Francias Castiglione
Banned
SpokkX said:
Those 4 areas change layout and enemy pattern quite a bit on each playthrough apparently.
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Too Human Official Thread of Hack-n-Loot
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Those 4 areas change layout and enemy pattern quite a bit on each playthrough apparently.
If you looked at this Hack N Slash style loot collecting game, especially if you only have a 360, then your options are really slim anyway. I love this style of game and I will be buying Too Human.
Most reviews I don't care about and if I want to buy a game, then I will buy it. Could Too Human be better? Of course it could and I hope that SK really look at these things when they look at the sequels to this game.
It really boils down to "If you like this type of game, then you will overlook some of the issues other people have raised and just enjoy the game for what it is." Personally I would still have loved to run around with 3 of my friends in Too Human.
I wonder how much GAF will explode when the sales appear for Too Human launch? :lol
Most reviews I don't care about and if I want to buy a game, then I will buy it. Could Too Human be better? Of course it could and I hope that SK really look at these things when they look at the sequels to this game.
It really boils down to "If you like this type of game, then you will overlook some of the issues other people have raised and just enjoy the game for what it is." Personally I would still have loved to run around with 3 of my friends in Too Human.
I wonder how much GAF will explode when the sales appear for Too Human launch? :lol
It'll be interesting to play through this the first time. From some of the reviews, it kind of seems like TH straddles the line between MMO and dungeon crawler in that you kind of need to find out on your own what some enemies are susceptible to and not. Does the Prima guide have detailed descriptions of mob types/effects?
I'm not sure how familiar a non-MMO player is with strategies such as crowd control and target priority. From experience, I just know that if I have the ability to root enemies, I'm probably going to root the tanks and then take out the casters/ranged guys first. It was quite obvious the reviewer had no clue about that and thought he could brute force his way through situations which is not always a good idea.
I hope that like it or not, a lot of us return to this thread and give our opinions of our play experience. I'd really like to see if there's a divide in opinion between people who were/are hardcore MMORPG players and those who are not.
I'm not sure how familiar a non-MMO player is with strategies such as crowd control and target priority. From experience, I just know that if I have the ability to root enemies, I'm probably going to root the tanks and then take out the casters/ranged guys first. It was quite obvious the reviewer had no clue about that and thought he could brute force his way through situations which is not always a good idea.
I hope that like it or not, a lot of us return to this thread and give our opinions of our play experience. I'd really like to see if there's a divide in opinion between people who were/are hardcore MMORPG players and those who are not.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Jtyettis said:
Not a chance.
I love MMO games and I pretty much play most of the beta's that appear. I am also a huge fan of loot collecting but also to social aspect of these games. It is not just about the gear, it is about the chance to play with like-minded friends and collect loot. :lol
Too Human has 5 classes that do play differently and have different abilities. Look at the spiders for instance. Add to this the huge amount of gear possibilities and also the great potential for expansive DLC. The downside is that despite all of this, 2 players just does not bring across the need to have multiple classes playing their roll to accomplish something.
As an example is the Defender class, who is the Tank class for Too Human. You have damage reduction skills, the ability to taunt the enemy, Spider that puts shields around you, freeze the enemy, all of this is classic MMO Tank abilities but they almost seem wasted by having 1 other person to use them on. Why give you all of these MMO style toys and then limit how many friends you can share it with?
I know SK said that 4 player would be far too hectic but let the gamers decide if it is too hectic. There is no story or cut-scenes, so it is really that difficult to add 2 more players? Just do it as an update for the Too Human fans.
Too Human has 5 classes that do play differently and have different abilities. Look at the spiders for instance. Add to this the huge amount of gear possibilities and also the great potential for expansive DLC. The downside is that despite all of this, 2 players just does not bring across the need to have multiple classes playing their roll to accomplish something.
As an example is the Defender class, who is the Tank class for Too Human. You have damage reduction skills, the ability to taunt the enemy, Spider that puts shields around you, freeze the enemy, all of this is classic MMO Tank abilities but they almost seem wasted by having 1 other person to use them on. Why give you all of these MMO style toys and then limit how many friends you can share it with?
I know SK said that 4 player would be far too hectic but let the gamers decide if it is too hectic. There is no story or cut-scenes, so it is really that difficult to add 2 more players? Just do it as an update for the Too Human fans.
Raide said:I love MMO games and I pretty much play most of the beta's that appear. I am also a huge fan of loot collecting but also to social aspect of these games. It is not just about the gear, it is about the chance to play with like-minded friends and collect loot. :lol
Too Human has 5 classes that do play differently and have different abilities. Look at the spiders for instance. Add to this the huge amount of gear possibilities and also the great potential for expansive DLC. The downside is that despite all of this, 2 players just does not bring across the need to have multiple classes playing their roll to accomplish something.
As an example is the Defender class, who is the Tank class for Too Human. You have damage reduction skills, the ability to taunt the enemy, Spider that puts shields around you, freeze the enemy, all of this is classic MMO Tank abilities but they almost seem wasted by having 1 other person to use them on. Why give you all of these MMO style toys and then limit how many friends you can share it with?
I know SK said that 4 player would be far too hectic but let the gamers decide if it is too hectic. There is no story or cut-scenes, so it is really that difficult to add 2 more players? Just do it as an update for the Too Human fans.
I agree wholeheartedly. The 2 player vs. 4 player experience is a world of difference.
Raide said:I love MMO games and I pretty much play most of the beta's that appear. I am also a huge fan of loot collecting but also to social aspect of these games. It is not just about the gear, it is about the chance to play with like-minded friends and collect loot. :lol
Too Human has 5 classes that do play differently and have different abilities. Look at the spiders for instance. Add to this the huge amount of gear possibilities and also the great potential for expansive DLC. The downside is that despite all of this, 2 players just does not bring across the need to have multiple classes playing their roll to accomplish something.
As an example is the Defender class, who is the Tank class for Too Human. You have damage reduction skills, the ability to taunt the enemy, Spider that puts shields around you, freeze the enemy, all of this is classic MMO Tank abilities but they almost seem wasted by having 1 other person to use them on. Why give you all of these MMO style toys and then limit how many friends you can share it with?
I know SK said that 4 player would be far too hectic but let the gamers decide if it is too hectic. There is no story or cut-scenes, so it is really that difficult to add 2 more players? Just do it as an update for the Too Human fans.
I agree, just put a update out there and just say hey we will let the fans decide if it is a needed feature or not.
â Narayan
Member
I haven't even gotten my shipment confirmation email.
WHY?
I WANT THIS GAME NOW!
WHY?
I WANT THIS GAME NOW!
Nemesis_
Member
I really wanna buy this game because I thought the demo was decent / bearable, and would be much fun with friends. However, I loved the environments and the character design too (besides Baldur himself). Though, with eveyr shit game I purchase (Haze is another) I always regret it as th price drops to something amazingly cheap after.
The same WILL happen to Too Human and that's when I'll pick it up. A shame too, this project was something I've been following since the PSOne days.
The same WILL happen to Too Human and that's when I'll pick it up. A shame too, this project was something I've been following since the PSOne days.
Union Carbine
Member
80% sure I'll have it.Jtyettis said:
Lonesome_Raod
Member
I agree on letting players decide if 4 players is too much. The game would have a lot more appeal if I could party with 3 friends instead of just one.
Wizman23 said:
Blueprints are items which cost money (aka bounty) to forge. They tend to be the better items, but you may need to budget in order to craft the ones that will be the most helpful to you.
Runes are items which you can slot into armour, weapons, or charms to add bonuses. The idea is to customize your items to better suit your character build.
Charms are items with associated mini-quests (like killing 100 enemies, or finding some secret areas) once you've met this goal, you can then slot the charm with some number (about 5 or 6 judging from the demo) of runes in order to activate it. This activates whatever special ability the charm provides, which is detailed in its description.
Now for my question:
How are we supposed to know what all the special abilities do? Strength? Annulment? Soothing? I would guess that strength increases damage in some way, but I have no idea about the others.
wayward archer
Member
Wizman23 said:
Charms are basically like jewelry in other games. You can have up to 2 equipped and they have to be 'activated' by doing the quest which is listed in the charm's stats. Something like "Kill 200 enemies" or "activate 4 wells".
Runes are like gems in diablo. You'll find weapons that have slots for them and you can basically add stats to weapons. Like +5% strength or +100 armor or stuff like that.
Blueprints are weapons and armor you can buy using those Aesir Logo credits you pick up from monsters and the breakable stuff. You can buy them at any time and they instantly appear in your inventory.
Jack Random
Member
it's the 19th, has this thread graduated to, "I GOT IT! Announcement" status yet?
I posted this in the review thread but I suppose I could post it here as well:
Here is a pretty extensive list I saw posted over at TH.net:
(Credit to TWODOGSz)
Here's a summary of all scores (out of ten) so far with all sources linked where possible.
Ars Technica: BUY
Strategy Informer = 8.5/10
IGN: 7.8 (video review)
IGN UK: 7.5
Gameplayer: 7.0
NZ Gamer: 7.5
GameInformer: 6.75 & 7.0
Games Magazine (Greece): 9.3
Neo+ Magazine (Poland): 8.6
Maxim (Russia): 10
Playboy Magazine: 6.25
TheHDRoom: 7.9
GiantBomb: 6.0
GamePro: 8.0
Gamespy: 5.0
PlayTM: 8.8
Gamespot/Cnet: 5.5
PlantetXbox360: 8.7
TeamXbox: 6.5
1up: C- = Average (42 Metacritic, 60 GameRankings)
GCHD: 8.0
Eurogamer 6.0
Eurogamer.de: 7.0
WorthPlaying: 6.0
VideoGamer: 7.0
MSXboxWorld: 7.5
Wonderwallweb: 7.0
GamingRing: 6.0
OXM: 7.0
Pocket-lint: 7.0
TVG: 8.0
PCWorld: NA
TheGuardian: NA
CTV: NA
Here is a pretty extensive list I saw posted over at TH.net:
(Credit to TWODOGSz)
Here's a summary of all scores (out of ten) so far with all sources linked where possible.
Ars Technica: BUY
Strategy Informer = 8.5/10
IGN: 7.8 (video review)
IGN UK: 7.5
Gameplayer: 7.0
NZ Gamer: 7.5
GameInformer: 6.75 & 7.0
Games Magazine (Greece): 9.3
Neo+ Magazine (Poland): 8.6
Maxim (Russia): 10
Playboy Magazine: 6.25
TheHDRoom: 7.9
GiantBomb: 6.0
GamePro: 8.0
Gamespy: 5.0
PlayTM: 8.8
Gamespot/Cnet: 5.5
PlantetXbox360: 8.7
TeamXbox: 6.5
1up: C- = Average (42 Metacritic, 60 GameRankings)
GCHD: 8.0
Eurogamer 6.0
Eurogamer.de: 7.0
WorthPlaying: 6.0
VideoGamer: 7.0
MSXboxWorld: 7.5
Wonderwallweb: 7.0
GamingRing: 6.0
OXM: 7.0
Pocket-lint: 7.0
TVG: 8.0
PCWorld: NA
TheGuardian: NA
CTV: NA
GotchaForce
Member
Can you take your single player character online? Or is your multiplayer character different?
wayward archer
Member
SPEA said:
This, but you can have multiple characters. So technically you could have one character for playing single player and another that you only take online, but either character could be used for both.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Well don't expect Dennis to respond to anymore posts in here. They banned his ass.
Way to go aye?
I swear the world is going to shit.
Anyways... anyone get their copy today?
Way to go aye?
I swear the world is going to shit.
Anyways... anyone get their copy today?
SlasherJPC
Banned
fin said:
Yah same here. Tomorrow... should be today.
Jack Random
Member
Looked around at the local stores, noone has it yet in NYC that i can see
TheHeretic
Banned
slasher_thrasher21 said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Union Carbine
Member
I know a place should be getting it in imminently.Jack Random said:
SlasherJPC
Banned
Mifune said:
Well were not here to talk about the ban but all I know is he was a developer of the game and was being very nice and helping out people with questions.
Just irked that all this childish banter between Dennis/mods/user is way outta hand on every level and no one is in the right imo.
Anyways... sorry to see him go when it comes to this thread. He was helping out in here at least. Now we have to help each other out.
CartridgeBlower
Member
The reason he was banned is because he condemns this forum every chance he gets, but then uses it for his own personal gain by posting in it and trying to get people to buy his game.
Don't be a sucker.
If you like the game, great. I'm going to check it out. But I'm glad to see his hypocritical ass banned. Finally.
Don't be a sucker.
If you like the game, great. I'm going to check it out. But I'm glad to see his hypocritical ass banned. Finally.
SlasherJPC
Banned
CartridgeBlower said:
Please we don't need you calling people suckers simply for wanting to buy his game.
Anyone getting heavy into this drama thats being caused is the "sucker".
He was answering questions to his game. Thats more then most developers do. Thats all I'm getting it.
Smokey said:
I think the whole thing is twisted... but really this isn't a thread to start talking about this. Lets stay back on topic of the game.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I don't think that has ever been confirmed. Not sure. Anyone... anyone?