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Toonami |Oct/Nov/Dec16| A Bacchanalia of Blood
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Hellwarden
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Man, this fucking year.
ShinRPGamer
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4 more days.
This is still probably the hardest I've ever seen an anime try to get random ass and boob shots in the same scene. They aren't even being subtle about it.
She's wearing tights or something & happen to be white or skin-colored.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
It's the A-1 Pictures way.
So since I'm on vacation this week I've been binging on some anime I've never watched before.
Madoka Magica was really good. Like, I feel like not to be an anime hipster, but it was really really good.
Magi : Labyrinth of Magic was disappointing. I was hooked by the premise but hated the direction the series ultimately ended up going.
Seven Deadly Sins is garbage. Melodias is probably one of the most boring anime protagonists I've ever seen. Dude got some nasty Kirito-syndrome of being too OP, and to add insult to injury, they try to play off his being a sexual harasser as some type of character quirk. Fuck that noise. Most of the other characters aren't much better. They feel like discount versions of better written characters from other shonen series.
Just extremely tight pants.
Here's a manga, and here's the A-1 Pictures version of that manga:
They're terrible.
I thought 7 sins was decent enough (sawano the legend). I agree with you though, the melodias/Elizabeth relationship is so frustrating/creepy that it sort of kills the show for me.
unknownstranger
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Been bored lately so I've been watching random Naruto episodes on Crunchyroll. I'm enjoying it a little more subbed just because of subtitles. I sometimes struggle watching it on Toonami because of how Japanese everything is named. When multiple characters are being named in a row I sometimes struggle following what's going on. It's partly why I got into One Piece first because nearly every character and attack has simple names and it's easier for me to follow.
I actually rather enjoyed Seven Deadly Sins. I think it's art was very nice overall (there's a unique bend to it's style and attention to detail that seems refreshing, and the design variety is very high), and I felt like it played the idea of "Evil" characters as good guys very well.
About Meliodas and Elizabeth... it's very City Hunter-like. The guy is a sexual deviant to an exaggerated "you can't be serious about any of this!" degree, but somehow it's endearing and understood by his targets, to the point where they apologize to HIM for misunderstandings!
It makes no sense whatsoever on a surface real-world level, but I think both shows play with it as a "deeper meaning" thing. For Meliodas, it's obvious
, and for Ryo in CH,
. It's a common kind of way for 80s / 90s anime to balance extreme blatant violence, skill, and power levels with extreme blatant fanservice-enabling males. Minus those incidents, the shows generally stay serious when needed, and keep that kind of stuff out of the real action and serious scenes.
Beyond that, the characters reminded me of a mix of fun twist on my expectations... and FMA characters. Gowther is a much better male that tries to play the visual part of a female design for me than Kurapikam and the cold, automaton-like way he looks at life and situations constantly had me on edge. Diane looks like the most menacing, strong one of the group... and could be, but she's actually childish by her clans ages; innocent, but not to the point where she won't be serious when need be. I rather loved howFMA's Greed Ban really embraced his immortality by getting blown to bits in the most horrific of ways. It's something I feel like most shows are too reserved with. He uses it as a defensive tool to help and protect others, or just to have his over-powered friends vent their frustrations in a way that would kill entire cities otherwise.
I really liked their use of the characters long lives as something more than showing us how immortality is full of loss (as Highlander would.) The characters moved on, and got to see the results of their old friendships, and of the kids born from people who they stood by all their lives, etc.
If they moped on something painful, it was for DECADES, or even centuries; the act of a being that understands they have all the time in the world to do things as they wish. A hundred or more year misunderstanding and mistakes turned into legends that all around had heard, while the participants were still alive to hear their own tales spun into such things, and react to being actual living legends.
I felt like it fully accepted how "grey" everyone in the show should be too, rather than trying to show me a young boy brutally kill off people one episode, and then pretend they're cute and innocent shonen heroes the next. EVERYONE was some degree of screwed up, on both sides, and the characters in the show seemed to all *get* that. And they did a good job explaining WHY I should be Sympathetic to people I might of otherwise hated. I actually got why Guila, Gilthunder, and Helbram did what they did in the end, for example.
I also don't think Meliodas is Kirito-level OP.
Every one of these legendary outlaws (and enemies with Demon Blood) basically has insane levels of power, which is amplified by their personal weapons, too.
I actually thought all the side battles were equally interesting to the main conflicts, too. I was satisfied with each characters showing of power and chosen opponents towards then end, rather than mumbling, say "Usopp got this cool new power up, but he never does anything with it!" or "why does Robin always feel like she's just window dressing?" Our main hero might be strong, be he can't rend earth like Diane, he doesn't have revival ability anyway near the power of Ban's, he can't invade dreams and thoughts like Gowther... he actually has a "trump card" acute enough (With his Revenge Counter) to where you can see WHY he needs a group, and can't just beat everything on his own. Even with his broken demon power-up, almost any of the main characters could probably kill him if they had to, with a bit of strategy.
In retrospect, I probably enjoyed it more than most of our Toonami Shonen shows. Probably enjoyed it more than Black Lagoon and Hellsing Ultimate too (save for Crispin Freeman's "deliciously evil" way of playing EdgyTheStampedepire). It really reminded me a lot of FMA, with an even heavier twist on classic Swords and Sorcery fantasy settings.
About Meliodas and Elizabeth... it's very City Hunter-like. The guy is a sexual deviant to an exaggerated "you can't be serious about any of this!" degree, but somehow it's endearing and understood by his targets, to the point where they apologize to HIM for misunderstandings!
It makes no sense whatsoever on a surface real-world level, but I think both shows play with it as a "deeper meaning" thing. For Meliodas, it's obvious
that eLIZabeth is a reincarnation of his former lover LIZ, so he's basically making up for lost 1000s of years with a woman who loves him so much, she's reincarnated and got close to him again.
the show goes on and on about how many evil people have these uncontrollable instincts to kill and do evil, which Ryo should give into every time he has a chance to kill. He should basically be the best, cruelest killer in his world. But he shifts his deviancy to invasive perversions, rather than murdering anyone who gets in his way.
Beyond that, the characters reminded me of a mix of fun twist on my expectations... and FMA characters. Gowther is a much better male that tries to play the visual part of a female design for me than Kurapikam and the cold, automaton-like way he looks at life and situations constantly had me on edge. Diane looks like the most menacing, strong one of the group... and could be, but she's actually childish by her clans ages; innocent, but not to the point where she won't be serious when need be. I rather loved how
I really liked their use of the characters long lives as something more than showing us how immortality is full of loss (as Highlander would.) The characters moved on, and got to see the results of their old friendships, and of the kids born from people who they stood by all their lives, etc.
If they moped on something painful, it was for DECADES, or even centuries; the act of a being that understands they have all the time in the world to do things as they wish. A hundred or more year misunderstanding and mistakes turned into legends that all around had heard, while the participants were still alive to hear their own tales spun into such things, and react to being actual living legends.
I felt like it fully accepted how "grey" everyone in the show should be too, rather than trying to show me a young boy brutally kill off people one episode, and then pretend they're cute and innocent shonen heroes the next. EVERYONE was some degree of screwed up, on both sides, and the characters in the show seemed to all *get* that. And they did a good job explaining WHY I should be Sympathetic to people I might of otherwise hated. I actually got why Guila, Gilthunder, and Helbram did what they did in the end, for example.
I also don't think Meliodas is Kirito-level OP.
It's clear he could have died multiple times, but Liz's tears are subtly illustrated to have a healing power that very few know exist. She even saved her sister Veronica from death, unknowingly.
I actually thought all the side battles were equally interesting to the main conflicts, too. I was satisfied with each characters showing of power and chosen opponents towards then end, rather than mumbling, say "Usopp got this cool new power up, but he never does anything with it!" or "why does Robin always feel like she's just window dressing?" Our main hero might be strong, be he can't rend earth like Diane, he doesn't have revival ability anyway near the power of Ban's, he can't invade dreams and thoughts like Gowther... he actually has a "trump card" acute enough (With his Revenge Counter) to where you can see WHY he needs a group, and can't just beat everything on his own. Even with his broken demon power-up, almost any of the main characters could probably kill him if they had to, with a bit of strategy.
In retrospect, I probably enjoyed it more than most of our Toonami Shonen shows. Probably enjoyed it more than Black Lagoon and Hellsing Ultimate too (save for Crispin Freeman's "deliciously evil" way of playing EdgyTheStampedepire). It really reminded me a lot of FMA, with an even heavier twist on classic Swords and Sorcery fantasy settings.
BassForever
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Magi and 7 deadly sins suffer from anime that condense and skip stuff fwiw and don't adapt parts of the story that better explain elements you found frustrating in the first part.
I actually think it worked well for Sins (haven't seen Magi) since basically every main character was getting back an old ability, weapon, or power.
Like I often dislike how "training" seems to not exist in One Piece. Minus the big time skip, it seems like new Tech just HAPPENS out of nowhere. This is especially weird when the anime has arcs that fill in unknown gaps... and they don't assist in explaining anything.
Hmm, I dunno. Just on cast, characterization, and events, I'd probably see One Piece, HxH, and Naruto as more "basic", just because so much of what happens in them, and with their characters is so reliable, you could set a watch by it. I was thinking less about shonen, and more about RPG parties with 7DS.
Thankfully, he's not really a child,
It always makes me wonder how the Voice Actresses feel about such roles, though, on both sides of the world. Especially when you have 30~50+ yr old women playing the role of a young girl in an uncomfortable situation.
SigmasonicX
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Seven Deadly Sins does have a lot of interesting things, particularly involving the long lives of the characters, and I actually really like how each Deadly Sin is more OP than the last. There are great moments like that part where Meliodas catches that spear and throws it back. The only real downside is, indeed, Meliodas' awkward relationship with Elizabeth.
Also, though he probably is meant to be an ageless child, the way everyone interacted with Meliodas just made me view him as a short adult.
Also, though he probably is meant to be an ageless child, the way everyone interacted with Meliodas just made me view him as a short adult.
BassForever
Member
I have no idea if 7 deadly sins will ever adapt the part of the manga that basically explains Meliodas personality and relationship with Liz and Elizabeth but it made me like his character a lot more.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Started watching My Hero Academia.
Getting early Naruto vibes.
I like it so far.
Getting early Naruto vibes.
I like it so far.
Read the manga when it ends. It really takes off where the anime left off.
Artwork is stellar too and often the anime doesn't do it justice.
Mind that Season 1 has really bad pacing, and covers the set-up arcs. You won't get to the really good bits that made the series great until Season 2.
edit: Season 1 covers only 22 chapters, so I'd recommend rereading from Chapter 1 if you're okay with it! The better artwork and pacing makes it worth it.
edit: Season 1 covers only 22 chapters, so I'd recommend rereading from Chapter 1 if you're okay with it! The better artwork and pacing makes it worth it.
I still think it is overall solid thanks to the set up and writing of the series. I am a biased superhero fanboy though. A 26 episode season would have done wonders for it but I guess they want to let the manga keep up.
As it is Season 2 is going to be packed.
Yeah. I'm just bitter lol
People had a lot of complaints about season 1, literally none of which would've been an issue if they covered more arcs and had better pacing.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Looking forward to reading the manga afterwards. The pacing of the anime is mostly fine except for flashbacks that feel like padding.
It really doesn't help when any adaption coming in the next few months has to be compared to DiU. We've been spoiled.
You'd be 100% correct. There really isn't that many flashbacks in the manga.
And if that's the case, the pacing will be a lot better. That's 37 chapters in 13 episodes compared to the 21 chapters in season 1.
Promo images on top of the end teaser seem to suggest that to be the case.
In fact many were hoping season 1 would be 26 episodes and cover up to that point since it has a natural stopping point at the end.
BassForever
Member
Is it confirmed 13 episodes?
Imperial Bishop
Banned
I believe MHA is a lock for Toonami. We just don't know when.
Seven Deadly Sins is a no-go thanks to Netflix.
Magi is unknown right now.
Seven Deadly Sins is a no-go thanks to Netflix.
Magi is unknown right now.
Before Hunter x Hunter & JoJo & Gundam I might have agreed about MHA being a lock.
Imperial Bishop
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It's still a lock, but whether it comes in 2017/18/19/ is up in the air.
No but it's reasonable to believe it will be. I'll be happy with 2-cours, but I would hope it goes past
Stain
I honestly hope 1 a.m. doesn't become the Gundam slot. If DeMarco wants to air different Gundam shows, that's fine, but constantly back-to-back would get kind of tiresome.
Heck, as much as I want Jojo Parts 3 & 4 to air, I honestly feel like a show inbetween would help give it a break.
We really only have two slots that'll open up this year, right? Jojo & Gundam? Everything else is long running?
Heck, as much as I want Jojo Parts 3 & 4 to air, I honestly feel like a show inbetween would help give it a break.
We really only have two slots that'll open up this year, right? Jojo & Gundam? Everything else is long running?
MHA & MP100 would be great "break" shows.
Speakin' of Jojo, it would be interesting if they aired Part 3 in its entirety or will do what Japan did & split it up into 2 seasons. Viz still needs to confirm if they're selling Part 3 as a complete "series" or if they're gonna split them into two.
This is what I want, now I just hope it happens.
I don't discount MHA wholly but given what the Toonami staff want and what the Toonami audience wants collectively it is shockingly just another show right now.
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