BassForever
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Outside of a better battery and slimmer the 2000 is basically the same correct? I don't play my portables on the go much anymore so it doesn't phase me.
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Outside of a better battery and slimmer the 2000 is basically the same correct? I don't play my portables on the go much anymore so it doesn't phase me.
1000 has the superior screen
chicagocubsfan
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Just rewatched Ballad of Fallen Angels from the Bebop bluray.
Still one of the best episodes of TV ever.
Still one of the best episodes of TV ever.
Judging by their posts, it seems the only people who've not actually seen Kill la Kill yet are:
- B.K.
- bigkrev
- Seda
- SAB CA
- BatDan
- Htown
- Mr. Patch
- pirata
- UltraGunner
- TheAbsolution
Why am I not on the first list
I demand you use your psychic powers more frequently for my convenience.
Oh, Bass, because I didn't get a chance to do it earlier:
I totally can't wait until I can get a Vita so I can receive this image.
...Sadly, I lack the extra money for one right now... but someday this year...
I haven't seen it yet.
Crash Station
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For those that don't know, KLK is kind of a spiritual successor to Gurren Lagann, so people enjoying that should at least give it a shot (no guarantees of course as many TTGL fans have proven).
Spiritual successor, but definitely its own thing, which a lot of people tend to forget about when they make the TTGL/KLK comparison.
BassForever
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Didn't they clean up things for the blu ray release which is what I assume Toonami would get?
It just worsre in even way.
Doctor Decimate
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I've only seen about two episodes
Don't be that guy. It is going to air in a couple weeks and we will all be able to discuss it in depth episode by episode. God knows we will have a whole heaping lot to talk about after episode 1 airs alone.
Just tried to setup new router that I got for Christmas. Complete failure, going to have to send it back in. Couldn't use the setup CD because it's a micro CD, which apparently my laptop doesn't even accept, and the instructions sent me to a website that didn't even work.
Ok, so I'll try setting it up using my roommate's laptop, which can run the CD. NOPE. Since I use a cable modem, I have to run the setup wizard on the original PC where the MAC address is located, which as we've already established, is not possible. So now I have a fucking brick.
Ok, so I'll try setting it up using my roommate's laptop, which can run the CD. NOPE. Since I use a cable modem, I have to run the setup wizard on the original PC where the MAC address is located, which as we've already established, is not possible. So now I have a fucking brick.
It's seriously hilarious where the show goes & how cheap it is with its animation & voice acting.Worst case scenario just check out Inferno Cop on Youtube. Best animated shorts in years
Also a random surprise cameo from
April 'O Neal.
If you don't let me fan service, your not gonna like it in kill LA kill.
Crash Station
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Oh absolutely.
Still, they have a near-identical presentation and share a lot of the same themes (even if I find Gurren Lagann's main message of progress more meaningful). Hell, episode 3 of KLK is SUPER reminiscent of episode 11 of TTGL to the point where people edited them to swap music.
But yes, spiritual whatever doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'd probably consider Diebuster a spiritual predecessor of Gurren Lagann more than KLK is a spiritual successor.
Well, Space Dandy had a bit I was okay with regarding Honey (episode 3, the one with Johnny, etc). It suited the character of Dandy and the comedic nature of the series. (but it also didn't overwhelm the rest of the show)
Whereas the random ass shots in SAO don't gel with and have nothing to do with anything.
Sweet! I look forward to your reactions. All the more reason for a spoiler warning.
Gotcha. Hope you enjoy it.
Here's the thing: This show is more than the sum of its fan service. I think it has a hard time with viewers who can't get past that.
What often goes unsaid is that, first and foremost, KLK is a comedy and a pretty damn funny one. It's not some serious shonen that simply panders (like SAO) because those shows try and pretend the fan service isn't there. Here, the show proudly embraces fan service as a direct part of the narrative. It's all very tongue-in-cheek. Yes, the show also has its more serious notes and is full of hot-blooded action but at its heart it's mostly a comedy that doesn't take itself that seriously.
So, it's far more like Space Dandy in that regard than SAO. In fact, one of the best things about it being on at 11:30 is that we'll get to start the block off with a comedy again.
I tend to avoid comparisons to Gurren Lagann mainly because Gurren had a huge budget and so the animation looks jaw dropping where as Kill la Kill is Trigger's first show and only had a small budget.
While I think KLK looks great and has Imaishi's awesome signature style, the lower budget means there's a lot of cut corners animation wise (lots of still frames, reuse of shots, etc.)
Yep, totally not for me then
I couldn't even watch more than a few episodes of Free! because it's just a fanservice show with males instead of females
I can't imagine anyone taking more than a single glance at Free! and not immediately knowing whether or not it was a show for them.Yep, totally not for me thenI couldn't even watch more than a few episodes of Free! because it's just a fanservice show with males instead of females
I think the bigger issues people had wasn't the comparison between animation budgets, but expectations on story vs. what KLK was and those did not match up. I think a lot of people hyped up the show well beyond anything it could ever attain and because of that some were let down.
Focusing more on the fact that KLK is its own thing and avoid any comparison to TTGL is probably the best.
Gurren Lagann's 'story' is extremely straightforward until the timeskip, anyway.
It's more of a "this confirms that I can't stand Fanservice shows, regardless of the genders involved"
Space dandy is like a pbs show when compared to kill LA kill.
If you mean cleaning up the broadcast animation errors, yes. The blu rays have a bunch of minor things fixed like wrong colors and little animation flubs.
The difference between the fanservice in SAO and KLK is that in the former it is ALWAYS for the sake of pandering whilst in the later is starts off as a plot point (which I don't think they did as interesting of a job as they could have with) and later becomes just a matter of fact or something the characters own. Whilst in SAO females are either always relatively weak or become weak, most of the major players in the KLK universe (good or bad) are female so even while they might too often be in states of low dress, they tend to have way more agency and competency.There is also more gender balance in that there is more male nudity/near-nudity in KLK than in any show I can recall that was almost certainly targeted primarily towards heterosexual males.
HOWEVER, there are some notable exceptions where it slides towards the awkward pandering or bad joke scale in KLK and those tend to stick out because they are so unlike a lot of the rest of show. I can imagine a few episodes generating a page or two of "WHY?.jpg" and what not. Even when the show is staying "above the board" though, there is no denying that Imaishi is a bit of a pervert and that the outfits in KLK are way more risque than in SAO so I can understand why that would be an immediate turn off for some people.
So overall, I don't think its as bad as something like SAO and in fact I put it above a lot of fanservice shows in how it approaches the subject. However, it still isn't clear of any sketchy stuff. Its certainly way worse than Space Dandy (which had fanservice levels you'd pretty much find in any HBO show and was pretty much sketch free).
I think the biggest issues is that the show has a number of plotting, narrative and characterization flaws that TTGL mostly avoided (IMO of course but I know many who agree with me). The metaphors and aims of TTGL are very clear from beginning to end and most of the characters have clear, decisive character arcs. The same isn't really true of KLK - things get muddier as the show goes on and when you compare where the show started to where it ended, it is almost certain that there was some number of internal rewrites that happened as the show went on.
Considering that TTGL and KLK share the same director AND head writer (as well as a few other key staff), the disparity in writing quality between the two shows becomes more apparent and disappointing. Outside the battles, where both shows go kind of crazy, TTGL is more subdued than KLK - a lot of people can only handle so much of Imaishi's craziness so I know the lessened "restraint" was a turn off for some people.
This is not to say I didn't get a lot of enjoyment out of KLK but that many of the criticisms people levy against the show are dead on and I completely understand why it was a turn off for a lot of people. It's a show I found a good deal of enjoyment from but not a show I'm eager to go to bat for if that makes any sense.
HOWEVER, there are some notable exceptions where it slides towards the awkward pandering or bad joke scale in KLK and those tend to stick out because they are so unlike a lot of the rest of show. I can imagine a few episodes generating a page or two of "WHY?.jpg" and what not. Even when the show is staying "above the board" though, there is no denying that Imaishi is a bit of a pervert and that the outfits in KLK are way more risque than in SAO so I can understand why that would be an immediate turn off for some people.
So overall, I don't think its as bad as something like SAO and in fact I put it above a lot of fanservice shows in how it approaches the subject. However, it still isn't clear of any sketchy stuff. Its certainly way worse than Space Dandy (which had fanservice levels you'd pretty much find in any HBO show and was pretty much sketch free).
I think the biggest issues is that the show has a number of plotting, narrative and characterization flaws that TTGL mostly avoided (IMO of course but I know many who agree with me). The metaphors and aims of TTGL are very clear from beginning to end and most of the characters have clear, decisive character arcs. The same isn't really true of KLK - things get muddier as the show goes on and when you compare where the show started to where it ended, it is almost certain that there was some number of internal rewrites that happened as the show went on.
Considering that TTGL and KLK share the same director AND head writer (as well as a few other key staff), the disparity in writing quality between the two shows becomes more apparent and disappointing. Outside the battles, where both shows go kind of crazy, TTGL is more subdued than KLK - a lot of people can only handle so much of Imaishi's craziness so I know the lessened "restraint" was a turn off for some people.
This is not to say I didn't get a lot of enjoyment out of KLK but that many of the criticisms people levy against the show are dead on and I completely understand why it was a turn off for a lot of people. It's a show I found a good deal of enjoyment from but not a show I'm eager to go to bat for if that makes any sense.
FTFY
BassForever
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I remembered when I first saw KLK. The fights at first were crazy then the story did a turn....then another turn....then another like 4 turns. Felt like I was in too deep to stop at that point so I said fuck it let's gooooooo
That is how I feel about a few different Bebop episodes. Legendary show <3
Pizza, butts, and keikaku.
BassForever
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It really depends on the fan service in how it's presented in the series, how characters in the series react to it, and how the audience is supposed to receive said fan service.
Becasue it dumb as fuck, If I want to see ass and tits I have a millions better way to see it.
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