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I remember being so excited when I found out the fox box acquired One Piece. I watched every single episode until it started running on toonami haha.
What was I thinking.
What was I thinking.
Are you serious?? I remember watching a few episodes back in the day when I was giving it a go. I could ever get into the manga. It was just too busy and I guess it's not my favorite art-style ever. Anyway, I had no references. I had no idea about that sort of editing. Why even bother dubbing if you're gonna have to go through that much trouble for God knows what reason? I'm a bit stunned.
At least the One Piece editor at Viz promised a special edition with all the correct terminology and spellings in place ("Zolo" wasn't the only problem). When that will happen though ... no idea. Either when One Piece sells like crazy or the series ends.
Why on Earth did they think One Piece would reach Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh levels of popularity? Both of those had a collective aspect and dipped their toes in other things such as TCG. Pure ignorance?
That's what I thought but someone told me it was a one time only thing and it ended up being someone calling him Zoro with a stutter. Or so I heard.
Said editor, Alexis Kirsch, said "Z-O-R-O" would appear in a chapter on WSJ Alpha. It ended up being Usopp with a frozen mouth saying "Zorwo". That's why I have trouble believing Kirsch when he says a special edition is likely, the man is a troll.
On the bright side, Viz seems to be pushing One Piece harder than before as it has years of stories to tell, and their two biggest properties look to be ending soon. Bleach is confirmed to be in its final arc (how long that will last is anyone's guess) and Naruto certainly looks like it's in the endgame.
I read the manga via shonen jump before the anime got here so I had an idea that it was very popular in Japan but never did I think it would be anywhere near as popular as Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. All the marketing in the world wouldn't have seen to that.One Piece is HUGE in Japan, I guess they figured that it would transfer over. Maybe it would have if 4Kids hadn't shit the bed.
Yea but at the pace Kubo tells stories that final arc could last years. That said if One Piece takes off it'll be for the best.
I read the manga via shonen jump before the anime got here so I had an idea that it was very popular in Japan but never did I think it would be anywhere near as popular as Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. All the marketing in the world wouldn't have seen to that.
Christ, I had no clue the fandom went to that extent in Japan.http://ithinkincomics.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/one-piece-isnt-an-anime-its-a-way-of-life/
This article should show you how big it is.
I hate how the manga calls the Poneglyphs "Ponegliffs". Glyph is a fucking word, Viz.
God almighty.Oh yeah, they do that too. Fucking hell. There's plenty of others.
Sea Kings are called Neptunians for some reason.
Elbaf is spelled "Elbaph", completely missing the fact that it's "Fable" spelled backwards. "Hpable?"
Cocoyashi Village is just "Coco Village", a change from the 4Kids dub.
Every instance of calling Eneru "God" is now "Kami", believing it would offend people or something stupid. Even though in the original kana it's "Goddo Eneru".
There's zero mention of Bon Clay being an Okama/Crossdreser, instead lying that the back of his coat says "Oh Come My Way". I think they gave up when Impel Down happened.
Oh yeah, and they also called Loguetown "Roguetown", missing the entire point of the name coming from "Prologue and Epilogue" and the nickname of "The Town of Beginnings and Endings".
I read the manga via shonen jump before the anime got here so I had an idea that it was very popular in Japan but never did I think it would be anywhere near as popular as Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. All the marketing in the world wouldn't have seen to that.
It was marketed as a kids show in America...I really don't have a problem with any of those changes except the seakings thing. If you really expected anything different for a show meant to air during a saturday morning block, I don't know what to tell you. I'd be pissed if Adult Swim purchased the rights to air and made these changes but come on, its 4kids...Oh yeah, they do that too. Fucking hell. There's plenty of others.
Sea Kings are called Neptunians for some reason.
Elbaf is spelled "Elbaph", completely missing the fact that it's "Fable" spelled backwards. "Hpable?"
Cocoyashi Village is just "Coco Village", a change from the 4Kids dub.
Every instance of calling Eneru "God" is now "Kami", believing it would offend people or something stupid. Even though in the original kana it's "Goddo Eneru".
There's zero mention of Bon Clay being an Okama/Crossdreser, instead lying that the back of his coat says "Oh Come My Way". I think they gave up when Impel Down happened.
Oh yeah, and they also called Loguetown "Roguetown", missing the entire point of the name coming from "Prologue and Epilogue" and the nickname of "The Town of Beginnings and Endings".
I was referring to popularity in America but yeah, those are ridiculously impressive numbers.One Piece is far far far bigger than Yu-Gi-Oh ever was. Pokemon is a little harder to compare with since its a cross media franchise.
Here are the top selling manga series in Japan in 2011:
1 One Piece Eiichiro Oda 37,996,373 Shueisha
2 Naruto Masashi Kishimoto 6,874,840 Shueisha
3 Blue Exorcist Kazue Katō 5,223,712 Shueisha
4 Fairy Tail Hiro Mashima 4,701,596 Kodansha
5 Toriko Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro 4,665,634 Shueisha
6 Gintama Hideaki Sorachi 4,415,491 Shueisha
7 Bakuman. Story: Tsugumi Ohba Art: Takeshi Obata 4,399,938 Shueisha
8 Bleach Tite Kubo 4,187,258 Shueisha
9 Kimi ni Todoke Karuho Shiina 4,109,481 Shueisha
10 Gantz Hiroya Oku 4,056,981 Shueisha
Here are the top selling manga series in Japan in 2012:
1 23,464,866 One Piece Shueisha Eiichiro Oda
2 8,070,446 Kuroko's Basketball Shueisha Tadatoshi Fujimaki
3 6,495,240 Naruto Shueisha Masashi Kishimoto
4 5,413,899 Space Brothers (Uchū Kyōdai) Kodansha Chūya Koyama
5 4,128,665 Fairy Tail Kodansha Hiro Mashima
6 4,039,715 Kimi ni Todoke Shueisha Karuho Shiina
7 3,603,710 Silver Spoon Shogakukan Hiromu Arakawa
8 3,439,839 Hunter X Hunter Shueisha Yoshihiro Togashi
9 3,437,182 Magi Shogakukan Shinobu Ohtaka
10 3,211,191 Bakuman. Shueisha Story: Tsugumi Ohba Art: Takeshi Obata
That drop off is mostly due to the fact that the volumes in 2011 were the big mid-series finale of the series for One Piece, but the fact is that not only is One Piece the most popular franchise in Japan, it's the most popular franchise by a MASSIVE margin. There isn't anything remotely even in the same universe in terms of popularity. One Piece also routinely comes in near the top of the anime TV ratings, with the only other shows competing with its numbers being family and children's shows like Sazae-san and Chibi Maruko-chan that have been running since the '70s or so.
It has also just about doubled the sales of the Dragon Ball manga, the previous all-time best selling shounen manga.
God almighty.
It's not a dealbreaker though. Also, I kinda thought the reason behind "Zolo" was that they were scared they'd get sued by the owners of Zorro, and it was stuck before they realized they wouldn't.
It was marketed as a kids show in America...I really don't have a problem with any of those changes except the seakings thing. If you really expected anything different for a show meant to air during a saturday morning block, I don't know what to tell you. I'd be pissed if Adult Swim purchased the rights to air and made these changes but come on, its 4kids...
I thought those were made in response to the anime, guess I was wrong. Still though, don't they market those to the 12-18 age demographic? Not making an excuse, just curious.That was 4Kids reason. But here's the thing, I don't know who actually owns Zorro. I've heard Disney, but I've also heard he's public domain. If that's the case, they overreacted a little bit. Then again, a good number of the edits were overreactions.
I wasn't listing 4Kids changes, those were changes Viz made to the manga. 4Kids never got to Eneru.
I wasn't listing 4Kids changes, those were changes Viz made to the manga. 4Kids never got to Eneru.
I'm assuming the Funi DVD's don't have these changes.
I was scared. I just got all 8 Collections for Christmas.They do not.
Every single arc removal or story removal that 4Kids did would have bit them in the ass HARD later in the series. It's almost as if Oda did it on purpose.
Also, just imagine the 4Kids executives watching Impel Down, and weeping.
4Kids actually made all the changes on Enel for the anime by instituting those changes in the One Piece games. Thus he became "King Eneru," his Priests became "Knights," and his Ordeals became, I shit you not, "IQ Tests" (sometimes actually said as "I Cumulus Tests"). These changes were all continued in the edited American broadcast version aired by Funimation.
Impel Dow is a Superjail based off of Buddhist Hell, and contains:Pretty much.
Skipping Laboon Effects: BROOK! Also, Crocus being in Roger's crew.
Also, Mr. 9 and Miss Wednesday (Vivi) were introduced in the arc, and their presence leads them into Whiskey Peak. In the 4Kids version, they just arrive there randomly (and it's called Misty Peak).
Skipping Little Garden Effects: Usopp's desire to see Elbaf. Oimo and Kash wouldn't be able to join the Straw Hats side because Usopp wouldn't be able to tell them Dorry and Broggy are still alive.
Also, Mr. 3 is introduced, and he shows up in the Alabasta arc. 4Kids actually tried to handwave this by saying he was following them since Loguetown, but this only creates a further plot hole because the Baroque Works didn't know about them until the end of Whiskey Peak.
There's probably further effects, but those are the big ones.
Impel Down? Try Marineford. Whitebeard would have been impossible.
Impel Dow is a Superjail based off of Buddhist Hell, and contains:
People being forced to walk on razor blades
People being thrown into BOILING BLOOD
Every other fucking thing about Impel Down.
I dont believe you guys mentioned the change to Nami's past. Terrible
I liked the flashback showing a guy get shot, and then the guy who did the shooting laughs and says something like "I can't believe he fainted when I fired this pop gun!"
Also POISON SUCTION CUP DARTS!
Like how Arlong sent Bellemere to a dungeon instead of killing her, and Nami just forgets about her.I dont believe you guys mentioned the change to Nami's past. Terrible
money would be a problem.
and then Toonami might not want to air THREE long-ass shonen at the very front of the block
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Impel Dow is a Superjail based off of Buddhist Hell, and contains:
People being forced to walk on razor blades
People being thrown into BOILING BLOOD
Every other fucking thing about Impel Down.
I remember when if first started airing my friends would troll me with the rap which they memorized (they were fans of the manga so they knew how badly it was mangled).I'm about 20 episodes into the Funimation dub of One Piece. Wow, I didn't know 4kids made all those hilarious changes. Maybe that's why I couldn't get into it when it aired years ago.
Which is a shame since, as the posts above have said, it is a pretty big frikkin cash cow. Movies, merchandise, games. It could have been DBZ 2.0.One Piece is mostly dead in America, I don't think Adult Swim would touch it unless they get it for cheap
They will probably go after small cheap anime, unless they expand to the weekdays.
While we're on the topic, I'd like to thank this thread for getting me into One Piece.
It's really good. I'd love to see the dub air on Toonami but it would definitely be hard to schedule considering episode count. Maybe give it an hour when S7 and SBT end (they end close together don't they?)
Eh. I think the only hope for One Piece is a 1-hour block after all the shows that only get 1 ep a night.Maybe they could take turns rotating Bleach/Naruto/One Piece in that 12-1 slot
Eh. I think the only hope for One Piece is a 1-hour block after all the shows that only get 1 ep a night.
You mean Arlong/Alabasta.Until they get to the good bits (Water 7) this would be the bets it could do.
You mean Arlong/Alabasta.
No, I think 2 eps a night until.......Thriller Bark is good.Still a long way to go after that, I'd think they'd want to rush ahead to try and get a little closer to Marineford. If it went 1 episode a week after Arlong we'd never see Impel Down.
Eh, that's too much One PieceI wonder if they would consider removing at least one episode of Bebop or InuYasha from the schedule so OP could get 3 episodes a night.
You can never have too much One Piece ;pEh, that's too much One Piece
My idea is that Adult Swim allows One Piece to air an hour every night, Monday-Friday, until it catches up to Season 4. That's 205 (or 206) episodes. If they're willing to give up that hour of Family Guy repeats that people have seen hundreds of times already.
Or maybe allow an hour of One Piece to start at 11 EST, before Bleach.