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Torment: Tides of Numenera |OT| What Can Change The Nature of a Man?
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Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Boost mode helped in other Unity games, but it won't clear up any glitches.
It has some bloat but imho it's simply better written than Pillars. Also, it helps that Torment is ~ 25 hours while Pillars is twice that so there is less reading fatigue
Chance Hale
Member
How do I get back to Sanctuary without
Edit: labyrinth not sanctuary lol
dying
Edit: labyrinth not sanctuary lol
Billy_Pilgrim
Member
The day one patch has zero effect on performance problems.
Tbh it's just all round a bad port. The UI isn't really built for a pad, exploring and talking or checking or picking things up is cumbersome and slow, there's a couple of seconds delay to every action taken.
It's a good thing people are playing this for the text.
Tbh it's just all round a bad port. The UI isn't really built for a pad, exploring and talking or checking or picking things up is cumbersome and slow, there's a couple of seconds delay to every action taken.
It's a good thing people are playing this for the text.
mindatlarge
Member
From what I have read on the official forums for the game, the day one patch for consoles does not fix a lot of the performance issues. Sounds like the best solution is to go with the PC version, if you can, or wait it out for a proper performance patch to be released for consoles.
His Majesty
Banned
I assume Techland wanted a multi-platform release as it was not an original goal of the Kickstarter campaign.
While I'm ofcourse playing this on a PC myself. It's a real bummer that console versions seem to have so much problems, not a good look really. Unfortunate if that turns people off from these. I would love for games like this to get wider audience and more recognition beyond PC space.
boybrushdRED
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I can't find info if the retail disc redeems on Steam or GOG so I went to our local store to find out myself. It comes with the Steam version. It is cheaper on our local store than the base game on Steam, and this one has a soundtrack CD, printed map, and some digital traveller's guide and an in-game item.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
I got it installed but I haven't finished PS:T yet. Will try run through that soon enough.
OriginalJonty
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If you're in Sagus Cliffs go to the Caravansary and talk to the hotel owner.
Moff
Member
It's really a sad joke that the retail version is cheaper and comes with more content than the physical backer version.
Gormenghast
Member
I'm reading it's less than half the length of the original Torment. That's not very good news, if true.
The Last Wizard
Member
Cause I possibly fall into their audience but I don't play on pc, there also being the possibility of many others like me.
It was Kickstarted as a PC exclusive, but it's very unlikely that the port was mandated on InXile - Considering TechLand is probably more in charge of distribution and such rather than a traditional publisher role. InXile also ported WL2 to consoles of their own volition.
For people like me that wanted Planescape Torment on consoles back in the late 90s but couldn't have that. Though I still got it on PC in one of those discount packages.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
WHO SAID THAT?!
This means my friend's brother who played through Divinity: Original Sin on PS4 doesn't exist either, and that's a plus as he can be very irritating at times.
EdwardTivrusky
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Lister
Banned
Glad to see the great review scores rolling in! Can't wait for tonight. Was going to wait to finish White MArch first, but I think I'll alternate between the two (well three, Total War just release Brettonia too!) games until I'm done with White March, which shoudl be soon.
Sucks for console gamers, once again, it looks liek a later port would have been a much smarter idea for InExile.
To be fair to the poster above, I also certainly don't think there's a significant audience for CRPG's on consoles (just take a look at the comments sections on preview coverage from mainstream sites - nothign but console gamers making fun of the game), but here's the key part - YET.
Just like with Japanese games on PC, a lot of people said the audience wasn't there - and maybe it wasn't, but that was never going to change until more Japanese games starting coming out on PC. Today we have PC making up more than half of the sales of some Japanese games (like Dark Souls).
Widening your audience is almost always good for both the developer and the consumer. It's just that this is not the way to do it.
Hopefully they fix it, and it gets more people into western style CRPG's, which is likely to get some of them into PC gaming (where the genre is chock full of titles), hopefully it'll get people to start asking for more narrative agency in other RPG's (instead of the on rails stuff 99% of AAA Action RPG's feature), , hopefully it will mena bigger budgets and better games, etc, etc. All good outcomes, IMHO.
Sucks for console gamers, once again, it looks liek a later port would have been a much smarter idea for InExile.
To be fair to the poster above, I also certainly don't think there's a significant audience for CRPG's on consoles (just take a look at the comments sections on preview coverage from mainstream sites - nothign but console gamers making fun of the game), but here's the key part - YET.
Just like with Japanese games on PC, a lot of people said the audience wasn't there - and maybe it wasn't, but that was never going to change until more Japanese games starting coming out on PC. Today we have PC making up more than half of the sales of some Japanese games (like Dark Souls).
Widening your audience is almost always good for both the developer and the consumer. It's just that this is not the way to do it.
Hopefully they fix it, and it gets more people into western style CRPG's, which is likely to get some of them into PC gaming (where the genre is chock full of titles), hopefully it'll get people to start asking for more narrative agency in other RPG's (instead of the on rails stuff 99% of AAA Action RPG's feature), , hopefully it will mena bigger budgets and better games, etc, etc. All good outcomes, IMHO.
This must be one of the sleekest and good looking UI I've ever seen in a CRPG. Reading in CRPG usually a mixed experience between fascination and dull at the same time. With the improved and sleek UI however, staring at the screen occupies you more than just reading the shown text.
Chance Hale
Member
I just left the starting hub at 11 and a half hours and ended up in an area that wasn't announced as the second one so it seems like it won't be oddly short.
Been lazy and playing with a controller in bed and have found the interface pretty usable although one of the people in the Order of Truth breaks with the controller and forces a restart on pc lol
Canceled my PS4 pre-order and installing now on Steam Sounds like they really pulled it off based on the reviews. Planescape: Torment is one of my favourite RPG's ever so I'm trying to temper my expectations but impressions seem pretty strong, barring the technical issues on console.
Looking forward to your long dissertation on if this holds up, Durante
Sounds like they really pulled it off based on the reviews. Planescape: Torment is one of my favourite RPG's ever so I'm trying to temper my expectations but impressions seem pretty strong, barring the technical issues on console. Looking forward to your long dissertation on if this holds up, Durante
Just finish Planescape first.
Agreed. There's bound to be references, themes, etc. mentioned in the new one that you'll appreciate by finishing PS:T.
Funyarinpa
Member
Was raring to get home and start playing. As it turns out, Steam didn't even initiate the download... It downloads now. Sigh.
I guess I'll end up doing that lab report...
Gormenghast
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Reports say the game overall takes from 25 to 40 hours depending how much you linger and do sidetracks. Old Torment under similar premises took from 35 to 60 hours and the main quest of the new one seems half as long, if you don't do the rest.
The problem is this doesn't make ANY sense. They claimed the new Torment is above 1 million worlds. If you sat on a couch with just a book it would take around 100 hours to read that much. And that's time spent reading, not looking at inventory, loading areas or walking around and exploring.
The new Torment is supposed to be 1/4 longer in text than old Torment, yet is substantially shorter? It just doesn't make any sense unless a lot of that was cut for the final release.
Is it meant for replayability? Like you just can't encounter a good portion of the text on any given playthrough? I haven't really followed development much.
I would assume the dialogue trees, and most of your time will be spent reading, are wider in Numenera but shorter in height than in Planescape. Meaning, more variation, but an individual play-through is shorter.
Gormenghast
Member
Yes, if you played a 1 million words game and read everything it would take you more than 200 hours.
I'm simply saying that the new Torment is supposed to be significantly longer than old one, in amount of content, but reports says it's quite a bit shorter in play time. And none of the reviews suggest it offer more branching paths, actually a few of them say stuff like companions feel less developed compared to the old games.
So where has all this content gone if the new game is actually SHORTER?
AWizardDidIt
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60 hours for Planescape Torment? No... that seems a tad on the long side for that game. Going back to it recently I was surprised how short the game actually was and I beat it in 25 hours while being pretty meticulous with side quests and reading everything, though this is as someone who has replayed the game half a dozen times. I'd say the 30-40 hour mark is pretty spot on as being of equal length and I assume the difference in script is that this new one actually has a bit more depth in its individual dialogue branches.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Shit those reviews are really good
The reviews were not kidding where they said the start could be a bit slow. I played an hour and while there was some interesting parts but my first impression is not that good. I struggled a bit to keep my interest going almost right away mostly due to the way the world is introduced. There needs to be some hook to catch the players interest at least and a complete blank state doesn't do it for me. Not sure how you can get around this with an amnesia character but "tell me about city/world/faction/what's going on/this area" is the worst part about text heavy RPGs and Torment seems to be taking it to a new level.
I also found the way they handle stat checks annoying. Honestly stat checks in dialogue is great when done right but I don't like how they turned it into a mini-game. On top of that the lesser stat checks also need to be fairly simple in my opinion. There shouldn't be much of a need for 3-4 lines of dialogue and a mini-game just to open up something that leads to a simple lootbox with a potion or something in it.
Just clicking on it and checking if you do/don't have the needed thing to operate the machine or unlock it would be much better at times. Save the actual explanations/dilogue thing for things that matter/the story, not random loot.
I also found the way they handle stat checks annoying. Honestly stat checks in dialogue is great when done right but I don't like how they turned it into a mini-game. On top of that the lesser stat checks also need to be fairly simple in my opinion. There shouldn't be much of a need for 3-4 lines of dialogue and a mini-game just to open up something that leads to a simple lootbox with a potion or something in it.
Just clicking on it and checking if you do/don't have the needed thing to operate the machine or unlock it would be much better at times. Save the actual explanations/dilogue thing for things that matter/the story, not random loot.
eh. Reviewers generally review the hype, not the product. And most wouldn't know quality writing if it slapped them in the face. Need to play it to believe it.
Backers didn't fund a console port. so, no, you're not the primary audience.
(I love WRPGs on consoles. But i have yet to see a responsible explanation for the console ports with simultaneous release)
AWizardDidIt
Member
butman
Member
Canceled my PS4 pre-order and installing now on Steam
Looking forward to your long dissertation on if this holds up, Durante
Any problems with PS4 version? Is not as good as Divinity Original Sin port?
That too. Though it's different when you're clearly on a shoestring, hard defined budget.
feature creep + limited funds is a DEADLY combination, and crowdfunding encourages it. practically demands it.
AWizardDidIt
Member
I'd recommend everyone here who is familiar with OG Torment to read the Rock Paper Shotgun "review" of the game. The author clearly has a deep love for the original and his review really touches on the relationship with this new game and the old. Points out some criticisms while also heaping on quite a lot of praise. Made me much more excited to play it tonight.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I'm still waiting for this to appear on PSN.
I haven't played the port personally, but multiple reviews have mentioned technical issues with the console versions. I also played Divinity on PC so I can't speak to the PS4 version.
His Majesty
Banned
My Steam download is stuck at 99%...sigh.
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