UltraGunner
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I'd pay an extra 100 if it means I can get them with Spider-man designs.
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I'd pay an extra 100 if it means I can get them with Spider-man designs.
BassForever
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The best vn I've ever played is Ever 17 and that game is 100% dialogue with occasionally option on which direct to go.
The ace attorney games work better for me then the Zero Escape games because the court and investigation segments actually develop the story, the puzzle rooms in ZE on the other hand stop almost all character development and story progression until you finish them and the puzzles are often early adventure game tier of " run around touching things until something happens or you find something, go back and repeat until puzzle is cleared". I don't necessarily have a problem with that from a design perspective in adventure games, but the ZE series are VN where you can sometimes go 30 minutes plus doing nothing but reading (very good) text. It's like reading a compelling drama/mystery/asventure book and every once in awhile someone walks up, snatches the puzzle and hands you a rubiks cube and another random brain teaser and says "solve these before you can read more"
Agreed. I feel like VNs, while they can have some great stories, are hard to justify spending my money on when they're basically "choose your own adventure". While I enjoy games like Ace Attorney, VLR (I'LL PLAY 999, I SWEAR, I ACTUALLY EVEN GOT A COPY NOW), and Danganronpa, which have a huge amount of text, there's still some gameplay elements & more importantly, I feel more involved with the story because I have to figure the plot/mystery out like in AA & DR.
With flat-out VNs, I feel like I should just read the manga &/or watch the anime so I don't have to keep clicking every few seconds to read, considering my reading speed. They just feel more like books. I'm not part of the ride like with other games, I'm just watching it, if that makes sense. I don't feel involved with the overall plot, save for "Choose A or B & watch what happens".
Now granted, there's SOME VNs that I might try, just because I know the stories are really good (Katawa Shojo & Steins;Gate, since that has stuff not in the anime), & I know that's the reason why people like them, but I'd rather feel like I'm actually a part of the story.
BassForever
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I didn't care much for Danganronpa because the actualy gameplay was mediocre. The one on ones in particular were a complete waste of time and I never enjoyed walking around the school looking for clues to move things forward. Also big middle finger to whoever decided that you'd have to absorb a statement from later in the discussion and use it to destroy an early part of the discussion, if our hero can time travel there shouldn't be any murders...
What makes visual novels different from manga and anime is that they are basically much bigger and more involved choose your own adventure books. The story is the focus of these games and if you want to add more gameplay elements do it like ace attorney where its still basically all reading.
Also Zonic I'd say you feel MORE a part of the story in a game like Ever 17 or F/SN because your choices lead the story down various different paths. I'll admit VLR fixed this slightly by incorporating a map and having the many various paths more unique then they were in 999 where it was a much bigger problem.
What makes visual novels different from manga and anime is that they are basically much bigger and more involved choose your own adventure books. The story is the focus of these games and if you want to add more gameplay elements do it like ace attorney where its still basically all reading.
Also Zonic I'd say you feel MORE a part of the story in a game like Ever 17 or F/SN because your choices lead the story down various different paths. I'll admit VLR fixed this slightly by incorporating a map and having the many various paths more unique then they were in 999 where it was a much bigger problem.
Doctor Decimate
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i'd just like to say that the combination of Zonic's tag and his old avatar is fantastic
I meant spellcheck. I wrote that on PC.
Doctor Decimate
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by the way:
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05: Lovers are Trendy, Baby
06: Nobody Knows the Chameleon Alien, Baby
07: Rock and Roll Dandy, Baby
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Youve played Ever 17?
BassForever
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Yeah Ever17 is awesome, decided to play it based upon Cosmic Blizzards LTTP thread and it blew my mind
Im gonna play the 3 in order. But i need to finish Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni (Kai) and im only on arc 7/8. Also a lot of fun.
If murder is your thing.
That's a valid point. I think it's just when I play a game, I want to feel more in control of the main character and his actions. Again, a VN to me feels more like one of those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books, like you stated. Not that it's a bad thing or anything (especially when the story is the selling point &/or they're good), but when I play a video game, I kind of want more interactivity between me & the game, which is why I feel like the games I mentioned worked since they still have a focus on story and lots of text, but I still feel involved because I have to figure out a puzzle, who did what & how, where the plot's going, etc. Though one could say that for a VN that's focused on being a mystery, like Higurashi.
Again, this is a valid point. It's part of the reason why I'm tempted to check out the Steins;Gate VN, because I know there's stuff that wasn't covered in the anime. If anything, I guess one could argue the anime (& if there is one, manga) version is more of an advertisement for the VN. Like the anime? Well there's more content in the VN version! Maybe some stuff we COULDN'T show!!
I think my main issue is that VNs tend to be rather expensive or about the same price as games I'm more interested in, and I won't replay them after I find all the endings. As much as I like AA & DR, there's just very little replay value to me, & I fear it'd be even lower for actual VNs.
Edit: I also don't HATE VNs, per say, because there's times where I want a story to be a stronger element of a game, but they're just not high on my list of preferred genres. I don't mind them, I guess. Even more so when they have an auto button to advance the text like in P4A/U, BlazBlue, & Danganronpa so I don't have to keep hitting the button.
Haha, that's why I figured I'd use it again. Probably will keep it up until the end of the year. Not sure if I'll holiday-ize it for Halloween &/or Xmas.
I kinda want to play Ever17, but I installed DRAMAtical Murder and the translation patch a few months ago (Before the anime started!), and haven't even started that. I also bought Steins Gate when that got released a few months ago- haven't started that either.
Unless Ever17 somehow ends up on Steam or something, I'm probably never playing it
Unless Ever17 somehow ends up on Steam or something, I'm probably never playing it
I dont like puzzle games
I love 999.
It just has a really good story. Play it as a book not as a game i guess?
Something something iOS version.
After a while I honestly did better without my meds and just stopped taking them.
Yep. Moms took me off them at the end of 6th grade. 7th and 8th was hard just to get better control of it but once you do it gets better.
I generally stopped taking in my sophomore year of college, after dropping to half a dosage (36 mg Concerta from 72 mg) in my freshman year. I get my prescription filled a few times a year, but it sucks as I need to see the doctor each and every time I want it filled
Imperial Bishop
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Not to offend anyone, but I'm a little surprised some of the posters here have ADHD.
I guess it's because I'm still too new and haven't interacted as much with you guys.
I guess it's because I'm still too new and haven't interacted as much with you guys.
It's not something that should really be apparent through typing though, and really, with how disjointed my posts are, it's really the only way to tell, but then that could just be a writing quirk
No, because of the twist everyone talks about way too much. The iOS version takes out the interactivity that made it good >.<
Im just saying he should play it for the story not for the gameplay, but definently shouldnt skip the gameplay entirely!
Would you believe that I somehow *dont* have ADHD? >.>
Imperial Bishop
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I can understand that. I have some weird writing quirks, too.
Surprising, yes.
TOMINO!
Imperial Bishop
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lazybones18
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Meeeeeeh
what are my toonami brehs FC stuff
I'm getting a
the struggle and very ugly might I add, as hell 2DS
BassForever
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Man I really want to watch this new gundamu series but I've already dedicated the next 48 hours to smash bros (and working tomorrow grumble grumble)
Come on and SMASH and welcome to the SMASH!!! Come on and SMASH if you want to SMASH!!!
Hoping to make it to the local tournament at my GS tonight. Ours isn't part of that national tournament, but the winner gets a free game of their choice or pre-order completely paid off.
...I just hope the line isn't long & that I can leave early, but I'm watching 4 kids at the moment, so I gotta wait for my dad & his gf to get home.
BassForever
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CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOO
CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOO
My body is ready for Smash
CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOO
My body is ready for Smash
I would be but
1) i failed a test today w/ most of my class and if he doesnt curve it im fucked :/ (why does he give the regular class the same test as the AP class with less questions. The questions are less, theyre still hard as hell >.> Just because its 2 different difficulty levels in a single room/class period doesnt mean we should get the same test erg)
2) "college interview" mockup for a communications class. For our future college interviews...
Im not even doing interviews. And worst we actually have to get critiqued by the rest of our class.
So yeah, not in the best of moods.
Gonna pick it up tomorrow at the Nintendo World Store in-between events tomorrow.
Yeah I'm pretty excited about it. Here's hoping it's good!
Meh...waiting for the actual version of the game to come out.
& to you think you guys only thought of Smash Bros.
What do you think Ed was trying to remember? SMASH BROS IS WHAT
Well, episode 1 was pretty god damned Tomino. Haven't seen episode 2 yet because North America is region locked with that Viemo player.
Imperial Bishop
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& to you think you guys only thought of Smash Bros.
Unfortunately for Ed, The 3DS didn't exist in FMA's time period.
Doctor Decimate
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episode 1 is locked now too
how has this not been picked up in the US yet? is Sunrise that stubborn with this franchise?
Hmm, you're right, it came out in 2.11 & 3.11....
There we go.
& crap, starting to wonder if I'll be able to make the tournament or not, considering my dad & his gf aren't home yet.
Lol.
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