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[caliph95]

And Deidara there because we need a Genthru

 

[cntr]

kaiji would be a fun show to group watch

 

[PapaGreg95]

And Deidara there because we need a Genthru

Does that mean

Spoiler

Naruto is going to fist Deidera

 

[Morlas]

now that i think about it an arc where team seven helps tsunade prevent a bomb plot by deidara at a casino is something i'd totally watch

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

 

[Line_HTX]

I was watching some behind the scenes documentaries for some of the CN shows from way back, and I come across the Adult Swim video of the production of Samurai Jack Season 5 from July 2016. It is seriously fucking cool how the stuff looks going from storyboards to the aired product, basically the process of the revival 12 years later.

I had no idea the original Aku passed away though. Damn...

 

[JadedWriter]

I was watching some behind the scenes documentaries for some of the CN shows from way back, and I come across the Adult Swim video of the production of Samurai Jack Season 5 from July 2016. It is seriously fucking cool how the stuff looks going from storyboards to the aired product, basically the process of the revival 12 years later.

I had no idea the original Aku passed away though. Damn...

Mako is also Uncle Iroh from Avatar. That's how I found out.

 

[cntr]

Yup. He even got a memorial episode in the middle of Season 2.

 

[caliph95]

You can't beat me while I'm wearing this great armor

And of course the soul society SDF are dicks

And I don't think i care for this twist with Yusuke

"You have become evil"
"Look jerk give me a break it's called a running joke"

 

[Chase17]

Ugh so it's Naruto but a harem that makes it better

But yeah it's a replacement for Naruto and now FT for young people

The harem thing is somehwhat tolerable, since it just feeds into the gag of him wanting to marry a nun.

 

[JadedWriter]

You can't beat me while I'm wearing this great armor

And of course the soul society SDF are dicks

And I don't think i care for this twist with Yusuke

How dare you scoff at a mans makeshift Saint Seiya armor.

 

[caliph95]

How dare you scoff at a mans makeshift Saint Seiya armor.

Oh forgive me I don't know..........

"He's switching armors"

 

[Chase17]

You can't beat me while I'm wearing this great armor

And of course the soul society SDF are dicks

And I don't think i care for this twist with Yusuke

"You have become evil"
"Look jerk give me a break it's called a running joke"

I finished the manga last night. The actions of the SDF end up making sense from what may be my all time favorite thrown in plot point at the end. I wonder if the anime even mentions it.
I'm iffy on demon Yusuke too.

 

[caliph95]

 

[Hellwarden]

...What was the point of the Soul Society again?

 

[Regiruler]

What is this from?

 

[JadedWriter]

Yes...Sensui was gay. I might not have liked it years ago, but I think I appreciate this more now that I'm older and more mature.

 

[caliph95]

...What was the point of the Soul Society again?

In Bleach to kill hollows, keep balance and protect afterlife and king

Or for Kubo to bloat the cast

 

[HStallion]

Togashi in general seems pretty cool with gay and trans people in his works. It is kind of surprising I guess considering how some of his contemporaries handle such subjects.

 

[caliph95]

X-com Enemy Within/Unknown

*Shoots at an Alien hulk point blank misses every shot*

FFS how are these guys the best earth has to offer, earth deserves the invasion

 

[JadedWriter]

Togashi in general seems pretty cool with gay and trans people in his works. It is kind of surprising I guess considering how some of his contemporaries handle such subjects.

They're actually pretty good and nuanced characters. Sensui is still probably one of the best mirror the protagonist characters. I consider him a much better executed version of a particular Naruto villain.

X-com Enemy Within/Unknown

*Shoots at an Alien hulk point blank misses every shot*

FFS how are these guys the best earth has to offer, earth deserves the invasion

With rookies you have to pray to RNGesus.

 

[Morlas]

Oda i think is fine with trans and gay people, but with the way he tends to write his characters over the top and ridiculous it seems off-putting and stereotypical...at least that's my theory

 

[Man God]

Sensui's motivation is what bugs me. It's kinda like a slightly better version of the Tokyo Ghoul dilemma. His big hangup is that some people did some bad things to demons...Demons who eat/rape/torture humans without a second thought.

 

[Chase17]

Sensui's motivation is what bugs me. It's kinda like a slightly better version of the Tokyo Ghoul dilemma. His big hangup is that some people did some bad things to demons...Demons who eat/rape/torture humans without a second thought.

The demons were bad since they were brainwashed by King Enma so he could maintain his political stature.

It was a set up! Or something.

 

[JadedWriter]

Sensui's motivation is what bugs me. It's kinda like a slightly better version of the Tokyo Ghoul dilemma. His big hangup is that some people did some bad things to demons...Demons who eat/rape/torture humans without a second thought.

The true depth behind Sensui is in the details. His black and white morality system couldn't handle that humans are capable of evil deeds as cruel if not crueler than the demons he was responsible for hunting. It's something that Yusuke didn't have a problem with and he had room in his mind for more shades of gray. This is something that eventually comes to play in Hunter x Hunter.

 

[caliph95]

The demons were bad since they were brainwashed by King Enma so he could maintain his political stature.

It was a set up! Or something.

Only in the Manga

 

[SigmasonicX]

Only in the Manga

To be clear for those who haven't read it, this is something that's just expo-dumped in the last chapter, not something they actually explore.

 

[cntr]

Oda treats the "okama" characters pretty okay, and they're pretty fun, but they're massive stereotypes. If One Piece was written by a modern author, it would get a lot of deserved shit for it.

Togashi and Horikoshi are the only Jump authors I'd trust to write gay and trans characters with anything like good taste. Otherwise, as usual, you need to go into seinen stuff to find the well-written LGBT stuff.

 

[Morlas]

Oda treats the "okama" characters pretty okay, and they're pretty fun, but they're massive stereotypes. If One Piece was written by a modern author, it would get a lot of deserved shit for it.

Togashi and Horikoshi are the only Jump authors I'd trust to write gay and trans characters with anything like good taste. Otherwise, as usual, you need to go into seinen stuff to find the well-written LGBT stuff.

The way Oda writes them is pretty stereotypical, but honestly with all the weird shit that's in the series they don't actually stand out that much compared to some others

 

[Sibersk Esto]

The Okama in One Piece owes more to drag queen culture than homosexuality/transvestism, due to the relative asexuality of the series.

 

[caliph95]

They were gay as well though and the only ones

 

[Man God]

The Okama in One Piece owes more to drag queen culture than homosexuality/transvestism, due to the relative asexuality of the series.

Correct.

 

[caliph95]

To be clear for those who haven't read it, this is something that's just expo-dumped in the last chapter, not something they actually explore.

Which maybe explored in the Manga but has been shown for the most part they are dicks And hate humans

 

[cntr]

The word "okama" in Japanese is...a very questionable term. Not a word you'd actually want to use in real life, not nowadays. But it does unambiguously refer to gay and transvestite people, not drag queens.

In context, the okama in One Piece are Oda conflating drag queens, transvestites, and gay people, because that's a thing people used to do. It's not wholly negative since they're treated positively, but it's the kind of thing that's really dated today, even by Japanese standards.

I'll cut Oda some slack since he's old and probably means well, but it's still worth raising an eyebrow over.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

What is this from?

Gintama

 

[cntr]

i'll use this to measure your power level

 

[JadedWriter]

i'll use this to measure your power level

*Dude forgets to put his grasses on* "weak as fuck."

 

[Chase17]

How is the Sensui has split personalities part received?

 

[JadedWriter]

"Change it to 7,930 penises."
"Hey, how many boobs am I?"
I need to start watching Gintama.

 

[Regiruler]

Gintama

That makes sense, I've heard Gintama references a ton of things.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

How is the Sensui has split personalities part received?

I found it wholly unnecessary and just a roundabout way of saying "he was hiding his TRUE power!!!"

 

[Mizerman]

i'll use this to measure your power level

Oh Gintama....

 

[JadedWriter]

I found it wholly unnecessary and just a roundabout way of saying "he was hiding his TRUE power!!!"

He used those multiple personalities to process his existence. I don't always see character development as Shonen bullshit.

 

[cntr]

Gintama has episodes of recycled animation and still screens, while the characters complain about the animation and how the episode only exists because the series has no budget.

It's the best.

 

[Morlas]

it would've been better if we saw more than 3 of his personalities for an extended period

 

[JadedWriter]

it would've been better if we saw more than 3 of his personalities for an extended period

I wouldn't have minded seeing the implied personality where he's a woman. Sensui actually has some pretty good depth. It's just bogged down in a lot of weirdness and not having time to flesh all of it out.

 

[caliph95]

We do see them debate each other in their head right

 

[JadedWriter]

I haven't seen Chapter Black in years, but I think we get an internal shout fest or something.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

That makes sense, I've heard Gintama references a ton of things.

Legit the funniest episode in my opinion is when the main character, Gintoki, decides to become a manga consultant and ends up going meta on the Shonen Formula.

 

[JadedWriter]

Legit the funniest episode in my opinion is when the main character, Gintoki, decides to become a manga consultant and ends up going meta on the Shonen Formula.

Does he write his own version of HxH and start bitching about putting it on hiatus?

But Araki is immortal.

Spoiler

Probably wrote that joke during part 5