No. Most modern game engines use time based animation rather than frame based. So a variable frame rate is not a huge issue. For example, if the raw animation data is keyed at 30 fps, with keys on each frame, the time step would be 33 ms between two keys/transforms. Rather than update the transform at the start of each frame with raw keyframe data, you update with interpolated data between two keys, while keeping track of how much time has passed.
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition |OT| Lara shot first
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No. Most modern game engines use time based animation rather than frame based. So a variable frame rate is not a huge issue. For example, if the raw animation data is keyed at 30 fps, with keys on each frame, the time step would be 33 ms between two keys/transforms. Rather than update the transform at the start of each frame with raw keyframe data, you update with interpolated data between two keys, while keeping track of how much time has passed.
Miles Quaritch
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Goodness, this game looks incredible on PS4. Really blown away by how much work's been put into this port. The section with the buildings on fire...Holy shit!
One thing I can't seem to figure out...where do I go to access the additional outfits?
One thing I can't seem to figure out...where do I go to access the additional outfits?
freefornow
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Base Camp>Gear
Miles Quaritch
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CaptainZombie
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Azula, thanks for your PC/Console impressions. I bought this on the PC for $10 during a Steam sale in the fall. I am now debating if I should play the PC version I have or get this on the PS4. So would you say that the PS4 version is the better version to go with? I can probably run this on Ultra on my PC or close to it as I have a 2500K and 770 in my PC.
TheChewyWaffles
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Default Lara is best Lara
Miles Quaritch
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I thought the pics of jacket wearing Lara looked pretty cool. Need to see it in person to judge properly...
You answered that question yourself. UC MP also sucks.
Mountaineer Outfit all the way.
Brain/eye removal is a serious undertaking. You should have at least one week off work.
Melchiah
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The gear is on the right of where you improve your skills in the menu.
EDIT: Already answered.
Magic Mushroom
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UC MP is a ton of fun.
Delt31
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i know so why is this bad
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
1080p/60fps is arbitrary. PS3 can already do that. The question is how good a game can look while doing it.
Hell no. If you have a PC capable at keeping it @ 60~ fps with everything ultra'd out, there's no reason to spend more money on the Definitive Edition, aside from curiosity. (Which has taken me a bit, tbh)
This is coming from someone who finally decided to tackle the copy sitting in their Steam backlog as well, after seeing all this talk/comparison vids surrounding the Definitive edition. I'm nearly finished with the game now.
3570K/HD7950 w/ TressFX on, 1080p, and everything else maxed out has kept me around 60fps for the good majority of the game. Not a crash, or crazy performance dip in sight.
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My only wish for Nixxes to bust out is, even if they don't bring over botox lara, give the PC players TressFX 2.0 in an update.
Judging by ND's past games, it seems they like to squeeze as much visual greatness onto the screen as possible while maintaining the minimum accceptable framerate. I would expect this in the future, as well, and that's fine IMO (for their type of game).
I'm really enjoying it the second time around on the Xbox Øne.
But for some reason the improved graphics aren't making as much of an impact. I could quite happily play it on the 360 and have the same effect. The gameplay, for me, is the main draw obviously.
It's reminding me why it is close to my GOTY 2013 though.
Lara's hair looks nice. But I'd be just as content playing it on 360 again.
But for some reason the improved graphics aren't making as much of an impact. I could quite happily play it on the 360 and have the same effect. The gameplay, for me, is the main draw obviously.
It's reminding me why it is close to my GOTY 2013 though.
Lara's hair looks nice. But I'd be just as content playing it on 360 again.
freefornow
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The lighting alone makes a significant difference over the 360 version.
Spazznid
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Fuck me.
That skin is gorgeous. I hate the face in some angles, but right there it's amazing. Wish they would add the skin shader to PC, holy shit.
Sleepy Buddha
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Sure-Shot outfit's my favorite by far, check it out.
AgentOtaku
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Unfortunately yep :/
Tomb Raider's online multiplayer compenent is terrible compared to Uncharted.
TR has bad online in general. The animations look choppy and unfinished, even compared to the ones used in the main game.
Even if UC MP did not exist, TR's multiplayer would still be considered bad compared to just about every other game made this
generation that has some form online MP.
I think TR DE was worth buying but definitely not for the online MP.
TR has bad online in general. The animations look choppy and unfinished, even compared to the ones used in the main game.
Even if UC MP did not exist, TR's multiplayer would still be considered bad compared to just about every other game made this
generation that has some form online MP.
I think TR DE was worth buying but definitely not for the online MP.
I bet if TressFX was off it would hit 1080p 60fps solid no problem.
That's not bad, I could count the frames in Shantytown on PS3.
TIMtationX
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Because developers are now shoehorning MP into games that have always been single player. Pisses me off.
A bit off topic but this mod caught my eye. Insane. Sorry if old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7qmEzug4mk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
CaptainZombie
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I'll have to fire this up on the PC and see how it looks then that you say that. Even if the game could be locked at 50 FPS on the PC with everything turned on it would still be good imo. I bet even if they charged $10 on the PC for the update patch, people would jump on it instead of having to buy an all new version of the game.
Facundo_Lopez
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Tomb Raider: Definitive Brown
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Showing Assassins how climbing a tower should be done.
f@luS
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Im at 21%. Sometimes im in awe it looks stunning mostly daytime but also u can sometimes see old gen assets here and there. Overall good upgrade. And I love this generation .... Gimme more 1080p sweetness it's day and night as I sit 2meters from my 65'' TV ...
How is MP ? Worth trying ?
How is MP ? Worth trying ?
Black Door
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Playing the game, having fun
Notice my controller light is flashing rapidly
What the hell is wrong with my controller?
Turn it over; it's flashing red/orange/yellow
Look at the screen
Controller light flashes colors to emulate ambient torchlight whenever Lara has the torch out and lit
TECHNOLOGY
Notice my controller light is flashing rapidly
What the hell is wrong with my controller?
Turn it over; it's flashing red/orange/yellow
Look at the screen
Controller light flashes colors to emulate ambient torchlight whenever Lara has the torch out and lit
TECHNOLOGY
Just finished it on PS4. Fuck me, that was awesome. Game looks absolutely stunning. The credits rolled at 72% complete and I'm going back tomorrow to collect the rest.
I paid full price (£45) and thought it was worth every penny. Really glad I didn't buy it for PS3 when it first came out.
I paid full price (£45) and thought it was worth every penny. Really glad I didn't buy it for PS3 when it first came out.
sjagolinzer
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I always wonder if it is story progress or 100% progress it shows when you load games. I wish games made it clearer. I'm at about 50% but I'm collecting most of the collectibles as I go. I didn't buy for PS3 and I am really enjoying this game. All I want is a Farcry 3 port and I'll be happy. Another good game I never got around to.
Overall game completion. That includes collectibles.
For XP obviously. Trophies/achievements too. Some people like just like to get 100% you know.
sjagolinzer
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Personally it's not the fact of getting the collectibles but exploring the world and taking in all the pretty visuals. Gotta get my 60 bucks worth.
Pics don't do the game justice at all, they look like shit compare to whats projected on the screen
f@luS
More than a member.
Well. Still didn't finish bf4. Mario world 3d. And ac4.... I better play another game than finding collectible
imhoI never noticed it until people started mentioning it and now I can't stop looking at it.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I've gotten the collectibles twice. Once on PC. And now 100% on PS4.
It's not fun. Save yourself.
CyberChulo
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I think k you're right. I guess playing it at 30fps is like watching the game in slow motion. I just see more animated hair due to the lower fps. Just noticed today that the Xbox one doesn't have dof effects either.
been playing this for the first time.
so the graphics are probably the best thing about this game. the weather and ambience effects combined with the lighting system makes the game look amazing, and the game actually has a pretty strong art style so far i've been consistently impressed by this. lara looks really good too, but her facial animations are pretty average, leading to a uncanny valley situtation. laras voice actor is okay, but they need a better voice director.
the gameplay is enjoyable, platforming is fun and i like the use of hub worlds and stuff. it doesnt do the linear/scripted stuff as well as uncharted, but the platforming you get in the hubs is quite nice and change of pace. the combat is pretty rubbish though, maybe i'm amazing but its SO easy to get headshots in this game. the a.i is just fairly static and theres just no feedback to weapons so yeah that's lame. not sure how replayable this will be, but ive tried the MP and it's pretty shit.
don't see the point of the levelling systen, some of the basic movies are pointlessly locked behind a XP wall (like melee combat, why??), but so far i'm just not feeling or seeing a difference in terms of weapon or skill leveling. the constant gratification notification is pretty pointless too.
so far i'd probably rank it a solid 7, yet to complete it but i am enjoying it so far.
so the graphics are probably the best thing about this game. the weather and ambience effects combined with the lighting system makes the game look amazing, and the game actually has a pretty strong art style so far i've been consistently impressed by this. lara looks really good too, but her facial animations are pretty average, leading to a uncanny valley situtation. laras voice actor is okay, but they need a better voice director.
the gameplay is enjoyable, platforming is fun and i like the use of hub worlds and stuff. it doesnt do the linear/scripted stuff as well as uncharted, but the platforming you get in the hubs is quite nice and change of pace. the combat is pretty rubbish though, maybe i'm amazing but its SO easy to get headshots in this game. the a.i is just fairly static and theres just no feedback to weapons so yeah that's lame. not sure how replayable this will be, but ive tried the MP and it's pretty shit.
don't see the point of the levelling systen, some of the basic movies are pointlessly locked behind a XP wall (like melee combat, why??), but so far i'm just not feeling or seeing a difference in terms of weapon or skill leveling. the constant gratification notification is pretty pointless too.
so far i'd probably rank it a solid 7, yet to complete it but i am enjoying it so far.
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