X1 games!
Yup. I wouldn't even say expensive. Console will get cheaper and keep up, but you'll be able to build a $1000 PC OS/display and all and get similar performance or better.
There's been PC's more powerful than consoles at release since at least Gen 6. Maybe even Gen 5. People are missing the forest for the trees arguing about high end PC gaming compared to these consoles. It's never been a contest in recent history, and it never will going forward.
What they do have to worry about is how much of a drag console will be on game development for those that can afford high end, and middle end in a few years. If they're smart, they should be rooting for these inexpensive boxes to be performance beasts; because in the end it's going to directly benefit their gaming as well.
captainraincoat
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Am i reading this thread correctly... the argument moved on from how gimped the xbone version and now people are trying to put the ps4 in the same ballpark as a gaming pc??
feels like 2006 again
feels like 2006 again
Instead of being overly bias you could just admit that both versions have their benefits.
If this comparison is anything to go by than its clearly evident that the console version defiantly has its pro's
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Yeah and that is the Xbox One version as well. Looks great.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
No I think people are saying( and they're right ) that this version is a improvement over the PC version, this has nothing to do with power....other then its impressive for a launch window game for consoles.
PC would run this version better if it was available, but people are jumping the gun and are not listening and getting defensive & are making stupid remarks instead of saying "that looks great, hope they patch or release this version on PC" like most adults would.
Pjsprojects
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Credit due,the PS4 version looks dam good on a £350 machine!
I built my pc with used parts and it still cost a fair bit more than that,yes I can play it on ultra with tress fx but some of whats seen in the PS4 version simply is not coded in to the PC version.
A good game on PS4,PC and even Xbone.
I built my pc with used parts and it still cost a fair bit more than that,yes I can play it on ultra with tress fx but some of whats seen in the PS4 version simply is not coded in to the PC version.
A good game on PS4,PC and even Xbone.
He said he can tell if it's side by side, but it's hard for him to tell otherwise. There's nothing wrong with that, and certainly no reason to attack him with petty Internet scorn.
I am waiting to see a true review saying the 'magic' is lost at 60fps. Then we will truly know who is bias.
Sure, if he said that, it would be concerning, but from what I've seen he's totally not like that. Easily the best egg at Polygon (aside from Rowan Kaiser, though he's only a freelancer and just started contributing).
Banjo-Kazooie
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Ported, not developed
UnrealEck
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By efficiency I can only assume you're talking about the secret sauce, optimisation and whatever other magical goings on hardware has when it's put inside a console's chasis. If a game runs as well as it can on both platforms, it'll perform similarly on similar specs. I've yet to be convinced otherwise.
Using Tomb Raider as an example. If you run the game on a 7850 at PS4 settings (or the PS4 build essentially with the new TressFX, minus tesselation and so on), I'm sure you would see the game running at 50-60 FPS.
3rdamention
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Just picked this up at gamestop. First store I went to was sold out on PS4, they looked it up at another store and I went there and got the last copy.....crazy....
Both stores did have the Xbox One version as well, this is Greenwood and south Indy Gamestop s, BTW.....
Both stores did have the Xbox One version as well, this is Greenwood and south Indy Gamestop s, BTW.....
I thought the same thing until I heard reviewers mentioning only the camera as if other options didn't exist.
SmokedMeat
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Couch? Pffft! More like comfy recliner!
Mikey Jr.
Member
How can a reviewer not notice if a game is 60fps.
You are telling me he wouldnt know if this video was 60fps or not?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-if-uncharted-3-ran-at-60-fps
3rdamention
Member
And he's the professional? I assume he is just laying down the foundation for equal scores for both versions of the game....He will argue that if he can't tell a difference then the framerate difference doesn't matter.....
Revolutionary
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Is there a way to export the full size images I've taken of this game onto a thumb drive or something? I tried simply posting it to Twitter but it seems to have reduced the image's dimensions.
I don't have an answer to your question, but I shared a game play video on Facebook and it looks like shit. Does not do this game justice.
It's not suddenly. The PS One and PS2 came with their own proprietary chipsets and developer tools. The XB at least had the benefit of their custom Microsoft tools that benefited the ports that went to the 360 compared to the much more esoteric PS3's Cell Processor. Gradually overtime, the idea that using off-the-shelf parts (Intel or AMD, as opposed to the PowerPC from IBM) and following unified RAM design and moving to the AMD APU architecture will allow for more longevity from the consoles. So, that "besting" will be less than previous generations just based on standardizing hardware alone.
Another factor is how much will this affect how many game developers focus on the console first vs the PC. Even last gen PC gamers complained that their port was always neglected compared to the consoles. Will that improve knowing now that the PS4 (and to some extent the XB1) and its AMD developer tools have been built from the ground-up with the developers wants/needs in mind?
So, when you say, "give it a year or two" I'll say, ok. The gap will widen slower. But be aware that this also comes with the added benefit to new developer tools and ones familiarity with the single platform AMD console hardware compared to the ever changing sea of Nvidia and AMD drivers, operating systems, and patches you'd find in the Windows 7/8 ecosystem. It's harder to please all PC gamers. It's going to be easier to do that with console gamers now that x86_64 standards have become more influential.
I have to convince the wife I need to get this game at full price. For some reason I have a feeling retailers are not going to have overstock issues with this game, especially on PS4.
Would his stance on this issue be considered... neutral?
Would his stance on this issue be considered... neutral?
Synless
Member
I feel that if you can't tell the difference between 60 fps and 30 fps in a profession that looks for these things when doing a review that the person doing the review should have to look for a new job in a different field of work.
Agreed.
It's easy to see and feel the difference between 30fps and 60fps when you don't have shit eyes and a shit brain.
For what it's worth, I've been playing the game in the dark and I haven't even noticed the flickering, and I even knew about it beforehand. It's not that pronounced. But yeah, they probably should allow an option to turn it off just for those people who get annoyed.
dragonelite
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After resolution gate can't trust gaming press when it comes to resolution
and if they only/mostly play on console framerate will be hard for them.
I tried looking. I couldn't find it. The only voice commands I use are "map" and "close map."
dolabla
Member
100% agree.
Is Polygon also one of the sites that said you can't tell a difference between 1080p vs. 720p? They do employ quite possibly the biggest Xbox fanboy in the industry.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I bought the ps4 version today after playing the ps3 version yesterday. Without a doubt, this is the definitive version on a console.
thatJohann
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PS4. Too much Botox, Lara.
