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Toonami |Oct14| A Place for Manly Souls
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Well, fuck, we are going to have to put up with Psycho-Pass in 2015.
There's a couple of other shows that have been mentioned by name in past Q+A's like Outlaw Star and Fairy Tail that still haven't made it in.
Sailor Moon is a dead cert in some form or another.
EDIT: Why is everyone so sure it'll be IGPX? Something like FLCL is much more likely.
...I'm totally OK with this. I can enjoy it again and everyone else can either form an opinion or hate-watch. Win-Win-Win?
I distinctly remember Fairy Tail got a pass, probably because of DBZ Kai.
BassForever
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The problem with the Fake Karakura town has always been there are far too many pointless fights that get far too much attention. Major one on one fights that last 2-4 episodes should be reserved for the main characters/top tier characters which in Bleach are supposed to be Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, Chad, Orihime, and Uriyu. The first major problem of the Fake Karakura town arc is that none of these characters are in the arc! The captains and vice captains in canon have not been given enough screen time to warrant these large matches outside of Byakuya, Toshiro, and Kenpachi. You could argue Ikkaku and Rangiku as well but going back to my big 3 captains the two biggest (Byakuya and Kenpachi) are not in the arc either. Combine with the fact most of the major arrancar that have been introduced have already been beaten by Ichigo and co at Hueco Mundo (Uqlorria, Grimjow, and Yammy) which means outside of Coyote Stark none of established Espada are at the Fake Karakura town either. We do have Aizen, Gin, and Tosen there... but they're immediately sealed behind a wall of flames by Yamato leaving all the battles to be between the bottom of the barrel heroes vs the bottom of the barrel villains. You might say "but Bass it's a war arc of course you let everyone get in on the fighting" and I'd agree, the thing is there is a way to do this without giving everyone a 2-3 episode one on one battle. You do this by either giving everyone A) a 10-15 minute match with the remaining 5 minutes setting up the next fight or B) you do group battles where 2-5 good guys go up against 2-5 bad guys at the same time or C) you just go crazy and have an all out brawl where everyone is fighting at the same time and you may get 1-2 minutes focused on a particular one on one but we never follow any major match. With C you'd generally either have one major fight (say main hero vs main villain) or event (such as main character attempting to stop the fighting or stall until help arrives etc) that we keep cutting back to as our focus point where if that main fight/objective is completed the battle is won/lost.
Let's use Dragon Ball Z as an example, lets just say for plot reasons Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, and Piccolo (during Cell saga era) were on another planet for whatever reason when suddenly Cell and a host of Cell Jrs showed up. The only people left to fight on Earth are Krillin, Tien, Chaitosu, Yamcha, Master Roshi, some of the namekians who fought against Freeza and now lived on Earth, and a few characters from the red ribbon army arc like General Blue and Mercenary Tao and we gave each of these characters a 2-3 episode fight against a villain. This would be dreadfully boring as you know none of these good guys can defeat Cell and we're not even sure when Goku and the main team are even going to be able to show up. Any one of these fights might be enjoyable and heck Tien and Krillin are fairly popular b-tier characters and it's cool to let them get some time to shine, but when we get down to seeing random Namekian who beat a few Freeza soldiers fight random Cell Jr for 2-3 episodes you're going to burn out. By the time Goku and the main characters show up to fight Cell you're probably just tired and want this arc to end but now we have our major show down which is good and lengthy but after so much stalling the impact this fight show have is lessened.
I hope that makes sense as to my personal problem with the arc in terms of pacing, obviously the problem of giving b/c tier characters major fights is still an issue, but you could cut quiet a few of those fights down into 1/2 - 1 episodes. Make those fights snappy and quick and you could probably reduce some of the burn out a lot of people start to feel at this point in Bleach.
Let's use Dragon Ball Z as an example, lets just say for plot reasons Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, and Piccolo (during Cell saga era) were on another planet for whatever reason when suddenly Cell and a host of Cell Jrs showed up. The only people left to fight on Earth are Krillin, Tien, Chaitosu, Yamcha, Master Roshi, some of the namekians who fought against Freeza and now lived on Earth, and a few characters from the red ribbon army arc like General Blue and Mercenary Tao and we gave each of these characters a 2-3 episode fight against a villain. This would be dreadfully boring as you know none of these good guys can defeat Cell and we're not even sure when Goku and the main team are even going to be able to show up. Any one of these fights might be enjoyable and heck Tien and Krillin are fairly popular b-tier characters and it's cool to let them get some time to shine, but when we get down to seeing random Namekian who beat a few Freeza soldiers fight random Cell Jr for 2-3 episodes you're going to burn out. By the time Goku and the main characters show up to fight Cell you're probably just tired and want this arc to end but now we have our major show down which is good and lengthy but after so much stalling the impact this fight show have is lessened.
I hope that makes sense as to my personal problem with the arc in terms of pacing, obviously the problem of giving b/c tier characters major fights is still an issue, but you could cut quiet a few of those fights down into 1/2 - 1 episodes. Make those fights snappy and quick and you could probably reduce some of the burn out a lot of people start to feel at this point in Bleach.
ASSauLTxMasTER
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EDIT: Damn it Zonic
Doctor Decimate
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Intruder 2 is gonna be multiple weeks
mightynine
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Kai open not 100% decided yet. Original open week one, likely Toonami open after that.
Intruder 2 will be a multi-week event.
EDIT: Darnit, my PBP is slow.
Intruder 2 will be a multi-week event.
EDIT: Darnit, my PBP is slow.
Schadenfreude
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Wait, where's it say we're getting Psycho pass?
In response to a question, he stated "I like Pyscho-Pass, of course I can't say whether or not something will be added to the block though. You'll have to wait and see!"
mightynine
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Lich just said he likes the show, didn't say anything about actually getting it.
He can't actually say he got the show but reading between the lines here, they got the show.
It doesn't. Whenever someone answers a question about a specific show though the odds of it showing up sometime later goes up quite a bit.
Final Act, DBZ Kai, Attack on Titan are all three good examples. They don't answer questions about shows they haven't gotten/can't get most of the time.
Shippuden was another!
ASSauLTxMasTER
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Welp, I got my question in and answered. Someone should ask about Bebop HD. 
BassForever
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Looks like we need another long running shonen series that has a lot of dubbed episodes to air
Fairy Tail looks more and more like a good decision for the block
Doctor Decimate
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he said One Piece openings will likely stay 30 seconds when the endings cut out but the guy asking didn't mention that the openings increase in length.
Doctor Decimate
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R.I.P. IGPX
We know they would have to pay for that.
BassForever
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It'll be the replacement for AoT after it reruns
mightynine
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That a question about merchandise was answered with "Merch - what a good idea!" makes me very hopeful I can pick up a Toonami t-shirt or knick-knack soon.
Imperial Bishop
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Nah, man. I need my DRAAAAGOOON SOOOOOOOUUUULLLLLL!
ASSauLTxMasTER
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This is another strange thing, so far they like the regular-cour shows leading the block, I mean why not have DBZ Kai at 11:30 PM?
T.O.M bobbleheads! Absolution lego sets!
& "we'll see" on AoT moving away from its 11:30 AM slot.
mightynine
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He did respond with "Programming thinks AoT will do better at 11:30. We'll see!" so perhaps this has been discussed.
AOT nearly breaking Bleach's ratings record makes them think that the reruns will do well. That and it leaves it open in half a year to being switched up with whatever new hotness they can pick up. That's the theory at any rate.
I am fine with this.
BassForever
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If I had to guess maybe they're hoping the huge Bleach fandom that tunes in at midnight for Bleach might be more likely to stick around with Toonami once Bleach ends if they tune in at 12 and see DBZ instead of Naruto Shippuden? Or perhaps they do plan to slide DBZ:Kai up to 11:30, Naruto Shippuden to 12, and either One Piece/Fairy Tail/long running shonen to 12:30 leaving the other of Fairy Tail/long running shonen/One Piece once they get past the holidays and can slide AoT into the 2:30 spot
Doctor Decimate
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hm. guess they grabbed Hellsing kinda late in the game?
We're getting (slowly) to the best part of Shippuden.
King of the Block doesn't need to be questioned. The people know better.
Ino fans most likely
Hmm, that statement about Hellsing Ultimate being a response to the fans wanting more darker stuff makes me wonder if the 2:30 AM show will be another "darker" show as well, like with Black Lagoon.
Inuyasha: Final Act will run with the full open on the night of the premiere and have a shortened open thereafter.
Inuyasha: Final Act will run with the full open on the night of the premiere and have a shortened open thereafter.
BassForever
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Sentai incoming?
Other then Sentai who out there would they be able to get rights to air anime from? Rightstuf with Gundam?
Other then Sentai who out there would they be able to get rights to air anime from? Rightstuf with Gundam?
mightynine
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He already said 2:30 won't be a premiere show.
I just don't see them getting another endless battle shonen when they already have the cream of the crop. Basically I am expecting Sailor Moon instead.
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