Okay, it's not updated in the OP, so what is the word on the IGN update from Square ? As it been discussed ? Debunked ? What's the final word ?
I don't know, he seems pretty oblivious to me.
as a pc gamer- nope, more fps is always better. Genre or anything doesn't matter at all, any game feels better with 60 fps, it is not a matter of preferences or anything, it's just a fact.That update from Square on IGN is so tip toeing around the issue it's hilarious. Also the article on forbes makes me sad...
" but the idea that 60 FPS is automatically better is misguided.
“Anything running above that is just gravy.”
That’s just the wrong way of looking at your in game visuals. Even though this is the world of tech and we always like numbers to be bigger, frame rate should be a choice, not a constant upward movement. Lower frame rates can help a game achieve a deeper, more cinematic effect, and for games that rely on visual more than twitch controls, this is sometimes the right choice. "
Wow, almost 3500 posts already.
Alright, here's the deal:
This is fantastic news. 60fps is fucking awesome. But how many PS4 owners knew that already? How many were already sitting there with the previous 30fps news and saying that was just fine and that 60fps didn't matter? Quite a few, I imagine. Everybody who has argued that this 'type of game' is just fine in 30fps is about to get a great education in how 60fps fucking rocks with pretty much any genre. It really does make such a huge difference.
So basically, if you think(now or after you play it) that this is awesome, you'll have a better idea of why PC gamers are always going on 60fps. It really is that good.
Too bad this is just a reworked version of a past-gen game and that 1080p/60fps will not be the norm. But that said, if you find yourself very impressed by this, buy a PC! Seriously, the grass really is greener here. lol And you can look down at this bullshit console warrior stuff and laugh, knowing that this will never be an issue for you.
It is.As someone who also games on PC and has since 1993 the grass is not greener.
Read it again. It says they both can hit 30 fps as their goal and more is gravy.
The "clarification" means both versions are 1080p/30fps minimum, which is true. The executive producer outright said PS4 is 60, meaning it's covered in gravy.
Read the last sentence. The PR quote says that both versions are 1080p/30fps minimum. There will be times where it is above that. EP of the game and those that have played it have said it's 60 on PS4."Both platforms offer the same outstanding Tomb Raider experience. Delivering the core Tomb Raider gameplay at native 1080p and running at 30fps was always our primary goal given the type of experience Tomb Raider is and the exploration we want players to do. Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy."
It seems pretty clear. 30fps for both...? Looks like everyone here owes an apology to the guy who said 30fps is better for story telling.
duckroll too I think.
"Both platforms offer the same outstanding Tomb Raider experience. Delivering the core Tomb Raider gameplay at native 1080p and running at 30fps was always our primary goal given the type of experience Tomb Raider is and the exploration we want players to do. Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy."
It seems pretty clear. 30fps for both...? Looks like everyone here owes an apology to the guy who said 30fps is better for story telling.
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It seems pretty clear. 30fps for both...? Looks like everyone here owes an apology to the guy who said 30fps is better for story telling.
Damn it, I meant obviously, damn you auto-correct!
50:30 and again around 59.
He's even giddy about saying it.
PS4 version $60
XBone version $30
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Damn it, who got him first.
Never played the game before, so getting on PS4. Hope its as good as you guys say it is. Don't let me down GAF.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
Okay, it's not updated in the OP, so what is the word on the IGN update from Square ? As it been discussed ? Debunked ? What's the final word ?
That one got me too.I laughed so hard at this. The wording--my sides!
People like to talk about technical aspects of games, I think you're the one that's just going to have to get used to this.Are we going to have a thread every time a PS4 game runs at a higher FPS or Resolution? Because this is going to happen often, people should just get used to this and move on.
Ugh and you believe that?
They don't want to upset the Xbox gamers or Microsoft and say yeah the PS4 version is 60fps but we couldn't achieve that on Xbox One.
Not for kids. Too gory for sure.Never played the game before, so getting on PS4. Hope its as good as you guys say it is. Don't let me down GAF.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
Haven't been this entertained in ages, gawddamn.
And fuck the Juniors' guide, they can learn the hard way.
Never played the game before, so getting on PS4. Hope its as good as you guys say it is. Don't let me down GAF.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
Are we going to have a thread every time a PS4 game runs at a higher FPS or Resolution? Because this is going to happen often, people should just get used to this and move on.
This has got to be the craziest generation of consoles I've ever seen, and it's only three months in! Resolution: 720p V 1080p (You can't tell the difference), framerate: 30fps V 60fps (30fps is a more cinematic feel). It's quite telling that all of this fuzzy logic seems to favour ONE console.
"Both platforms offer the same outstanding Tomb Raider experience. Delivering the core Tomb Raider gameplay at native 1080p and running at 30fps was always our primary goal given the type of experience Tomb Raider is and the exploration we want players to do. Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy."
It seems pretty clear. 30fps for both...? Looks like everyone here owes an apology to the guy who said 30fps is better for story telling.
Never played the game before, so getting on PS4. Hope its as good as you guys say it is. Don't let me down GAF.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
people in red are mods
bish is basically the one who deals out the hard shit like bans(I forgot who else does too)
duckroll too I think.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
Wait... ElTorro has been posting gifs? Is there a compilation of the gif posts??? I must see it now!
Blood and vicious finishers everywhere. Lara goes from innocent scared girl to psycho-assassin within 2 hours.
Never played the game before, so getting on PS4. Hope its as good as you guys say it is. Don't let me down GAF.
By the way, can I play it with the kids around (10 year olds) or is this a "mature" Laura Croft adventure? (not that mature)
With the handful of 720p XO multiplat titles released like CoD:G and BF4, now that devs are figuring out how to get 1080p native out of the XO, technically wouldn't the gap be getting smaller?
Did you actually read the quote without bolding what was convenient?"Both platforms offer the same outstanding Tomb Raider experience. Delivering the core Tomb Raider gameplay at native 1080p and running at 30fps was always our primary goal given the type of experience Tomb Raider is and the exploration we want players to do. Anything beyond 30fps for this version is gravy."
It seems pretty clear. 30fps for both...? Looks like everyone here owes an apology to the guy who said 30fps is better for story telling.
30FPS will Always Deliver Better Story-Telling than 60FPS in Games Heres Why
All the peeps of the Gaming World have been going crazy over 30 FPS and 60 FPS standards this last year. From 60fps/1080p being thought the new Next Gen standard to Ryse downgrades. But there a point many people are missing, one which i hope to shed some light on today, the point that why 30 FPS cant and shouldnt ever be replaced with 60fps.
30fps vs 60fps The Magic of Story Telling Lies in Lower FPS, 30 FPS will always deliver a more Cinematic Experience than 60FPS.
I am of course making quite a bold claim and the burden of proof lies with me. One which i am more than willing to shoulder. Let me begin by saying that the minimum limit that our brain needs to perceive moving frames as a seamless entity ( a video) is 24 Frames Per Second. This is one of the reason 99% of Movies are shot at 24 FPS. Though this was originally due to Sound Hardware limitation of Old Cinema, it has now become the Cinematic Standard. The 24 fps of the Cinema Industry is roughly equivalent to the 30 fps standard of the Gaming Industry. When you see a video shot at 24 fps / 30 fps there are holes to fill and your brain automatically does this by literally creating stuff out of your imagination : also known as movie magic. The More frames you increase, the less you brain fills in, the less the magic.
Proof of Concept: Hobbit 24 FPS vs 48 FPS analogy to the 30FPS vs 60FPS Gaming Standard
So, Notice how the 48FPS video looks, Sped Up, Weird and almost too Real (in a Bad Way) ? That is called the Soap Opera Effect. Because we grew up in a world where reality tv and soap operas were shot at a higher FPS our brains are now hard wired to associate mundane reality with Higher FPS. And i think you can see now what i meant by our brain filling in the gaps at lower FPS. The Original trailer looks magical and truly Cinematic. Of course you might be one of the minority who actually like the sped up, but in my opinion that is probably because of the Novelty Value.
30fps vs 60fps
The more Frames Per Second we increase in our Gaming Standards the less Magical they will feel.
I remember when playing Alan Wake (at 30fps) that it felt unbelievably like a movie to me, the sudden attacks of darkness and the way everything was moving about, i wonder if the magic would have been there with 60FPS. If i could clearly see how everything moved probably not. Likewise in Cinema the Smokes and Mirrors fall away with increased fps and story telling is all about the illusion. Of course some games would actually benefit from higher frames per second like Racing Games and Fighting Games (Tekken) but Games in which story telling is a main part would do better with the 30FPS Standard.
http://wccftech.com/30fps-vs-60fps-30fps-better-story-telling-games/
can you people finally drop this "60fps is better" nonsense