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[Amikami]

That man was always terrifying.

 

[BatDan]

Fun fact: This scene was only like two pages in the manga.
Oda wanted to include it, but he felt CP9's tale had gone too long so he reduced the backstory to just a few panels.

 

[ckohler]

So there's a World Government and yet there are also kings?

 

[daveo42]

Lucci rocking some fancy eyebrows at a young age.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Rob is gonna kill the entire island ain't he?

Now what makes you think that? :3

 

[Mik317]

Are the majority of pirates in the OP universe generally bad people?

well most pirates were awful people

 

[Zonic]

This was TWO pages? Man, it sure doesn't feel like it.

Again, I blame the fact this is just such a long running series they have to adapt & it's hard for me to tolerate the pacing of anime that run 50+ episodes.

 

[Shard]

You are not the boss of me now.

 

[Soulflarz]

Is that Patrick Seitz trying to do a second voice so it doesn't sound like Franky?

 

[MetatronM]

Yeah. This is a bad habit of Oda's. It's especially gotten bad once OP got huge. No editor is gonna second guess him, so he just gets to go on whatever adventure he wants.

This was a very very very short flashback in the manga. Toei just decided to devote the bulk of an episode to it.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

So there's a World Government and yet there are also kings?

It's like the U.N.

 

[Seda]

i dont have any issue with this flashback, yet

 

[Imperial Bishop]

Yeah. This is a bad habit of Oda's. It's especially gotten bad once OP got huge. No editor is gonna second guess him, so he just gets to go on whatever adventure he wants.

This flashback was only two panels in the manga, bruh.

Not that this extended bit is bad. It doe its job in coveying how scary Lucci was when he was starting out.

 

[BassForever]

I like how iron body kept his clothes from getting cut

 

[GaimeGuy]

This was TWO pages? Man, it sure doesn't feel like it.

Again, I blame the fact this is just such a long running series they have to adapt & it's hard for me to tolerate the pacing of anime that run 50+ episodes.

I don't think they actually showed the flashback, they just had the vice admiral say "Lucci did X 15 years ago"

 

[Jarate]

I like how iron body kept his clothes from getting cut

One Piece clothes logic bro

 

[Grexeno]

It's like the U.N.

But with way more power than the constituent nations

 

[lazybones18]

A water gun? Must be a 4Kids joke

 

[Schadenfreude]

They really don't get it, do they?

 

[yami4ct]

This was TWO pages? Man, it sure doesn't feel like it.

Again, I blame the fact this is just such a long running series they have to adapt & it's hard for me to tolerate the pacing of anime that run 50+ episodes.

Oda's pages are filled with dialogue. They seriously contain at least 2x the dialogue of any other weekly series. It makes reading them take a real long time. He's quite a dense writer.

This flashback was only two panels in the manga, bruh.

Not that this extended bit is bad. It doe its job in coveying how scary Lucci was when he was starting out.

I meant this more as a general observation, not just about this specific flashback.

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Pft hostages.

 

[Takashi]

Yeah pretty much.

well most pirates were awful people

I see. I wasn't sure since I've only really seen the Straw Hats and a few other good ones as a frame of reference.

 

[BassForever]

But with way more power than the constituent nations

So like FIFA?

 

[SigmasonicX]

This was TWO pages? Man, it sure doesn't feel like it.

Again, I blame the fact this is just such a long running series they have to adapt & it's hard for me to tolerate the pacing of anime that run 50+ episodes.

No, BatDan was saying this was intended to be two pages. It was only two panels (just text) in the final manga.

 

[UltraGunner]

His body is stronger than iron and you threaten him with guns?

 

[Grexeno]

So like FIFA?

Holy shit this works wayyyy too well

 

[Jarate]

So like FIFA?

Way less corrupt

 

[BassForever]

I see. I wasn't sure since I've only really seen the Straw Hats and a few other good ones as a frame of reference.

The Straw Hats are really just adventurers who claim to be pirates because it's cool to be a pirate. Ironically enough if they were to drop the pirate name and flag they wouldn't even be a thought in the government's eye until Robin joined them.

 

[Raxus]

Toei took two panels and turned them into one episode. Studio Pierrot took two panels and turned that into 2-3 episodes.

 

[Soulflarz]

I see. I wasn't sure since I've only really seen the Straw Hats and a few other good ones as a frame of reference.

Yeah, really, Luffy actively got himself the hate at the start.

I thought about it when I was a little in, it's silly he calls himself a pirate constantly.

The Straw Hats are really just adventurers who claim to be pirates because it's cool to be a pirate. Ironically enough if they were to drop the pirate name and flag they wouldn't even be a thought in the government's eye until Robin joined them.

They do it to prove a point cause they can lol.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

So like FIFA?

Yes, slave trade and megalomaniac leaders and all

 

[SigmasonicX]

Oda's pages are filled with dialogue. They seriously contain at least 2x the dialogue of any other weekly series. It makes reading them take a real long time. He's quite a dense writer.

Yet a chapter of One Piece still only has about half as much TEXT TEXT TEXT as Negima.

 

[yami4ct]

Way less corrupt

Isn't the World Government still kind of corrupt? They're real big assholes at the very least and not just to pirates.

 

[Mik317]

I see. I wasn't sure since I've only really seen the Straw Hats and a few other good ones as a frame of reference.

Nami steals shit and you generally get the feeling Luffy and Zoro would not hesitate to kill a motherfucker or two.

In the pilot(s), Luffy wanted to be a Peace Corps...a pirate who stopped bad pirates...this was dropped for the series..meaning Luffy don't care.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Toei took two panels and turned them into one episode. Studio Pierrot took two panels and turned that into 2-3 episodes.

Still got nothing on Kyoto Animation which just reaired the same episodes 8 times with different outfits and camera angles

 

[BatDan]

Toei took two panels and turned them into one episode. Studio Pierrot took two panels and turned that into 2-3 episodes.

What happened here?

 

[Jarate]

Ant man looks super meh to me, but im getting really bored of generic superhero intro stories

 

[zedreamcast]

Oda's pages are filled with dialogue. They seriously contain at least 2x the dialogue of any other weekly series. It makes reading them take a real long time. He's quite a dense writer.



I meant this more as a general observation, not just about this specific flashback.

Id say Gintama is the only one who beats it since it has paragraphs of dialouge to set up jokes.
But yeah theyre both really dense.

 

[BassForever]

Yet a chapter of One Piece still only has about half as much TEXT TEXT TEXT as Negima.

I'm still in the part where Negima is just a harem comedy with magic and it's really not that wordy

 

[GaimeGuy]

The Straw Hats are really just adventurers who claim to be pirates because it's cool to be a pirate. Ironically enough if they were to drop the pirate name and flag they wouldn't even be a thought in the government's eye until Robin joined them.

Um.... wrong.

Luffy assaulted a government official at Arlong Park.

And he took out one of the warlords in alabasta.

Hell, Luffy assaulted a marine captain (corrupt as he may have been) when he recruited his first crew member (Zoro)

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Destroy China, IL promos.

 

[Man God]

Still got nothing on Kyoto Animation which just reaired the same episodes 8 times with different outfits and camera angles

Different dialogue too. It's impressive as hell.

 

[grandjedi6]

The Straw Hats are really just adventurers who claim to be pirates because it's cool to be a pirate. Ironically enough if they were to drop the pirate name and flag they wouldn't even be a thought in the government's eye until Robin joined them.

Even as pirates the world government barely cared about then until Luffy took out Crocodile and Robin joined them. Luffy only had his initial bounty because one corrupt marine was a sore loser.

 

[Jarate]

Destroy China, IL promos.

Its a shame cause the show is God Tier

 

[Mik317]

Still got nothing on Kyoto Animation which just reaired the same episodes 8 times with different outfits and camera angles

I watched all of this.

My life choices, man

 

[Imperial Bishop]

I see. I wasn't sure since I've only really seen the Straw Hats and a few other good ones as a frame of reference.

I'd say most of the pirates are extremely gray. Some are just more darker gray than the rest.

 

[daveo42]

The Straw Hats are really just adventurers who claim to be pirates because it's cool to be a pirate. Ironically enough if they were to drop the pirate name and flag they wouldn't even be a thought in the government's eye until Robin joined them.

Ehh...them being on the WG's radar started at Arlong though and it was less about them being pirates and more about them fucking with a good deal one of the Marine captains was taking advantage of in East Blue. I think even without being "pirates" they would have ended up on WGs shit list pretty fast due to standing up to the Marines early on.

 

[yami4ct]

Id say Gintama is the only one who beats it since it has paragraphs of dialouge to set up jokes.
But yeah theyre both really dense.

I love Oda's imagination, but he can get a bit tiring to read. Still a super fun series.

 

[BassForever]

Um.... wrong.

Luffy assaulted a government officiaal at Arlong Park.

And he took out one of the warlords in alabasta.

Technically same thing with Captain Morgan as well when he broke a prisoner free, though your later example is the same time Robin joins

 

[UltraGunner]

So like FIFA?

World Govt wishes it was on FIFA's level