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Tomb Raider |OT| Lara's Misfortune
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I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Bioshock Infinite is gonna be so bad lol.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah I'm not optimistic. I hated the combat in both BioShock and BioShock 2, so I'm not expecting much from Infinite.
SlasherJPC
Banned
LOL I knew that would get noticed
Yeah I highly enjoyed it and while I have some gripes, I feel the biggest complaints will be by the people that can't look past what the game has changed too versus what is actually here.
I'm looking forward to it quite a bit and will buy it at launch, but the delays worry me.
Holy shit you're hilarious! Nice review!
It can't be worse than bioshock 1. It's impossible, that game lowered my standards and expectations for a Levine game so much that I'm not going into this hoping for a modern SS2 this time.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Excellent review my friend. The atmosphere is indeed amazing. Like Ive said before, its right up there with RE4 and Metroid Prime.
what in the actual fuck
ViewtifulJC
Banned
That's funny, cuz I was thinking the same thing. Either it's one of the best games of the year, or it's just kinda average-to-mediocre. I don't think there's a chance of it being Alies CM status of fuckin' disaster zone. The writing was on the wall for that game for months, from the bad previews to the rough videos.
it never became ok. Every time I see it, my eyes roll just a little harder than the last time.
40 pages ago, I think. I believe there are at least five separate people (maybe a few more) who have made direct comparisons between Tomb Raider and Resident Evil 4 in this thread alone, and it's not even street date.
I completely agree.
Please name me one game released in the last 5 years that you liked, enjoyed, LOVED. PLEASE. I must know.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
something something Obsidian something something non-linear pc game something still kinda bad though
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I actually thought BioShock was a pretty terrible game. The combat was so unfun and the story dragged so much that I couldn't be bothered to finish it.
It's not exactly a shocking opinion for anyone who played SS2. Bioshock was a massively consolized game to sell as much as possible on consoles. They even admit as much on their postmortem. They were making Bioshock to be a lot like SS2 but decided it wasn't streamlined or marketable enough so they dumbed down most of the gameplay they had to make it more like a FPS.
I offically think you are trolling us. Bioschock was amazing.
I keep glossing over the RE4 comparisons.
It doesn't make sense to me- RE4 felt revolutionary in a ton of ways. The game featured the over the shoulder mechanic for the first time (for me at least)- which later seemed to evolve in the majority of TPS games.
Does the comparison stand because it is a reboot of a franchise that attempts to do something radically different? I think the lasting effects of RE4 set the stage for this generation. Isn't this Tomb Raider a collection of most of the modern game mechanics we've seen in other titles ? It can be a wonderful adventure game with the inclusion of these systems, but does it redefine/introduce something new? It doesn't have to be revolutionary, but can we consider it akin to RE4?
I'm not getting it.
It doesn't make sense to me- RE4 felt revolutionary in a ton of ways. The game featured the over the shoulder mechanic for the first time (for me at least)- which later seemed to evolve in the majority of TPS games.
Does the comparison stand because it is a reboot of a franchise that attempts to do something radically different? I think the lasting effects of RE4 set the stage for this generation. Isn't this Tomb Raider a collection of most of the modern game mechanics we've seen in other titles ? It can be a wonderful adventure game with the inclusion of these systems, but does it redefine/introduce something new? It doesn't have to be revolutionary, but can we consider it akin to RE4?
I'm not getting it.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Because Resident Evil 4 had unbelievable atmosphere due to its setting and amount of detail - and so does Tomb Raider. What's the problem?
I place Resident Evil 4 on the highest pedestal when it comes to its atmosphere and mood, and now Tomb Raider sits right alongside it for me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
That's the back of the box quote for Spec Ops: The Line: Antitrop GOTY Edition - "I enjoyed this video game" - Derrick01, resident hater of 99% of video games released in the past 5 years
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Tricky is slowly creeping into less subjective statements which are objectively, demonstrably false.
It's not gonna be by me though. I just like to smile and nod and hope he never finds my address.
It's not gonna be by me though. I just like to smile and nod and hope he never finds my address.
I'm not sure what to make of you as a poster.
You seem predictably cynical, yet can still surprise with your preferences.
Ah- so that's the comparison. The atmosphere in the game.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Bioshock is pretty shit, not exactly a new or original opinion.
Thats how im looking at it. To lower my standards of competition, it has to compete against Minervas Den for me. Can it outdo Minervas Den.
Is there any multiplayer impressions for Tomb Raider out there besides some questionable videos?
I shouldn't have mentioned it! It's derailing this thread! There are some major misgivings with the game, but I loved Rapture.
Another discussion I figure!
MTMB is rubbing off on you
gonna throw up
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Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Because I said that I think Tomb Raider has atmosphere right up there with Resident Evil 4? Okay?
For me, BioShock's triumphs outweigh its flaws. It is a good game, just barely short of a great game.
It has some of the best first 30 minutes of any game I've ever played. It drags in the middle and the end.
A great game conceptually, thematically, and narratively, but sometimes you do actually have to play it. Could have been a lot more fun to play, I guess.
It has some of the best first 30 minutes of any game I've ever played. It drags in the middle and the end.
A great game conceptually, thematically, and narratively, but sometimes you do actually have to play it. Could have been a lot more fun to play, I guess.
In the Castlevania OT he mentioned that he loved the first Lords of Shadow. So there is that.
brandonh83
Banned
yeah I hate Bioshock too
in fact, I hate everything! especially fun!
in fact, I hate everything! especially fun!
XANDER CAGE
Member
Comparing Tomb Raider to Resident Evil 4, as I've mentioned before, is foolish. I'm not even saying this to knock Tomb Raider, I'm saying it because it is demonstrably false. Resident Evil 4 is 1. not a reboot 2. took an existing franchise and practically invented a whole new genre. Tomb Raider re-imagines an existing canon and places it into a well-worn, time-tested style of gameplay. It takes virtually no risks whatsoever.
Picking one nebulous aspect of the game ("atmosphere") to compare Tomb Raider to RE4 is disingenuous because it ignores every other important piece of context for both games, and honestly does both games a disservice.
Picking one nebulous aspect of the game ("atmosphere") to compare Tomb Raider to RE4 is disingenuous because it ignores every other important piece of context for both games, and honestly does both games a disservice.
Witcher 2 was a good game despite its many flaws.
Krappadizzle
Member
That was awesome.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I think BioShock would have been much better if they dialed down the combat significantly. I might have been interested enough to get through the game if I didn't have to put up with the shit combat and annoying enemies.
Krappadizzle
Member
I have all the TR's from a steam sale. Thinking I can probably play through one before tomorrow, don't know which one to start. Everyone seems to juggle between Anniversary and Underworld. Thoughts anyone?
Had you played it before?
If not, it's a real treat. It feels slower, and much more methodical in its structure- compared to Legend and Underworld. It's a great collection of some of the best TR levels and encounters.
I'd say play Anniversary, Legend and save Underworld for last.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Because I said that I think Tomb Raider has atmosphere right up there with Resident Evil 4? Okay?
I was thinking more about this being the best looking 360 game.
I vastly preferred watching the lady of the house play Bioshock 1 than playing it myself.
I bought her SS2 for her birthday so she can judge for herself.
She actually thinks BI looks like shit and she'll be the one watching this time.
brandonh83
Banned
So I think I'm going to get this based on the impressions and the atmosphere of the island. I hope I'm not disappointed after the comparisons to RE4 or Lost.
No never played a tomb raider game before and thanks for the advice, thats the order I'll play them in.
GenoZStriker
Neo Member
They all more or less play the same. The timeline goes Anniversary > Legend > Underworld. Legend has a bit more combat than the rest.
Square Triangle
Member
Are there animals thst play a role in the combat like the previous entries? I will never forget the T-Rex!
GenoZStriker
Neo Member
I saw wolves in trailers.