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Toonami |Jan14| See you, Space Cowboy. Hello, Space Dandy
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BassForever
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Looks like I'll watch Eureka 7 once I finish Naruto part 1 canon
If Japan want's to make money, just animate the life of Ronda Rousey armbarring every woman that comes to challenge her.
BassForever
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Kakashi mask episode was pretty funny, though I feel it should have happened after the land of waves arc not when it did. Goofy Sasuke doesn't really fit with that's been happening to his character.
I remember thinking this when I was watching the series way back.
ThatObviousUser
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Vic recorded a version that was way way better but the powers that be thought it would confuse viewers (why is Tamaki singing?) :<
BassForever
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But doesn't the next filler arc have super serious sause again? I understand your point but at this point in the series Sasuke is drowning in his desire for revenge that it clouds his judgement
Haha, 2nd season just started, looking forward to seeing it. Kind of surprised for a series that's pretty much "DIRTY JOKES: THE ANIME", there's flat-out no fanservice especially when the focus is on 3 girls.
....also, the Engrish scene is great. I don't know why, but I can't help but laugh when Japanese people swear in English.
BassForever
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Gucci Messiah
Banned
Ratings predictions, anyone?
Space Dandy - 1.4M
Bleach - 1.2M
Shippuden - 1M
One Piece - 915K
Soul Eater - 850K
SAO - 800K
FLCL - 725K
Naruto - 800K
Brotherhood - 650K
GitS - 525K
IGPX - 500K
Star Wars - 550K
Inuyasha - 650K
Space Dandy - 1.4M
Bleach - 1.2M
Shippuden - 1M
One Piece - 915K
Soul Eater - 850K
SAO - 800K
FLCL - 725K
Naruto - 800K
Brotherhood - 650K
GitS - 525K
IGPX - 500K
Star Wars - 550K
Inuyasha - 650K
Sextuple million believe
BassForever
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I want to say >1.5mil for dandy, I imagine it was a far larger turn out considering it was a world premier and its after the holidays while most people were/are still on break
foxuzamaki
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seitokai yakunidomo for toonami plz
(along similar,lines)highly deceptive
I love fights that look like (cinematic) fights, instead of the usual budget-saving shit we normally get
Is this a new show?
BassForever
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Highly doubt it didn't op draw more then bleach it's opening weekend?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
It's possible Shippuden outdraws Bleach, when Naruto 'debuted' a year ago, it didn't rate better than Bleach the first week, but Naruto did outdraw Bleach 4 times in the first 6 weeks.
If someone asks a question but omits the '?' then I will always assume it's non-serious.
If someone asks a question but omits the '?' then I will always assume it's non-serious.
Schadenfreude
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Wait lazybones, why did you get ahead in One Piece? This is not the anime thread, guys. We watch all shows at the same time. Why are you doing this to us? Have you broken your bond with the thread?
Gucci Messiah
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Eh, I was generous giving Dandy a 1.4, I highly doubt it will crack 1.5; that's a ton of people.
Possible in the future but highly doubtful this week with all the hype and marketing surrounding Dandy.
It could very well happen and I wouldn't be surprised if Bleach has better ratings in the long run.
Nah, though the 2nd season just started. The previous season & OVA episodes have been out for about a year or so now.
Schadenfreude
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Break the bonds....of their spinal cords, Seda. Use that attack! /ShonenAlsoThreadMeme
He isn't our nakama. A word so powerful it cannot be translated!
Schadenfreude
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But he is our friend!!! Aa!
Gucci Messiah
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Eh, I personally don't care about people posting impressions of non-toonami shows, as long as it's spoiler tagged. If people in here want to discuss other anime, why discourage that? I feel like we are more than just a toonami themed thread; this is a really tight-knit community that genuinely enjoys hanging out together, the explosion in weekday activity is proof of that.
Discussion of future content in shows currently airing is a different matter. I don't mind the occasional "next episode is going to blow your mind" stuff but detailed analysis is probably best left to other threads.
I really try to take conversations in interesting directions, but often times, it feels like...
(TT_TT) *returns to corner*
Gucci Messiah
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I enjoy your insight, SAB
SousedLouse
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I think that everything you've listed is a factor, but I actually agree with Zonic. I think that western animation has plenty of what the kids call 'fanservice' nowadays - it just gets a pass because its always played off for laughs. That sort of stuff has been in cartoons since the beginning - before 24 hour cartoon networks, before the schism between children's animation and adult animation, before the underground movement, before the Hayes Code - and the one constant in almost all of these things is that it's usually compartmentalized as part of a joke. The characters are still sexualized - mostly women, I'll admit that I haven't seen the western equivalent of Free! in any way, shape or form yet - hips still sway and sashay, fat deposits still bounce with little reason, and while the camera might not zoom in close enough to see the individual keratinocytes on the characters' skin, there's still a fair bit of focus on whatever physical aesthetics the storyboarder's into.
Furthermore, while I'll admit that it's toned down, I'd say that it's only toned down a little bit - a scooch, if you will - and strictly for the sake of the jokes that accompany them. Objectively, the jokey nature of western cheesecake is the only thing that separates stuff like Red Hot Riding Hood (or the nameless scores of generic showgirls in sitcom cartoons like The Flintstones or The Simpsons, or pretty much every va-va-voom character in most kids cartoons) from all but the most pervy of broadcast anime. It softens them, so the censors are happy, and the character designers and storyboarders can make up all sorts of goody sight gags as a red herring so that they can draw bombshells on the job. And even though the aforementioned cartoons would seem pretty tame now, people complained about that stuff the same way that they do about fanservice in anime now.
In fact, I'd argue that the only reason that fanservice is ebbing out from children's cartoons nowadays is because of the general shift to 3D animation - there's so much delegation in the newer animation styles that fanservice is too difficult to sneak in. Members of the staff seem to cope with this by burying the shows with huge amounts of references to other fictional works instead. Plus, nowadays animators draw cheesecake when they're off the clock instead, on various hosting sites like Tumblr and D-A and
Newgrounds, oh wow, I tried to type that out without the spoiler but I couldn't
Having said all that...I haven't seen Space Dandy yet. I had to deal with some heavy stuff Saturday night, and the mixed reactions have kind of scared me off from watching last week's episode, so I think I'll just wait until the next episode airs.
I really try to take conversations in interesting directions, but often times, it feels like...
(TT_TT) *returns to corner*
That's what happens when you use the old definition of fanservice - you get weird stares. The word is a synonym for 'cheesecake' now. 'Fanservice' has changed, and now that Plot and Backstory are under total control... 'fanservice' has become routine.
I thank ya! I think I'm fated to never master message board-fu; either I post too much, and a conversation dies, or too little, and the conversation turns into pointing out the things I considered, but avoided typing due to an attempt to be brief, lol.
A personal quirk that annoys me to no end! Which has nothing to do with Toonami, so I'll drop it at that!
SousedLouse
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I have the exact same problem! Looks like we were born under a bad sign. I'll follow suit by also dropping this topic!
It's great to look back at old cartoons and notice how deceptively sexy every female character ends up being, in one way or another. And most of them were of a decent age, and played off their sexuality in much more sneaky ways; through charming looks, over-animated tosses of hair, or a subtle pose flashed in the middle of any action or comedy scene.
I think at times, it's totally a reflection of the taste of the creators, and the audience. If your most fetching women of the day are elegant ladies, you'll draw that. If your hottest babes are known by the tight clothes, awkward candid photos that spread in celeb tabloids, and being celeberties that never did anything to make them famous, well, that's what we get.
But it's so out of touch to think that shows made by production staffs that have been workin' at anime forever, are simply looking at their works with definitions that are less than 10 years old.
Not that you can really BLAME anyone for thinking such a way, with the stupid amounts of needless, substance-less sexual fanservice that exist now-a-days. But I like to think works from big-name companies and artist approach even their themes from a multi-layered perspective, rather than playing everything by surface-level concepts and understanding.
I have the exact same problem! Looks like we were born under a bad sign. I'll follow suit by also dropping this topic!
XD Maybe someday, in the history of old message board post, these long forgotten words will be fondly remembered! Or not. The internet is weird.
Thanks Seda
I'll never be anywhere near the post count of the "Wall of Shame" posters, so sometimes I feel a bit apart from the thread, outside of DUMPS, so I end up feeling as if I need to catch up on opinions that would otherwise be posted as shows and stuff go on. Though I must admit, it's great being able to reflect on Toonami after the fact... feels much more like an event, rather than some throwaway TV programming block.Gucci Messiah
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Ratings haven't been released yet but we do have this:
I'm surprised Shippuden didn't rank #1 in its timeslot, my prediction of 1M is probably going to be wrong. We might be looking at 900K or so.
I'm surprised Shippuden didn't rank #1 in its timeslot, my prediction of 1M is probably going to be wrong. We might be looking at 900K or so.
It did. For men 18 to 24, although they call it Naruto.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Ah, my mistake! Looks like I can still hold out hope for a tri-million week.
Doctor Decimate
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edit: whoops beaten
Schadenfreude
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You're lame, Levyne. fite me irl.
Gucci Messiah
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Prepare to (most likely) be disappointed then
BassForever
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All sounds good so far, gotta see the numbers though
Imperial Bishop
Banned
seitokai yakunidomo for toonami plz
(along similar,lines)highly deceptive
I love fights that look like (cinematic) fights, instead of the usual budget-saving shit we normally get
I will now watch this beautiful thing.
Looking good. Tri-mil is pretty possible. I'm really hoping for a quad or penta-mil though. Yeah I'm aiming high but you never know.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
It's looking like there's a good chance One Piece and Soul Eater both beat Shippuden...can't wait to see how last week played out.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
It will happen, guys.
The legendary sextuple million. It exists.
The legendary sextuple million. It exists.
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