BruiserBear
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To be fair, it's still enough for anyone to decide on a purchase. This is how it plays, and this is how it looks. Do you want more or not?
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To be fair, it's still enough for anyone to decide on a purchase. This is how it plays, and this is how it looks. Do you want more or not?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Except that isn't the case at all. A silly complaint anyway, really, the original games always had a very grimey look to them. Levels that were dingy looking in the other games look the same here, others that were bright and colourful are the same here.
I wonder if the game didn't have the UE logo at the start whether the reviewer would even make this comment...
I feel like a total sucker. Frame rate sucks, physics are bizarre. Every bit of life has been sucked from the environments. Robomodo trying to do Tony Hawk is me trying to draw the Mona Lisa. You can show me the artwork and explain it to me. But I'm never going to be able to draw it. The final bullet to the head for any interest I'll have for anything with Tony Hawk's name on it.
Neuromancer
Member
They don't even let you finish a single session which is 5 minutes. Ridiculous.
Well you're right, I decided no I don't want more if they're going to be pricks about it.
A chance for redemption ad they blew it..
beanman25
Member
You just reminded me I have the adapter to use my Ps3 controller on my 360.
YES! Now I need 400 points and I'm golden!
EYEL1NER
Member
Who, Destructoid or Robomodo?
Haha a 4.5 out of 10?
I usually don't complain about scores but that is ridiculous. That's "broken game" territory and the game is no where near that.
The game plays well as you move along and add stats to your player. It's as addictive as the previous Tony Hawk games imo... at least in terms of single player.
I also love how he says that the game is dark and gritty as if the very first THPS was such a colorful bright game lol.
Seems that a lot of the complaints are coming from people who remember the first THPS games as being better than they actually were.
I also think that many are rememebering the original game after they beat it when they had a player with max stats which therefore made them think that the game was smooth by default and that THPS HD is sluggish (when it really isn't... You just have to get stats to build up your character more).
I don't know... I enjoyed the old THPS games and I really enjoyed playing THPS HD (played for about a hour). Looking forward to playing some more later on.
Yeah, I've had the same experience.
Half of the damn scale is for "broken games"? You're why scores are so inflated.
Press left/right at the level select screen to switch between SP modes.
Just dug out my copy of TH Project 8 and as bad as that game was, it still feels much better, more responsive than this HD version. I don't often say this, but I wish I could get a refund on this game.
was so hyped for it too. Suffice to say I'll never buy anything else Robomodo makes.Stephen Stills
Member
No. It's below average territory.
lol Really?
So me simply stating how most games don't get below a five out of ten from gaming sites means that I'm the reason why scores are so inflated?
How does that make any sense?
I know this topic gets recycled far too often, but if the public's general understanding is that game scores are interpreted similarly to grades (and that is the public's general understanding, whether anyone likes it or not), then yes, 4.5 is "F" territory and should not be given unless enormous failings are present within the game.
Going back on topic, the demo felt solid to me and I had tons of fun with the included level. I'm going to hold out on purchasing until Sony announces the PSN Plus offerings for next month. It's probably nothing more than wishful thinking, but I see this as an ideal PSN Plus freebie since people who get it for free will probably be more inclined to pay for DLC.
I have no intent of buying this now, but tried out the trial... and after it ended... I tried it again. And again. Probably played it for 20 min this way, lol. The game loads fairly fast, and you can explore the whole level front side and hack, just by jumping right back in.
Anywho, this game doesn't even have character customization? Man, that was part of the main reason why I played 2 on DC so much.
It felt pretty easy for me to get back into. After 1 or 2 runs, getting and using air felt natural. A few more, and I was pulling off specials... I did see some stupid "Tony launches into space, while bailing on the tip of the taxi" stuff going on, but otherwise, I found it easy to get into.
So less than a 5 isn't considered "trash" on many major gaming sites these days?
THPS2 at least has Create a Skater. One of the big deals of 2X was being able to make female skaters.
I can't say for THPS1, I haven't played it in years, but I know it lacks Create-a-Park. Wikipedia, however, is telling me that both modes were introduced in THPS2.
Their explanation is irrelevant if it's not actually followed. See, the average score handed out by Destructoid is a 71. Hence, regardless of what they see, "average" on Destructoid means 70-ish, so a 4.5 isn't just "sub-par", but far, far below average.
This game is also missing splitscreen, which personally makes it worthless to me.
Ouch. I didn't know that they were rebuilding the game from the ground up. I would have preferred a straight up-rezzed repackaging with a smooth framerate, improved character models and environments and some online leaderboards. You don't fuck with a classic formula like that. Bummer.
plagiarize
Banned
no.
no.
no.
the two 'averages' are not the same thing. the average score destructoid give out is meaningless unless they review every single game, or at the very least, a randomly selected cross section of games.
they do not do either of those, as most review places do not. shovelware titles are real, and shit, and considered when we talk about the 'average' quality of a game. most review sites as we expect focus on the bigger titles, and these bigger titles are quite logically going to be above average quality.
that destructoid have an average of 70 ish tells us more about the kind of games they review, and it doesn't contradict their review scale at all.
But the first THPS was pretty sluggish when you started off and the game was also pretty dark/dull looking as well.
Still don't get some of the complaints to be honest. Seems like a case of nostalgia when it comes to some of the complaints.
this is valid - once i get a bunch of points in my characters, it'll get a lot better.
This argument might hold water on iOS or Android (and perhaps the Wii), but on the Xbox 360 or PS3? Hardly. There is no doubt that shovelware exists, but it does not make up the lions share of games on these major consoles. Rather, titles by major publishers make up the bulk of gams on those systems, and yes, the bulk of these are reviewed by these major sites. Even if shovelware games were routinely reviewed by major sites, I doubt they'd be numerous enough to decrease the average score on any major gaming site to a 5. For better or worse, the average game on major sites scores about 7, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that.
BruiserBear
Banned
You're wasting your time. At this point people are posting just to pile on. Even people who claim to have no interest in the game due to no spliscreen are back in the thread today.
Second game improved a lot on that. 2x for the xbox seems like a better game than this.
I was interested until I heard that. Surprised by it really. I've burned through these levels so going back single player probably wouldn't do much for me, but playing against a friend on the same couch would have been worth $15.
jeez can't a guy have an opinion
Garcia el Gringo
Member
Damn, I don't like the way this controls at all from just playing the trial. I've always played the Tony Hawk games on PS1, PS2, PSP and DS using the D-pad exclusively. So is the trouble I'm having with the game just the 360 controller or is the game's controls just poorly designed?
Robomodo just got the controls wrong.
BruiserBear
Banned
Absolutely. I was just letting Bgamer know that there is no point in arguing with people who've already decided the sky is falling, the game is broken, and it looks like Gears of War.
It wasn't sluggish like this, and the first THPS came out over ten years ago. Also, you're still ignoring the fact that THPS2/3/4 weren't sluggish at all when you started out.
There's really no excuse for it, nor for the framerate.
Yes, let's go into fallacy territory because both users and critics alike had the same complaints. *rolls eyes*
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Game is really start to click with me now I've almost maxed my stats. Gonna be a while till I get back to my best, though.
Only two complaints I have with the game at the moment:
1) Wall riding is a pain in the arse. Fix this shit.
2) Ragdolls are a bit heavy handed. I used to like banging in to walls to finish a grind, can't do that any more (within reason) when I have my speed increased.
Only two complaints I have with the game at the moment:
1) Wall riding is a pain in the arse. Fix this shit.
2) Ragdolls are a bit heavy handed. I used to like banging in to walls to finish a grind, can't do that any more (within reason) when I have my speed increased.
Chip N Chance
Member
"BIG DROP"
I really am starting to hate that...
I really am starting to hate that...
plagiarize
Banned
it doesn't need to make up the lionshare to significantly effect the average, espescially when the titles that *aren't* being reviewed are of noticeably poorer quality than the ones that are, as is the case here.
it's not wishful thinking of me to point out that you are incorrect to think that you can look at the average score Destructoid assign the games they bother to review and presume it has any bearing on what they claim makes for an average game when looking at every game released.
i never said that if they reviewed every game that it would average a 5. i told you, correctly, that the average score that they assign does not contradict their review scale. their review scale may or may not be off, but the statistic you provided has absolutely no bearing on that.
7 is an average for the games Destructiod review. 5 can still be average for all the games, whether they review them or not. these are not equivalent averages that you can compare against the other.
Hold A while falling.
Ah yeah, this is coming for PC isn't it? Guess I'm totally waiting for that version, as I already have THPS2 twice (Xbox and Dreamcast.)