On that note, you may want to stop putting more points in to Glaive Throw. The damage per point goes up rather slow while the mana cost increases stupidly fast. 5/15 is about where it's perfect for spamming (for Focus heavy builds) so more than that will really eat into your Mana.
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On that note, you may want to stop putting more points in to Glaive Throw. The damage per point goes up rather slow while the mana cost increases stupidly fast. 5/15 is about where it's perfect for spamming (for Focus heavy builds) so more than that will really eat into your Mana.
UncleSporky
Member
Agreed, Glaive Throw needs to stay at 5 points. Enough to destroy groups while staying at sane mana levels.
To be fair, some of my logic is for DEX at large rather than for an Outlander specifically, hence the lack of concern for stat requirements when thinking about the stopping points of 53/113. Even then, DEX is a good defensive stat itself so X/1/X/1 splits make a lot of sense for many characters. Honestly, for any non-Shield character, I may just not bother with VIT past +10% Armor/Resists, if even that far, and do 3 Damage stat, 2 DEX. 4/1 gets you to around 113 DEX by 99, 3/2 will be around 200.
Dunno yet. Need to spend more time number crunching things. I really want my 2H Engineer to work out for Elite.
On that note, I should probably look into how I want to build my Wand (...maybe Staff?!) Berserker. No STR on a Berserker feels weird.
I can easily tweak my caster Berserker to a Wand/Shield setup. I might do that, just to finally have a character to use all the damn Shields I keep getting. Though, I assume HC has a separate stash so it's more hoping that my Shield luck continues.
And you're probably right for non-Shield build viability for (Elite) HC. High DEX, high VIT builds with a focus on strong scaling skills rather than STR/Focus for damage (and/or itemize for STR/Focus). Though, "high" VIT might be unnecessary due to the low Block cap (50%) with how common and high Block Chance% items are.
My weapon.Very good imho.
I still haven't found a mysterious 2 hander.
UncleSporky
Member
Stupid question: does block from vit apply if you don't have a shield? Probably not, right? Heck it probably even says so in the tooltip but I'm at work.
I hope they add some items that do odd things you might not expect, like unique gloves that provide a small % of shield block, that sort of thing. That's what made Diablo 2 fun for me, those sought-after items that stood out in the sea of +5 mana, +1 light radius.
I hope they add some items that do odd things you might not expect, like unique gloves that provide a small % of shield block, that sort of thing. That's what made Diablo 2 fun for me, those sought-after items that stood out in the sea of +5 mana, +1 light radius.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I don't see the appeal in rerolling a new character. Fight the same battles in the same places with the same loot available to you? No thanks, I'd rather continue on. If I'm going to go through the same stuff again, it'll be NG+ so there is new loot, and eventually random dungeons and bought maps.
But even with that, your idea doesn't make too much sense to the reasons people are giving for respec. I don't think we're talking about flipping back and forth between play styles at the drop of a hat. I think it's more about making sure that your ignorance doesn't prevent a build from working. So if you have a cannon and a 2H engineer, you will only have one cannon and one 2H engineer, not one or two failures until you learn how to do it correctly.
Straight up. I'm into playing games, not doing chores.
UncleSporky
Member
I see on the Torchlight 2 armory site that the
wooden sword has a 15% chance to block! The only non-shield item in the game with this ability that they list (unless it's available on prefix/suffixes). That's really interesting to me. I wonder if it's affected by vit or anything else, probably not.
EDIT: What in hell is this? I have got to spawn one of these.
Minecraft reference
EDIT: What in hell is this? I have got to spawn one of these.
Csokis
Member
HappyPuppy
Member
I'm really enjoying this game in single player, they have made changes I really appreciate compared to Torchlight 1. The amount of skills you can learn, more interesting classes, the charge bar, the tier in skills, dogs as pets .
Surprisingly I didn't enjoy the multiplayer that much. Had trouble knowing what was happening with 3 players and what my character could do (dmg, utilty etc) was lost or at least hard to notice.
Hope this game can keep my interest all the way through and gives me the desire to make more characters, looking for a game that can hold my interest, Gw2 didn't .
.Surprisingly I didn't enjoy the multiplayer that much. Had trouble knowing what was happening with 3 players and what my character could do (dmg, utilty etc) was lost or at least hard to notice.
Hope this game can keep my interest all the way through and gives me the desire to make more characters, looking for a game that can hold my interest, Gw2 didn't
.jim-jam bongs
Member
in most games I'd agree, however the leveling curve in tl2 is really forgiving and extremely fast, and all of the environments, mobs and loot are randomised to the point where you essentially never see the same thing twice. I've played act 1 around four times in the past week and it's been significantly different every time.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
What should I invest in as a Beserker for crowd control? I have most of my points right now invested in Blood Hunger, Shadow Burst, Wolf Shade, and Shred Armor. Then I have a few points in Storm Claw, Executioner, Rampage, Rage Retaliation, Frenzy Mastery and Red Wolf. The only times I can get decent crowd control is summoning my Wolf Shade and using Storm Claw while attacking enemies on the sides of the mobs, or going wild when I have a full charge built.
Hmm, I think I turned my engie to a hit and run/kite build.
I'm Fire Bashing all my enemies and kite them all till they're dead while keeping my forcefield up.
I think my ferret and his summon monsters does more damage than my sword/shield
Works quite well on veteran though, just beat
without taking a potion, just forcefield and healing bot.
I'm Fire Bashing all my enemies and kite them all till they're dead while keeping my forcefield up.
I think my ferret and his summon monsters does more damage than my sword/shield
Works quite well on veteran though, just beat
the dark alchemist
Maybe after 10+ years TL2 will also add in full respecs.
Yea dude D2 didn't have respecs for the longest time.
When did you start playing d2?
Last Baron
Member
I like to gamble.
robotzombie
Member
Anyone get any Machine Forged set pieces yet? I just got the armor from gambling and oh man do I need to finish this set...
If anyone has any spare parts of it they dont need, please, dont be afraid to let me know
If anyone has any spare parts of it they dont need, please, dont be afraid to let me know
Talking of loot from the gambler, oh god I just got this on my lvl 26 or 27 sword & board engineer.
Such a massive upgrade from my old claw, not only in DPS but a 10 sec silence and a chance to fully heal when hit is crazy. It should be at over 250 dps if I can get a good enchant on it too.
Such a massive upgrade from my old claw, not only in DPS but a 10 sec silence and a chance to fully heal when hit is crazy. It should be at over 250 dps if I can get a good enchant on it too.
They don't really have a Crowd Control but they have an amazing escape in Shadow Burst. Battle Rage, however, is an amazing tanking skill and Battle Standard's Dodge and Knockback Resist is great as well. At best for CC, Permafrost will give a Freeze and Immobilize so there's that, I guess.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Gotcha. Mobs had been what was ruining my experience with them at first. I'd be doing fine, only to have a big mob corner me somewhere that I had trouble Bursting out of or just overwhelm me with numbers to the point where I couldn't keep Bursting away from them for safety. Most of the time I'd end up kiting them off little by little. When I started investing in Shred Armor it helped a lot for my survivability, but it can still takes me a good amount of time to down large mobs if I don't toss out Wolf Shade.
I've decided to change my priorities a bit with my Engineer. Instead of wasting a bunch of points on Overload (spent 1 already), Coup de Grade (spent 3), or any other skills that will only help with trash mobs, I've decided to focus purely on boss killing and survivability.
I will focus on weapons similar to my current weapon. Fast weapons will benefit the most from Sword & Board, and what's great is that Supercharge does an AoE cleave, so the downsides to claws are mostly nonexistant.
So, my ideal build...
Active skills:
15/15 Shield Bash
15/15 Ember Reach (for damage taken debuff)
15/15 Healing Bot
15/15 Forcefield
Passive skills:
15/15 Supercharge
15/15 Bulwark
15/15 Sword & Board
15/15 Aegis of Fate
15/15 Charge Reconstitution
That leaves 15 points left over. I've already wasted some (1 Ember Hammer, 3 Coup de Grace, 1 Overload). Not sure what I'll do with the rest...a few utility skills like Onslaught or Storm Burst couldn't hurt.
Actually I have just enough points to go 10/15 Tremor. That's probably worth it more than anything.
Or I could restart my character to gain back those 5 points. ;_;
I will focus on weapons similar to my current weapon. Fast weapons will benefit the most from Sword & Board, and what's great is that Supercharge does an AoE cleave, so the downsides to claws are mostly nonexistant.
So, my ideal build...
Active skills:
15/15 Shield Bash
15/15 Ember Reach (for damage taken debuff)
15/15 Healing Bot
15/15 Forcefield
Passive skills:
15/15 Supercharge
15/15 Bulwark
15/15 Sword & Board
15/15 Aegis of Fate
15/15 Charge Reconstitution
That leaves 15 points left over. I've already wasted some (1 Ember Hammer, 3 Coup de Grace, 1 Overload). Not sure what I'll do with the rest...a few utility skills like Onslaught or Storm Burst couldn't hurt.
Actually I have just enough points to go 10/15 Tremor. That's probably worth it more than anything.
Or I could restart my character to gain back those 5 points. ;_;
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
The Fame level cap has been discovered to be 33, not 50. You only get 132 or 133 skills points to work with. (I'm not sure if you start at Fame level 0 or 1.)
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
So you are saying you cant even max out a single tree? :lol
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
That's why it's not a tree.
Damnit...
Ingueferroque
Banned
Shit, am I fucked?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
If you are just gonna toss I'll gladly take on my engineer
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Well that more than makes up for the Engie I lost on hardcore x.x/
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What say you, GAF? Will I survive NG+++?
Engineer 2/110/20
If I'm not mistaken, boosting Focus should boost my main attacks, since they are fire-based. I'm also focusing on getting equipment that boosts minion damage (the reason for heavy STR) and the Storm Burst is purely to help escape situations like enemies that drop right down onto you. Coupe de Grace does work with your cannon, right? Otherwise I may put that into Charge Reconstruction.
Engineer 2/110/20
If I'm not mistaken, boosting Focus should boost my main attacks, since they are fire-based. I'm also focusing on getting equipment that boosts minion damage (the reason for heavy STR) and the Storm Burst is purely to help escape situations like enemies that drop right down onto you. Coupe de Grace does work with your cannon, right? Otherwise I may put that into Charge Reconstruction.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Late Claimers Remorse
;__;
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Found the answer to my own question.
My build plan: Engineer 1/110/21
Oh, I should also mention that my pet has 3 minion spells and a heal all, and often uses them. The minions seem to be just as strong as she is so I think they share the bonuses for "my" minions. This helps me not rely on robots too much, although if they are both on cooldown, spider mines are pretty awesome.
Charge Reconstruction it is!
My build plan: Engineer 1/110/21
Oh, I should also mention that my pet has 3 minion spells and a heal all, and often uses them. The minions seem to be just as strong as she is so I think they share the bonuses for "my" minions. This helps me not rely on robots too much, although if they are both on cooldown, spider mines are pretty awesome.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
Just found some unique shoulders that gives me +1380 Health. I guess that's one way to ease my current squishiness. It's part of a set, but the set bonuses suck, at least for a mage. It also has tentacles on it.
EDIT: And now I've found some unique gloves (different set) that give me +1068 Health. I've increased my health by ~60% in under 30 minutes.
EDIT: And now I've found some unique gloves (different set) that give me +1068 Health. I've increased my health by ~60% in under 30 minutes.
How many points did you put into it and what difficulty? I was wondering if I should invest in this or not.
almostheathen
Member
Yay finally found a prismatic resist gem for my hc character now i need to find more ;D.
Technosteve
Banned
combat feel super sluggish, is that because casting time is part of the equation? Playing zerker and having skills on the hot bar is slower then tab and right click
I'm saying this having done this on an outlander on veteran.